The Truth About Islam

[staffsgt7]

On the 65th Anniversary of the Liberation of Auschwitz, Liberate the Truth About the Auschwitz Blueprints

This is part 1, they say that part 2 will be available tomorrow.

Here is a quote as to why I am bringing this up especially after my post showing what Muslims are ok with in their sharia laws after I was told that there is no reason to change them.

The major role of Islam has been whitewashed from history. Why? Why have the Germans and the West excused Islam from its horrible hand in the holocaust? There is a major cover-up going on in the 2008 discovery of the Auschwitz blueprints. Six million Jewish dead want to know.

But the nazi ideology was decimated. And yet the Nazi partner, Islam, walks away without a scratch?? How is that possible? And sickeningly worse, the Muslims get a judenrein Europe after all.

It’s not as if Islam apologized for its role in mass Jewish genocide. Just the opposite: they scream and screech and teach and payroll and plan for the annihilation of the Jews (without the Nazis this time).

Have they apologized for the genocide of the Armenians, or the Africans, or anyone? Have they apologized to anyone for the slavery that still exists in Islam? (Sharia laws are ok with those too and there is no effort by the ones who claim that Islam is peaceful to change these laws.) Considering that antisemitism is still alive and well in Islam. They brought it to Sweden, and even to our own college campuses thanks to the Muslim Brotherhood’s front group the Muslim STudent Association.

Jews are fleeing Sweden now.

University of Chicago, Hitler Lovefest at Muslim Protest against Jews

Muslim Groups Shut Down Free Speech at Ivy Leagues

Stop Incitement to Jewish Genocide at UC Irvine: Advertisement for Jew Hatred

 

[friendship]

That is good to know because then all those Muslims who say that the violent Jihadists are the ones who are misunderstanding Islam are outright lying. (o9) Those violent Jihadists are just following Sharia laws. Jihad is to be waged by all believers and it can be done by the tongue, with their wealth and violence is always an option.

No, you are lying. We haven’t such things in our shariah.

There are no freedoms to others of other religions under Sharia laws.

another lie.

Woman can be stoned if she doesn’t have 4 witnesses to a cruel and unmanly crime of rape.

In islam, one if non-sin except it confirm that he/she did a sin. Woman doesn’t need to call 4 witnesses to confirm that she is chaste and your sentence is false.

Homosexuals are to be killed.

It is God’s order. In bible God ordered to kill them if they have do lavat(sex between two men) or mosaheghah(sex between two women) too. Our lifes are for God, and God can is the get back it from us.

Apostates are to be killed.

No, this is false. I have two friends in Iran whitch are athesis and they even didn’t catch by police. Islam never ordered to kill apostates cause they convert to another beliefs from Islam.

Adulterers can be stoned, but all a man has to do is say ‘I divorce you’ three times.

What?

Honor killings are ok if the man deems the woman has dishonored her family.

No, If a man kills a woman, he must be killed. Without death warrant must be from conrary and auto da fe must must done by conrary’s members.

Martyrdom, or what we call suicide bombers/killers, are considered the most holy in Islam and will get on a fast path to your heaven.

Another lie. Islam didn’t ordered us to do that and just radical muslims do such things.

Criticism of any aspect of Islam is considered a high crime of treason, even for those who are not believers, and can result in a death sentence. (how often have we heard that this is not true? Well, Sharia laws says it is ok, e12.8.)
this last one is very interesting and explains why the Muslims always bully and threaten, and sometimes sue and even resort to killing (in the case of Theo Van Gogh to give one example) those who tell the truth about Islam.

Islam invites non-muslims to have debates with them and never orther to kill them.

 

[friendship]

Staf you must confirm that these things are Islam’s orders. What Muslims do is not Islam.

 

[staffsgt7]

Staf you must confirm that these things are Islam’s orders. What Muslims do is not Islam.

I already confirmed them, I showed what law they are by referencing them such as o9, etc.

friendship, I got the book of Sharia laws I know what they say. They are not online for me to give a link. I do not lie. There is no reason for me to lie. In Islam there is a reason to lie, Mohammed gave the orders to deceive others and to advance Islam in any manner, with violence always an option. The description of Jihad starts on page 599, o9.

