Obviously the two are intrinsically related. If someone gets out of a Lexus and walks into church in jeans and a football jersey they obviously don’t think Mass is important.People dress according to the importance of the event.
If people come to Mass looking like they don’t believe - address their unbelief, not their dress.
OurLadyPerpHelp;7560714 Protestants get dressed up for their Sunday services and they don’t have the blessing of being before Jesus. [/QUOTE said:Actually this is not 100% accurate. Jesus present among them, but not in the same way as with a Catholic or Orthodox Church.
No, not ‘physically’, Can you find an official document that states this?The Church teaches Jesus is physically present in the Tabernacle and in the Blessed Sacrament.
I was not denying the very special presence of Christ in the Tabernacle, but that is not the only mode of His presence, and some of the other modes Protestants enjoy as well. The Lord is present in the proclamation of the Gospel. Wherever tow ore more are gathered in His name, He is there also. So it is best not to imply that Jesus is absent from Protestant services. A major difference is that Jesus is in a Catholic or Orthodox Church all of the time, even when Mass/Divine Liturgy aren’t going on. I think we can discuss this issue without denigrating our separated brethren.The Church teaches Jesus is physically present in the Tabernacle and in the Blessed Sacrament. If I am in someone’s physical presence that I respect and consider important I will dress accordingly. So will the poor.
When Jesus rode into Jerusalem the people placed palm branches before him as a sign of respect. I doubt palm branches cost a lot of money then. It was the thought that counts. Should we not give Him equal respect when He comes to us in the Blessed Sacrament? Why would we expect Him to show us mercy on our Judgement Day when we didn’t show Him respect on the Sabbath?
‘. . . Christ, whole and entire, in His physical “reality” is bodily present, although not in the same way that bodies are present in a given place.’No, not ‘physically’, Can you find an official document that states this?
‘Really’ present, yes, ‘Sacramentally’ present, yes. ‘Present in a mysterious and unique way’, yes. ‘Physically’? No.
Because that would mean He is restricted in time and space, which He is not.
I still think a better way to describe it is “substantially” present than “physically” present. This is not a denial of the physicality, bur draws a clearer distinction between substance and accident.‘. . . Christ, whole and entire, in His physical “reality” is bodily present, although not in the same way that bodies are present in a given place.’
Christ became man and walked on Earth, and was physically present then. He is physically present now too.
- Pope Paul VI in Mysterium Fidei
His flesh is true flesh, His blood is true blood. Only the appearance, the accidents are different, because we would have difficulty consuming the Eucharist if it also had the outward appearance of its true reality and substance.
This is a traditionalist forum but not all who contribute here are traditionalists.Anytime I’ve met my traditional Catholic friends after Mass they are wearing their Sunday best. I guess not all traditionals think this way.
We are praying to Jesus under the appearance of the Host. But this ios not the only kind of presence of Our Lord among the faithful.At Eucharistic Adoration are we starring at Jesus or not?
I’m getting that impression and now seek to understand why. I see you are new here too. Do you know why non-traditional Catholics wish to discuss traditional Catholicism with traditional Catholics? I’ve come here to learn but it seems others are here to debate. We should all have better things to do with our time than engage in senseless debates with one another. This division makes me wonder if Satan is up to his old tricks again.This is a traditionalist forum but not all who contribute here are traditionalists.
I wondered the exact same thing when I joined. I have no explanation as of yet but as I continue to put 2+ 2 together I am finding out who comes up with 4 and who comes up with 5 or 9 or infinity if you catch my drift. I am glad you have joined and please feel free to add me as a friend if you are inclined to do so.I’m getting that impression and now seek to understand why. I see you are new here too. Do you know why non-traditional Catholics wish to discuss traditional Catholicism with traditional Catholics? I’ve come here to learn but it seems others are here to debate. We should all have better things to do with our time than engage in senseless debates with one another. This division makes me wonder if Satan is up to his old tricks again.
Yes and no. The Real Presence cannot be seen. If what you see is only the white disk, you are seeing the accidents, not Jesus himself. If, however, you go deeper and perceive (rather than see with the eyes) His Presence and Sacrifice, the ‘Lamb standing as if slain’ of the Apocalyse, you can be said to be seeing Him, but not with your physical eyes.At Eucharistic Adoration are we starring at Jesus or not?
Yes we are. BUT THAT IS NOT THE ONLY MANIFESTATION OF THE PRESENCE OF JESUS!!!Allow me to rephrase: At Eucharistic Adoration are we in front of Jesus or not?