The truth about the Catholic High School Boys

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I have no reason to not believe Nicholas Sandmann’s (main student’s) statement. It seems to align perfectly with what I see from the extended videos.

In no way am I friendly towards Trump, and (sadly?) I tend to be suspect of people wearing MAGA hats. However, when it comes to people profaning the Catholic faith like this, I will not let it stand. The students may have made a few poor decisions throughout the encounter, but it simply was NOTHING like what we were all first told to believe.
 
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I’ve read at least 4 versions of this story:
  1. Kids confront NA man.
  2. NA man confronts kids.
  3. Kids confront group of black people. NA man caught in the middle.
  4. Black people confront kids, NA man tries to keep the peace, kids turn on NA man.
At this point, we are unlikely to know what really happened. Best not to comment.
 
I think the videos clarify which of the above is more plausible. Even news outlets like CNN are clarifying the story.

The kids certainly did not “confront” Mr. Phillips or the Native American group or the Black Israelites group in the sense that they deliberately gathered to be provocative and pick on them.

The videos quite apparently show the Hebrew Israelites group picking out the high school students, calling them vulgar names and insulting the Catholic Faith, as well as picking on the Native American group as well.
 
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The problem with the truth coming out about the situation is that it gives a black eye to social media “shamers.”

Many people depend on using the internet as a means of shaming. If we take that away from them, what else have they got in their lives? What other joy? What other catharsis?

(I’m being sarcastic. Satirical. ).
 
I saw video showing #2.

NA man approaches kids with about 6 videographers with him videotaping him from different angles. He clearly walked into group of Catholics with his friends videotaping from different angles.

Then for next 5 minutes Black Protestors yelling racial slurs at Catholics:
“you guys look like school shooters”
“you guys have a [N word] among you? get him outta here and out here!”
“you guys are bunch of crackers”
“you guys know the Romans and Greeks were a bunch of [homosexual slur], right?”

Funny how CNN left out the Protestor video
 
The entire situation hasn’t shocked me. Rallies, Marches, and Protests usually involve highly emotional and vocal participants. It shouldn’t surprise anyone when people begin arguing, yelling, or having a standoff. Ideally, opposing group should be kept separate.

I would encourage the parents of the accused to get a lawyer immediately and file a defamation lawsuit.
 
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This is why I really despise social media and some of the MSM more and more.
Rush to judgement before all the facts come out.
And both sides do it but I knew there was a lot more to this story than what was being initially reported.
 
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Having said all this, the MAGA hats were a poor choice for the context.
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So Catholic teenage students are not allowed to wear the hat of their choice? To the March for Life? Is this the liberal left “lets all be free” opinion? Nothing about this incident was about Trump but yet there are still those who can’t seem to accept, after two years, that he was elected president. Everyone has the right to choose whatever hat they want, even the disgusting pink female part representing hats worn at the “women’s march” in 2017.
 
But we do know what happened. The is almost 2 hours of video, 1 hour 45 mins I think, that shows what happened. The kids never confronted anyone, they never turned on anyone, they never instigated anything. They were being verbally abused by a fringe group and rather than engage in abuse they decided to started to do their school cheers. They remained in their group the whole time. In looking at the video, the unedited ones, the fringe group continued to yell slurs at the kids and Mr. Phillips walk toward them while beating his drum.

I feel the boys showed restraint in the situation by not reacting negatively to the situation. They have been vilified in the media, their live changed forever by something they did not do.
 
Right. And I lived in Maryland for the past two years before moving out to the west coast and used to make trips to DC. There were (and most likely still are) many visitors who wore a MAGA hat of all stripes (white, african-american, asian, latino, young, old) every time I made it down there. Where I take issues is when people assume that one is a racist and bigot for wearing a MAGA hat and that it symbolizes hatred, oppression and intolerance. I think that in and of itself is quite ironic after this whole debacle.
 
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That sounds like something you’d expect out of a troll, but that is a very old account. Still hard to believe that someone would genuinely react like that.
 
franklin said:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/42416/heres-what-you-need-know-about-confrontation-emily-zanotti

Looks like the indigenous veteran was the one who actually confronted the kids while they were peacefully waiting for the bus to arrive after the March for Life. When I first saw the clip, I was disgusted and wondering what these boys were trying to accomplish. Now that I’ve seen the full video of what actually transpired, it’s pretty apparent that four grown men had been verbally assaulting these kids and a group of Native American men confronted these boys and started drumming in front of their faces. They had been practicing their school cheer to drown out the four aforementioned men and when Phillips arrived (the Native American) they thought that it was all fun and games, but realized that something more serious was going on when he wouldn’t stop drumming near one of the student’s face.

He also falsely claimed that they ended up surrounding him and wouldn’t let him leave - that he had been subject to derogatory remarks and that they had been screaming “build the wall”.

Even CNN and the NY Times are backtracking from their initial reports.

Now the student at the center of this is receiving death threats.
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I’ve always thought “FAKE” is the wrong word for the news business. It is disrespectful to the word FAKE. The news business is worse than FAKE. FAKE actually elevates the news business WAY above their actual status.
 
franklin said:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/42416/heres-what-you-need-know-about-confrontation-emily-zanotti

Looks like the indigenous veteran was the one who actually confronted the kids while they were peacefully waiting for the bus to arrive after the March for Life. When I first saw the clip, I was disgusted and wondering what these boys were trying to accomplish. Now that I’ve seen the full video of what actually transpired, it’s pretty apparent that four grown men had been verbally assaulting these kids and a group of Native American men confronted these boys and started drumming in front of their faces. They had been practicing their school cheer to drown out the four aforementioned men and when Phillips arrived (the Native American) they thought that it was all fun and games, but realized that something more serious was going on when he wouldn’t stop drumming near one of the student’s face.

He also falsely claimed that they ended up surrounding him and wouldn’t let him leave - that he had been subject to derogatory remarks and that they had been screaming “build the wall”.

Even CNN and the NY Times are backtracking from their initial reports.

Now the student at the center of this is receiving death threats.
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Re: consequences for the news lying about someone

Bearing false witness against one’s neighbor , is a mortal sin. AND in extension, wrecking someone’s reputation is a libelous action. Where are the law suits against those who not only try but destroy someone’s reputation AND also put people and their family’s safety in danger?
 
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I’m guessing they’re having pretty intense meetings today, trying to figure out how to get out of the corner they’ve painted themselves into.
 
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