Jihad
O: Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada, signifying warfare to establish the religion. And it is the lesser jihad. As for he greater jihad, it is spiritual warfare against the lower self (nafs), which is why the Prophet said as he was returning from jihad,

“We have returned form the lesser jihad to the greater jihad.” (My comment: probably had to enjoy his loot and slaves)

The scriptual basis for jihad, prior to scholarly consensus is such Koranic verses as

(1) Fighting is prescribed for you" 2:216
(2) “Slay them wherever you find them.” 4:89

…and it goes on with another verse from the koran and also from the Hadith. It describes more to the Muslims to look at Mohammed’s wars that he personally attended, some 27 of them.

Basically you can deny it all you want but your denials are meaningless. If you have so many problems with what the Koran, Hadith and Sharia laws this is why I ask why there are no Muslims working to change them? Are you afraid? It does say that Muslims are not supposed to question. They can be killed for questioning these laws. They are not to give personal interpretation to the Koran either.

And as for ‘Islams orders’ maybe you need the definition of a law. It is a binding custom or ruling that is enforced and controlled by authorities. If you follow the law you are ok, if you do not then you have to pay some consequences, if caught.

 

[staffsgt7]

Sharia laws describes who gets zakat, or Muslim charity. It is h8. I have already posted this but I will post it again. page 272, h8.17 We read with this law that Muslims are supporting those Jihadists I described in my previous post.

The seventh category (of recipients of zakat) is those fighting for Allah, meaning people engaged in Islamic military operations for whom no salary has been allotted in the army roster (O: but who are volunteers for jihad without remuneration). They are given enough to suffice them for the operation, even if affluent; off weapons, mounts, clothing, and expenses (…… the expense involved in supporting such people’s families during this period, it seems clear that they should also be given it).

Sharia law: h8.24 It is not permissible to give zakat to a non-Muslim, or to whom one is oblibed to support such as a wife or family member.

 

[KathleenGee]

Friendship,

I saw a program on ‘Nadia’, think that is correct spelling…it is about the young woman who was shot down this last summer in Tehran. It was a documentary about her life.

How would you compare your faith with hers…if you know which woman I am speaking about. The program made me cry; in part, she looks like my younger daughter.

If you know which woman I mean – we all saw her dying on Youtube – is your faith like hers?

There was another girl…Doula…age 17 in Iraq. They filmed her being stoned to death. She looked like my older daughter, I saw her being led out of her house and she was frail. I saw her stoned to death. It also made me deeply cry. They threw her body out somewhere…She was a virgin.

I signed the international petition to stop honor killing. It is very hard for me not to have a deep hate for those men who do those things…most women are innocent.

 

[staffsgt7]

There is no such thing as radical Muslims. There are no such thing as extremist Muslims. They are termed Jihadists in Islam. They are described in my previous post and are very much a normal Muslim.

I know that you are playing word games that many in the West started because they wanted to rationalize why or how could a religion do such a thing as kill others and think it is a good thing. It isn’t only considered good in Islam but it gets them to their heaven faster. They don’t have to sit in hell waiting for Allah to get them out. There is no guarantee that Allah will get them out.

And this is where I don’t understand why anyone would trust that God called Allah. He was a deceiver. Maybe what he told you guys is all a lie. Mohammed contradicted himself all the time in the Koran, except for getting his way concerning his sexual perversions.

 

[staffsgt7]

Friendship,

I saw a program on ‘Nadia’, think that is correct spelling…it is about the young woman who was shot down this last summer in Tehran. It was a documentary about her life.

How would you compare your faith with hers…if you know which woman I am speaking about. The program made me cry; in part, she looks like my younger daughter.

If you know which woman I mean – we all saw her dying on Youtube – is your faith like hers?

There was another girl…Doula…age 17 in Iraq. They filmed her being stoned to death. She looked like my older daughter, I saw her being led out of her house and she was frail. I saw her stoned to death. It also made me deeply cry. They threw her body out somewhere…She was a virgin.

I signed the international petition to stop honor killing. It is very hard for me not to have a deep hate for those men who do those things…most women are innocent.

You know even if they were not innocent, that doesn’t mean that they should be tortured and killed. They are not even given trials, it is basically up to some knothead to determine that the girls committed a crime and they have the freedom to commit acts of murder. In some cases, it is a community event! We have picnics and they have a stoning.

Tell me there isn’t something wrong with this picture!

The world is not serious about doing anytning to change Islam. They cower. And not one of their laws are changing. There is no movement to change them and we read from people like friendship that there is nothing wrong with those laws.

