I clearly said that there is a difference in the presence between Catholic and Protestant Churches. (Yeas I was shouting because you obviously were not getting my point, which, I may add, is the teaching of the Church.) Because the Protestants do not have the Eucharist, does NOT mean that Jesus is nowhere to be found in their assemblies, as you seem to imply. When we refer to the “real presence” in the Eucharist, it does not mean that the other presences of Christ are not real, but that it is real as opposed to a symbol.
yes, a dress code should deal with Modesty. As the mother of teenage sons I find it must be very distracting for them to be sitting behind a healthy young girl in tight or overly revealing clothes.
This is your mistake. The Real Presence is not higher it is different. Jesus is present in the assembly, in the person of the priest, in the reading of the Word, and on the altar. Remember that the Eucharist is not an end to itself. Adoration, benediction, etc are good things, but adoration is not why we were given the Eucharist. We were given the Eucharist to receive His Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity. Jesus did not say “take and adore” he said “take and eat.” It is a disservice to our Lord and the Church He founded to limit His presence to only a single manifestation.
I’m sure that not everyone wearing a coat leaves right after taking Communion. There are a lot of reasons for leaving your coat on if you are comfortable. I wouldn’t want to try and negotiate a coat rack with 300 other parishioners. Sometimes I leave valuables in my pockets and would rather not risk losing them by taking a coat on or off. Or risk having my coat go home with someone else by accident. Yes, that happened to me once. Fortunately we are close knit parish and I was able to get my coat back. And my church does have a coat rack in the back.My church has adequate heat, along with the other churches I’ve visited. There’s also plenty of coat racks. People just don’t utilize them and would rather keep them on during service, this way they can just leave right after they take communion. Very rude!
It’s one thing if your church is ice cold and that’s how it is-- but when your church has modern conveniences of good heat and coat racks, take coats off. JMO.
You are misrepresenting everything I say. I even looked up my notes on the Eucharist from my Sacraments class. What I presented is authentic Catholic teaching. Your misrepresentations of what I posted are not.
Then clarify your position and list authorative sources to your position. I am not intending to misrepresent you in any manner. My point that you challenge is that as we have the Real Presence in our churches and Protestants do not we should at least show the same amount of respect in our attire. Why you feel the need to debate this is beyond me. Don’t we bother have better things to be doing right now?
You are the one that is flogging this expired equine.
It is not a teaching of the Catholic Church to shout at people who do not understand some convoluted point. I sense you are becoming angry.Thank you.
I do not think you will find any one to dispute that description of modest dress, provided that the dress is neither intended as a display of opulence
While this is true enough, the article makes mention only of coverage. For example one could have a dress with this coverage that costs some certain price at Wal-Mart. (Forgive me, I am not in the habit of pricing dresses
) One could also go to a high-end clothing store, find an article that provides the same coverage, but costs several hundred dollars. I think we need to keep this in mid. And the same goes for menswear. I have two dress jackets, both were bough at Men’s Warehouse (on sale no less!). I am content with these. I cannot justify spending a huge sum of money on say a Hugo Bass dress coat that alone costs twice as much as my two put together. On the one hand, if one is overly label conscious, it could be seen as a form of idolatry, and on the other spending too much money on clothing can be seen as poor stewardship. My point is modesty has two facets: coverage and frugality.That is the way I understand it. I generally wear a jacket and tie to Mass on Sundays. Daily Mass for me is a bit different because I have classes the rest of the week. I think something that will change people’s attitudes is we have to get away from the idea that Mass is something we “go to.” In reality, Mass is participation in an eternal event in which we receive the Creator of the universe.