There is no excuse for supporting this president

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You apparently don’t know how to use a Google search either because Don Black (white supremacist) - Wikipedia is the first response it gave back for the man. So I don’t know of what you’ve heard if is a good metric for anything.

I never said Trump was a white nationalist. I said he uses white nationalist language - pandering to them - and that white nationalist strategy is to package their ideology is more palatable ways so people - like politicians - can get away with expressing them. You then asked in a rather uncharitable way to see examples of white nationalist who do this. Which I then provided.

If a grand wizard of the KKK and the former leader of a literal neo-nazis party who is on video explaining how they need to make their message more friendly to sell it better doesn’t demonstrate what you asked, then nothing will. And Lee Atwater has said unequivocally that the Republican party has been using the same tactics since Goldwater. Which has worked for them in every election since except 1974 when Carter (a Southern Democrat) took the South.
 
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Trump beat the other Republican candidates because they were all more of the same kind of candidate as Bush 2. Jeb Bush? Mitt Romney? Oh please … Trump won out because he was the only candidate to address immigration and the “forever” wars. Not to mention the rest of the candidates were inept at best.

Democrats had their own chance to vote for a candidate who at the time was also against the “forever” wars. As I recall, Sanders got quite a few votes and even won a few primaries, putting such a scare into Clinton and the DNC that they resorted to foul means to cut him down.

Trump won because he spoke to the issues that mattered to the electorate. Trump won because he spoke of restraint in foreign wars and Hillary did not. Read the transcript from the second Presidential debate.

Trump’s resistance to the “forever” wars are a primary area of support. So far. If he allows a war with Iran to take place, he will lose that support.

On the Democrat side, the candidates being presented to us are mostly not with the electorate. Only Gabbard has come out clearly against the “forever” wars and it shouldn’t surprise anyone that she was the most searched candidate on Google after each of the debates that she participated in,. But the media is firmly in the grip of the establishment that wants war, hence Gabbard cannot get any traction.
 
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grotto said:
Its not “making fun” that is being hurled at America’s President - and at Americans because we are standing up for our country - Faith, Family, Freedom has been under attack from within and without. We are cleaning house, and will get the job done.
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Im sorry. I dont see any house cleaning being done. I see a lot of pearl clutching, over the media criticism of this president. Which frankly every president goes through.

Frankly, if the president of the United States and his supporters expect him to be treated with “kids gloves” then he is not prepared to be president or represent us on the world stage
 
Rhubarb said:
I never said Trump was a white nationalist. I said he uses white nationalist language
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How is “white nationalist language” objectively different from American-English?
Rhubarb said:
pandering to them
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That is an uncharitable assumption on your part. Trump has never done anything but condemn “white nationalism” and “neo-Nazism”.
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You then asked in a rather uncharitable way to see examples of white nationalist who do this.
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No I didn’t. I asked if Lee Atwater was a “white nationalist”.
 
NoKo is China’s sock puppet. Its provocations will parallel the trade negotiations with China.
 
Supporting our leaders is what we do. Obama was the most awful president in my life and I supported him, even though I didn’t vote for him. Trump is one of the better presidents in my life but I also did not vote for him. I still support him. It’s the party of hate, the Democrats who promote vile hate, who say we should not support him.
 
Anonkun said:
finding themselves pushed further away from the republican mainstream
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I think they(we) are still where we have always been. It’s the party ( the Trump party) that has shifted further away from the Republican principles of the past.

Or maybe it’s showing it’s real colors now. The embrace of Trump by people who have been Republicans for years baffles me.
 
PaulinVA said:
How do you explain all of the former Republicans who are anti-Trump?
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I don’t try to explain it. I’m just an outsider who abjures both parties but I’m in awe of how incredibly hate filled the Democrats are. I’ve never seen such vile.
 
RuthAnne said:
I don’t try to explain it. I’m just an outsider who abjures both parties but I’m in awe of how incredibly hate filled the Democrats are. I’ve never seen such vile.
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This is a serious question. Have you seen the reports of Trump rallies where news people are threatened and the President himself tells people to beat hecklers up and he’ll pay their legal bills?

Yeah, it’s the Democrats who are hate filled.

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/128896/beat-protester-trumps-rally-hell-cover-legal-fees
 
PaulinVA said:
This is a serious question. Have you seen the reports of Trump rallies where news people are threatened and the President himself tells people to beat hecklers up and he’ll pay their legal bills?

Yeah, it’s the Democrats who are hate filled.
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Yes, Obama never said if they bring a knife, you bring a gun. Really on the mark there.
 
Victoria33 said:
Yes, Obama never said if they bring a knife, you bring a gun. Really on the mark there.
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Wait, wasn’t that Sean Connery in the The Untouchables?

Yeah, it was Obama explaining that the general election against McCain could get ugly. He wasn’t actually inciting violence.

Your guy was.
 
There were 32 mass shootings while Obama was our president. Did we the people kick him for this nearly as much as Trump is getting kicked now?

Some fairly prominent shootings there too. San Bernardino, Orlando, Sandy Hook, just to name three. Can’t blame Trump for those.
 
Wow. Do any of you see what’s happening? BOTH sides are more interested in blaming the other side than finding some sort of common ground. Keep it up and our children will witness the fall of one of the world’s great societies. I honestly believe we are too divided to fix this, and frankly my identity as a Christian is far more important than my identity as an American. What happens happens. Even if the founding of this country was instituted by God (it wasn’t), we’ve made our moral choices as a country and will be left to the consequences of those choices.
 
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There were 32 mass shootings while Obama was our president. Did we the people kick him for this nearly as much as Trump is getting kicked now?
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Did Obama smile when his supporters yelled 'Shoot them." Did he say that people who marched with KKK & neo-Nazis were “some very fine people?”
I’ll give you a hint: the answer is no.
 
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Did Obama smile when his supporters yelled 'Shoot them." Did he say that people who marched with KKK & neo-Nazis were “some very fine people?”
I’ll give you a hint: the answer is no.
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Granted Obama didn’t start this one. But he gave at least implicit if not explicit permission for this operation to continue and he actively protected Eric Holder from the blowback. Over 300 persons in Mexico and a few more north of the border were killed with weapons that were supplied through this program.

That’s a lot worse than a smile or two.
 
You would benefit by listening to the actual and contextually correct video of what Trump said in Charlottesville rather than the media version. He said the the two groups gathered to either support the removal of statue as well as those who supported it remaining were comprised of good people just different views re the situation.He denounced the NeoNatzis’
 
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