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Ockham
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Alrightie, there’s one. If we took a survey I wonder what the results would be.
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shondrea
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I’m with you. I don’t see wat te harm is in most Halloween festivities. Carving pumpkins, watching ghost stories on TV, stringing a half ton of cotton spider web into your yard. I dunno. Maybe it’s just the way i celebrate Halloween, I don’t get it.I am a HUGE Halloween fan. I guess I’m the iconoclast around here. I adore it. Love spooky stuff, horror movies, creepy decorations, Iron Maiden, vampires (not the wimpy teenage junk from this generation but the nasty vampires you have to stake from years long ago), bring it!
My wife and I watch our marathons of Kolchak the Night Stalker, the 70’s TV horror show with Darren McGavin, a marathon of the TV show Friday the 13th in the late 80’s, and a bunch of John Carpenter horror flicks. LOVE Halloween…always will.
I don’t know why Catholics in here bash it. The Catholic priests are usually the heroes of horror movies, the only ones that can exorcise or destroy evil! They should appreciate the press!
I can understand why some aspects of halloween would bother some people. I think it’s silly to ban costumes like witches or Pirates, but I can at least try ti understand the parents reasoning. But some things people are afaid of is ridiculous. I don’t see what’s satantic about foam gravestones and skulls. In my eyes, there’s few things more appropriate for this time of year. A reminder of our mortality, and how someday soon, WE’LL be the ones needed prayers or deserving remembrance on these holidays.
That’s why my decorations never involve zombies, vapires, rotting corpses. If thats someone else’s thing, fine, but I prefer deco that focuses on end of life and the afterlife.
Or just really sweet pumpkins
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PatriceA
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Many in my neighborhood. The same people that come to my door for Trick or Treat are the same ones in the pews the next day.
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shondrea
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You needn’t sound so pessimistic. Who can say? It’s not right to be so low in your expectations
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Ockham
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Do a head count at All Soul’s Day Mass if your parish has one.
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shondrea
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I revert back to my earlier statement. I’m homebound.
But gosh, even it’s it’s probably true, that doesn’t mean you can sound so…what’s the word…presumptuous about it. Our religion in general has a low church attendance number, which is sad. No need to tie the celebration of a holiday in with the assumption that no one who enjoys the secular side will care about the holy side. Not saying that you ARE, it just coes across that way
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Ockham
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My point is we have been trading our Catholic culture for the secular world’s. I believe the vast majority of Catholics participate in Halloween and a small minority celebrate All Soul’s and Saints’ Day.
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gurneyhalleck1
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Perhaps the Church needs to do a better job of explaining and dilineating the importance of All Soul’s Day and get out the word more efficiently and in a more meaningful manner? I hear this same stuff about confession at some parishes. Our parish has five priests hearing confession AND STILL the lines of people standing there for each priest number about 30 every single Saturday night! Yet go to the neighboring town west of hear and there are only two lines of about five each! It’s about passionately getting the word out and making the purpose and meaning, the importance of the feast day or sacrament or Mass made obvious, urgent, and tangiable.
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archangel04
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I do, in fact it’s one of my favorite obligation days. But I also love going to “hunted” houses, watchingn horror movies, and scaring kids ja ja.
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archangel04
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I honsetst don’t think they have traded it for a scecualar holida, how can they when they are not educated in the meaning of all souls day? I hate to point the finger here, but this is where the Church is to blame
Worried more about looking good in political view, enforcing the notion of “social justice” or “ecumenism” instead of teaching about eternitiy.
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Ockham
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Precisely. And when did this shift occur?I honsetst don’t think they have traded it for a scecualar holida, how can they when they are not educated in the meaning of all souls day? I hate to point the finger here, but this is where the Church is to blame
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At_Trent
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I think anyone with adequate reading comprehension can look at my previous posts on the matter and figure out where I stand on the matter. No further explanation is needed.Well thank goodness you’re humble enough to acknowledge that what you say is just an opinion and not something said with papal infallibility.
On the other hand, how you continue to stand by something while knowing that is another story.
And I think it’s high time you started backing up what you say with logic.
Unless of course this is all just some grand scheme of yours into making us think you actually believe the things you’ve said here.
You are a poor inquisitor and your ad hominem tone is lame.
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At_Trent
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Even Muslims get it
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shondrea
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At_Trent
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What ? Those folks see a problem ? I knew those Franciscans were scrupulous !
j/k, thaks for posting that. It’s good they are concerned.
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Lost_Wanderer
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Pot calling the kettle black. At least my ad homs, address one thing: your incapability to address anybody. Anyone who reads your posts can clearly see you’re dancing away from the issue while covering your ears, parroting the same thing Jack Chick does like a broken record. Again, you cry about the secularization of holidays such as Easter. Yet when it comes to Halloween, you act as if that secularization had done nothing to the original Samhain. Gimme a break. Double standards much?
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Lost_Wanderer
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Actually, people are already holding trick-or-treating in the malls (weird I know) and halloween parties are becoming common amongst the middle class.
Despite that, these are the same people you can still see swarming your local cemetery and attending mass.
So yeah, I don’t think there’s any impossibility in celebrating both.
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Miserys_Fence
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If you’re ever in the Cincy area in October…My elder daughter tried to reason with me–“Mom, you know they’re not real people, right?” to which I responded, “Shhh!! They’ll hear you!”
When my girls were young, we lived way out in the boonies of rural Appalachia. The tiny town we lived in sent the volunteer fire dept. trucks to sit at each end of the main road to warn the handful of cars that the kids were trick-or-treating that night, and to be extra-careful. They’d blow their sirens at 6 pm sharp to let the kids know when to start, and again at 7 when it was time to stop (our town was so small that we could hit every house in under an hour).
Most of the girls’ friends lived even further out, and didn’t have any sort of neighborhood to go trick-or-treating. So if they went out on a weeknight, I’d have all their friends come home with them, and we’d have a pizza party before the fun started. I’d take them out, and after it was over, I’d take them all over to the party/costume contest at the fire station and enjoy hot cider and donuts while the kids burned off a little bit of sugar.
I really miss those days, and I guess that’s why I’m rather nostalgic about Halloween.
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Lost_Wanderer
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This is actually quite true. However, is it just me or do they always seem to portray such priests as exceedingly handsome?I don’t know why Catholics in here bash it. The Catholic priests are usually the heroes of horror movies, the only ones that can exorcise or destroy evil! They should appreciate the press!
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Then again, comics tend to do the same with nuns these days so I guess I shouldn’t be complaining.
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