The ugly reason ‘The Star-Spangled Banner’ didn’t become our national anthem for a century

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It was actually way worse. They used private aircraft to fire bomb buildings from the sky, and I might be confusing this with another incident but I’m pretty sure I remember them machine gunning black people from said aircraft as well.
 
Just like Michael Brown was shot in the back running away with his hands up? Unless I saw video-footage authenticated by a 3rd party or had the testimony of someone I personally know and trust, I really doubt that happened.
 
I don’t blame you for skepticism, but I lived in Stillwater Oklahoma for a time and got to know several people who lived through it on both sides.
 
I don’t think the article discussed in this thread is about current protests but the context of the song, which is slavery still existing plus slaves used by both sides during two wars, and segregation, etc., still taking place long after the song was accepted as a national anthem.
 
You know Jenny?
Her daughter’s name is Stacy.
The phrase “hireling and slave” was a common phrase of that time period, used as an insult here against the British troops.
Apparently people have never heard of the press gang or Hessian mercenaries.
I would’ve thought that the delay in accepting it as the national anthem is more to do with the US losing the War of 1812.
The United States did not lose the War of 1812. Arguably it was a win seeing original motivations for going to war, British troops still present in the West and the press ganging of American sailors were resolved.
That seems a pretty neutral statement about the anthem and it is a comment on Key’s life and writings.
The end game of course is to cancel him for not being fully woke.
 
From the O.P.
“The elevation of the banner from popular song to official national anthem was a neo-Confederate political victory, and it was celebrated as such,” Morley wrote. “When supporters threw a victory parade in Baltimore in June 1931, the march was led by a color guard hoisting the Confederate flag.”
Good heavens! And the democratic presidential candidate personally travelled to Baltimore to partake in a celebration of this famous anthem!
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Vice President Joe Biden will be in town this weekend, to help Baltimore celebrate its “Star-Spangled Banner” bicentennial.

The vice president, who hails from neighboring Delaware, will be at Fort McHenry Saturday night to deliver remarks during a concert that will be broadcast live on PBS, beginning at 8 p.m. His remarks are scheduled for 9:30 p.m.
 
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I had never heard of this atrocity. In doing a search, the only thing I could find was that the young man who was the start of the whole thing was found innocent and that it had been concluded the the had stepped on her foot or fell into her but nothing that she recanted?
 
A building stands on the site of a former slave plantation in the heart of the capital. This building is famous but hides a sinister history of extraordinary cruelty to people of a different race. I mean, these guys were just mean all the time to their slaves. They never allowed a moment’s peace. Also, acts of adultery were committed here, and even high crimes and misdemeanors. The building should be evacuated, demolished, and a monument to Woke Lives Matter erected right at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, Washington DC.
 
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I can’t be sure on the exact math but I think Britain and Canada owe us approximately 100 trillion dollars in reparations for snowstorms between 1776 to 2020. 🤔
 
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Correct. My comments are influenced by what is currently occurring, primarily on the streets and in the major news media.

Had this thread come up 14 or 15 years ago, I might not have made any comment at all. The fact that someone may have been racist does not shock me - although there seem to be some people who feel we need to cancel those who were. Racist attitudes anger me, but I figured out that people were racist before I entered grade school - which was in 1952.
 
slaves used by both sides during two wars
Well, the British used runaways as mercenaries and then gave them land to farm. I think that is a quantum difference from how the Americans used slaves.
 
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Is it in any way, shape or form like the “article” on the Star-Spangled Banner?
No
I rest my argument there.
Did you know of the Tulsa Massacre? Would you just like to stay not knowing about it?
What does my knowing about the Tulsa Massacre have to do with anything?
 
Well, the British used runaways as mercenaries and then gave them land to farm. I think that is a quantum difference from how the Americans used slaves.
Hmm: Here’s some information about Slavery in Guyana:

http://www.guyana.org/features/guyanastory/chapter26.html
The slaves also obtained a clothing allowance roughly every year. The men received a coarse woollen jacket, a hat, about six yards of cotton, and a piece of canvas to make a pair or two of trousers. Women received the same allowance as the men, but children received none. The children remained naked until they were about nine years old, or were given cast-off clothing that their parents managed to find or were able to purchase.

The work day of the slaves began even before day-break. They were marched to the fields by slave drivers who controlled them with whips. Slave drivers were themselves slaves who were specially selected by the White plantation owner. A White overseer supervised the entire operation. With farm implements allocated to them, the slaves worked in the fields and were occasionally lashed by the slave drivers if they attempted to idle. Around the middle of the day they were given an hour’s break to refresh themselves. The work day ended at about eight in the evening. But the slaves who worked at the sugar mills during the grinding season were forced to work even longer hours.

Slaves were punished in various ways. For striking a White man, a hand could be cut off. But whipping was the most common form of punishment and this was inflicted liberally and in the most cruel form. The whipping was done by a slave driver under the watchful eye of a while overseer, and it was not unusual for the victim to be beaten to death."
And here’s some information about slavery in Jamaica.


“As elsewhere in the Americas, the right of masters in Jamaica to punish slaves was enshrined in law, and the violence that sustained slavery went far beyond whipping. Punishments could include amputation, disfiguring, branding and more. Slaves could also be put to death – a penalty most often enforced during the aftermath of rebellions. And they were rarely killed quickly. The torturous executions meted out to those who led uprisings or who were accused of collaborating in rebellious plots provide some of the most lurid” examples of human cruelty on record.
 
What does my knowing about the Tulsa Massacre have to do with anything?
It concerns being aware of America’s history as to race. It concerns activities currently in the news in this country.

Much of the bad parts of America’s history as to race were not included in history as it is taught and widely known.
Hmm: Here’s some information about Slavery in Guyana:
We’re concerned here with the War of 1812. That does not involve anything to do with Guyana.
Can’t access it without a subscription.
Try searching :
Star spangled banner +washington post
on google or duck, duck go.
 
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We’re concerned here with the War of 1812. That does not involve anything to do with Guyana.
Really? I was responding to your post about the superiority of Slavery under the English.
Here is what you said: “Well, the British used runaways as mercenaries and then gave them land to farm. I think that is a quantum difference from how the Americans used slaves.”
I wondered if you had read much about this and thought you might appreciate some literature which could provide additional information. As pointed out in the articles about British Guyana and Jamaica, slavery under the English could involve a great deal of brutality.
It seemed, from your comparison to Americans and slaves that you might not realize that the British practiced it as well.
 
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Really? I was responding to your post about the superiority of Slavery under the English.
My point was to show the difference between how slaves were treated by Americans in 1812 versus how the British treated those who went over to their side. If you noticed, a previous post stated: “the context of the song, which is slavery still existing plus slaves used by both sides during two wars, …” Well, the way the British used runaway slaves was vastly different than how they were used in the US. That’s why they ran away.
It seemed, from your comparison to Americans and slaves that you might not realize that the British practiced it as well.
You presume wrong.
 
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