 

[dzheremi]

Sargent, Re: post #453: Please do not forget when you mention the Armenian massacre at the hands of the Muslims that also roughly half of the Assyrians who existed in the Ottoman Empire at that time were also murdered in the genocides that killed many thousands of Greek Orthodox Christians, as well. Of course we’re supposed to think that this is all just a coincidence and that no genocide was attempted, as the Turks and their lackeys like the Kurds (who were also helpers for the “Iraqi” Arabs in the 1933 massacres of the Assyrians, too) refuse to recognize the “Seyfo”, the Assyrian term for this calamity that nearly wiped the Assyrians off the face of the earth.

For some reason this topic is not quite as well-known as the Armenian genocide (or so it seems to me, although most books worth reading on the period will also discuss it even if they’re focused on the Armenians primarily). I had to look to Assyrian sources like the books of Fred Aprim and others to find out more. Here is a timeline of the Seyfo, if you want to learn more.

I swear, if anyone is dedicated to the fight against Islamic oppression/for human freedom, they will eventually become an Assyrian/Syriac nationalist. The Syriac Christians have fought the Muslims longer than anyone.

 

[staffsgt7]

Sargent, Re: post #453: Please do not forget when you mention the Armenian massacre at the hands of the Muslims that also roughly half of the Assyrians who existed in the Ottoman Empire at that time were also murdered in the genocides that killed many thousands of Greek Orthodox Christians, as well. Of course we’re supposed to think that this is all just a coincidence and that no genocide was attempted, as the Turks and their lackeys like the Kurds (who were also helpers for the “Iraqi” Arabs in the 1933 massacres of the Assyrians, too) refuse to recognize the “Seyfo”, the Assyrian term for this calamity that nearly wiped the Assyrians off the face of the earth.

For some reason this topic is not quite as well-known as the Armenian genocide (or so it seems to me, although most books worth reading on the period will also discuss it even if they’re focused on the Armenians primarily). I had to look to Assyrian sources like the books of Fred Aprim and others to find out more. Here is a timeline of the Seyfo, if you want to learn more.

I swear, if anyone is dedicated to the fight against Islamic oppression/for human freedom, they will eventually become an Assyrian/Syriac nationalist. The Syriac Christians have fought the Muslims longer than anyone.

Thanks for the info.

I just watched a special that Glen Beck had on last Friday that I taped and saved.

This didn’t have to do with Muslims but instead it was what Stalin did to the Ukrainians. He had them starved so bad that instead of dying by starvation they were dying of being eaten or starving. Over 7 million died in the Ukraine more than the number that died in the holocaust and it wasn’t because they didn’t produce the food. Stalin was taking the food and selling it to fund whatever his needs.

Sometimes I just can’t wrap my brain around the number of people that these madmen killed or let die because of their policies.

Glen went into the idea that people should die if they didn’t produce anything. And it wasn’t Hitler who thought that up, it was the prevailing idea of the time. If it airs again I would suggest watching it.

 

[friendship]

I already confirmed them, I showed what law they are by referencing them such as o9, etc.

friendship, I got the book of Sharia laws I know what they say. They are not online for me to give a link. I do not lie. There is no reason for me to lie. In Islam there is a reason to lie, Mohammed gave the orders to deceive others and to advance Islam in any manner, with violence always an option. The description of Jihad starts on page 599, o9.

Jihad
O: Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada, signifying warfare to establish the religion. And it is the lesser jihad. As for he greater jihad, it is spiritual warfare against the lower self (nafs), which is why the Prophet said as he was returning from jihad,

“We have returned form the lesser jihad to the greater jihad.” (My comment: probably had to enjoy his loot and slaves)

The scriptual basis for jihad, prior to scholarly consensus is such Koranic verses as

(1) Fighting is prescribed for you" 2:216
(2) “Slay them wherever you find them.” 4:89

…and it goes on with another verse from the koran and also from the Hadith. It describes more to the Muslims to look at Mohammed’s wars that he personally attended, some 27 of them.

Basically you can deny it all you want but your denials are meaningless. If you have so many problems with what the Koran, Hadith and Sharia laws this is why I ask why there are no Muslims working to change them? Are you afraid? It does say that Muslims are not supposed to question. They can be killed for questioning these laws. They are not to give personal interpretation to the Koran either.

And as for ‘Islams orders’ maybe you need the definition of a law. It is a binding custom or ruling that is enforced and controlled by authorities. If you follow the law you are ok, if you do not then you have to pay some consequences, if caught.

If you want me to acceopt your word you must give refrences from basic Fiqhi books.

 

[friendship]

There is no such thing as radical Muslims. There are no such thing as extremist Muslims. They are termed Jihadists in Islam. They are described in my previous post and are very much a normal Muslim.

I know that you are playing word games that many in the West started because they wanted to rationalize why or how could a religion do such a thing as kill others and think it is a good thing. It isn’t only considered good in Islam but it gets them to their heaven faster. They don’t have to sit in hell waiting for Allah to get them out. There is no guarantee that Allah will get them out.

And this is where I don’t understand why anyone would trust that God called Allah. He was a deceiver. Maybe what he told you guys is all a lie. Mohammed contradicted himself all the time in the Koran, except for getting his way concerning his sexual perversions.

Jihad never means killing non-sin people or killing your self.

 

[friendship]

Friendship,

I saw a program on ‘Nadia’, think that is correct spelling…it is about the young woman who was shot down this last summer in Tehran. It was a documentary about her life.

How would you compare your faith with hers…if you know which woman I am speaking about. The program made me cry; in part, she looks like my younger daughter.

If you know which woman I mean – we all saw her dying on Youtube – is your faith like hers?

There was another girl…Doula…age 17 in Iraq. They filmed her being stoned to death. She looked like my older daughter, I saw her being led out of her house and she was frail. I saw her stoned to death. It also made me deeply cry. They threw her body out somewhere…She was a virgin.

I signed the international petition to stop honor killing. It is very hard for me not to have a deep hate for those men who do those things…most women are innocent.

About that girl(Neda) her thes was very ambiguity and seems she doesn’t kill on the street . If you could read farsi notes I could give some linkes to you.

But as I said Islam didn’t ordered us to kill nonsin ones.

About that girl in Iraq she didn’t kill by muslims, her family who was Yazidi(one of cults who worship Satan) She maked love with a muslim boy but her family didn’t let her to marry him, So she runed away harbored to the Police and accepted Islam and married by the boy. After that her family said to police that they don’t want trouble her and said that they want see their girl. That poor girl accpted their promise and wnt to the village and stoned by her family.

My relegion is aginst killing non-sin people or troubling them. Quran says:
“Anyone who kills a person who has not committed murder, or who has not committed corruption in the land; then it is as if he has killed all the people”(Quran5:32)

 

[Young_Thinker]

But what about when pederasty was tolerated not too long ago in the Islamic world(in the Ottoman Empire, especially)? Homophilia is a grave sin in any of the Abrahamic religions, so is not that an example of Muslim hypocricy or laxity?

 

[KathleenGee]

Doula was a virgin. I read that after they did an autopsy on her body.

So so sad…Yes, I know she was of a different belief.

 

[KathleenGee]

Some times I think that form of Islam and all those surrounding sects are part of the movement of the Anti-Christ…

It has an evil in it that keeps people backwards. They make no progress and think the world is theirs. Wild people. Doesn’t go away, like you are seeing primitive men who are unable to become more civilized.

The documentary on the Iranian girl showed the face of a moderate and balanced person.

Friendship, do you then support the present Iranian government? They are pure Shi’a Muslim for what I can understand…their thinking atleast.

 

[Young_Thinker]

Well, eschatology is definitely not one of my favorite subjects, but al-Mahdi and the Antichrist(though the latter might instead be a Jew because of his prophetic occupation of the Temple) do share a lot of characteristics.

Some times I think that form of Islam and all those surrounding sects are part of the movement of the Anti-Christ…

 

[friendship]

Doula was a virgin. I read that after they did an autopsy on her body.

So so sad…Yes, I know she was of a different belief.

It is comman that she was virgin, Because girls can don’t let hasband to have sex with him before hasband provide hoause and every neccesary things in life. She was in police station and didn’t go do hasband’s house.

 

[Young_Thinker]

…It is also rather interesting to note that, as I have been told by a[n apparently Muslim] professor (and if I correctly remember it), the nation which officially has Sharia Law is the Sudan.

 

[friendship]

Some times I think that form of Islam and all those surrounding sects are part of the movement of the Anti-Christ…

It has an evil in it that keeps people backwards. They make no progress and think the world is theirs. Wild people. Doesn’t go away, like you are seeing primitive men who are unable to become more civilized.

You must attention that it is 2 centeries that muslims are poor, before that Islamic great cuontries and muslims had good condition, and in addition I thing biggest problem of muslims is that “They don’t follow islamic orders and do what they like to do and then say Islam want us to do so!!!” Muslims must do the Islam orders to be ameliorate their condition.

Friendship, do you then support the present Iranian government? They are pure Shi’a Muslim for what I can understand…their thinking atleast.

I don’t support every thing Iranian goverment do. I think it need to ameliorate.