They want to track us now!

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No thanks, not interested at all. My identity is mine and I don’t need tracking. America, if you let yourself fall for this you will have kissed Big Brother hard on the lips and in so doing kissed your liberties goodbye.

Big Brother is watching you. – George Orwell, ‘1984’

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. – William Pitt, speech, Nov. 18, 1783
 
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Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. – William Pitt, speech, Nov. 18, 1783
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While I agree with you on the insidious nature of a national ID card, I don’t think I would be using Willliam Pitt as an example for individual freedom. Good quote though, even though Pitt didn’t live up to it.

When the French Revolution began (1789), Pitt’s desire was for peace and neutrality, and after France finally declared war (1793) on Britain, he failed to foresee either the length or the seriousness of the conflict. Within Great Britain he suspended (1794) habeas corpus and enacted other repressive legislation to halt radical agitation.
 
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While I agree with you on the insidious nature of a national ID card, I don’t think I would be using Willliam Pitt as an example for individual freedom. Good quote though, even though Pitt didn’t live up to it.

When the French Revolution began (1789), Pitt’s desire was for peace and neutrality, and after France finally declared war (1793) on Britain, he failed to foresee either the length or the seriousness of the conflict. Within Great Britain he suspended (1794) habeas corpus and enacted other repressive legislation to halt radical agitation.
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Which I guess means that he very well proved his own sad point huh?
 
Hmmm…

I’ve said it before, but dangit, I’m moving to Mexico.
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
Gilliam are you just asking or are you suggesting that being tracked is okay?:eek:
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I am simply asking. People are tracked in Mexico all the time. It isn’t really a democracy down there.
 
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NO!NO!NO!I do not care how they paint it it is wrong! Wrong!Wrong!:eek: :mad: :eek: :mad:
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I think tracking people who enter the US temporarily would be a good idea, if we actually asked them to leave when their time expires. If we did so, the 9/11 terrorists would have been asked to leave prior to 9/11
 
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gilliam:
I am simply asking. People are tracked in Mexico all the time. It isn’t really a democracy down there.
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At least their honest about the corruption, though, eh? I’ve spent some time in Mexico, albeit not long-term. I love the country, don’t mind the poverty, and do intend to move there. Maybe not for good, but at least for a time. I appreciate the concern, though. 🙂
 
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gilliam:
I think tracking people who enter the US temporarily would be a good idea, if we actually asked them to leave when their time expires. If we did so, the 9/11 terrorists would have been asked to leave prior to 9/11
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We have terrorist in the country now:nope: The fluffy picture aside there are warehouses of chips ready for US citizens,I do not like it and will not comply with such there is a time to say no way:nope:
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
We have terrorist in the country now:nope: The fluffy picture aside there are warehouses of chips ready for US citizens,I do not like it and will not comply with such there is a time to say no way:nope:
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Now, all joking aside, would not the evangelicals see this as the Mark of the Beast?

Blessings,
Shoshana
 
Faster locating of the body after being killed by a serial killer. no use other than that
 
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Shoshana:
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Now, all joking aside, would not the evangelicals see this as the Mark of the Beast?

Blessings,
Shoshana
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Shoshana I am going to find a reply from one of the priests from EWTN that doesn’t like that either:nope: http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showre…p?RecNum=406109

Fr Echert got asked this question, specifically about the VeriChip and here is his response:

What is your belief on the “Veri Chip”?
Question from Steffen G. on 07-17-2004: In protestant theology, the “Mark of the Beast” in implanted under the skin in the hand or forehead and no one can buy or sell with out one. Right now it is voluntary the people are getting them for “personal security” the mexican government has been “chiped”, some people in the u.s. have gotten chipped, the first a family from florida. i know this is not the “beast”, but would not this make people put down there gaurd, like 1940’s people were wery of credit cards but they are common now and people do not think about it. could it happen with the verichip/mark of beast? Lord know what can be downloaded on these chips without anyone knowing. also don’t you think that revelations as interpreted by the bible christians is errily similar to this?

Answer by Fr. John Echert on 07-17-2004: Enough so that I will refuse to allow the implantation of any such chip under my skin or within my biological system, whether it be for military purposes, commercial exchange, national or personal security, or any other reason. I cannot know for certain that such would be a fulfillment of the “mark of the beast” of revelation, but it is too close to ignore and foreign to the body God gave me. In short, it will have no place in this the body of this priest. Thanks, Steffen Father Echert
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
We have terrorist in the country now:nope: The fluffy picture aside there are warehouses of chips ready for US citizens,I do not like it and will not comply with such there is a time to say no way:nope:
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Where does it say anything about warehouses of chips ready for US citizens?
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
Shoshana I am going to find a reply from one of the priests from EWTN that doesn’t like that either:nope: http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showre…p?RecNum=406109

Fr Echert got asked this question, specifically about the VeriChip and here is his response:

What is your belief on the “Veri Chip”?
Question from Steffen G. on 07-17-2004: In protestant theology, the “Mark of the Beast” in implanted under the skin in the hand or forehead and no one can buy or sell with out one. Right now it is voluntary the people are getting them for “personal security” the mexican government has been “chiped”, some people in the u.s. have gotten chipped, the first a family from florida. i know this is not the “beast”, but would not this make people put down there gaurd, like 1940’s people were wery of credit cards but they are common now and people do not think about it. could it happen with the verichip/mark of beast? Lord know what can be downloaded on these chips without anyone knowing. also don’t you think that revelations as interpreted by the bible christians is errily similar to this?

Answer by Fr. John Echert on 07-17-2004: Enough so that I will refuse to allow the implantation of any such chip under my skin or within my biological system, whether it be for military purposes, commercial exchange, national or personal security, or any other reason. I cannot know for certain that such would be a fulfillment of the “mark of the beast” of revelation, but it is too close to ignore and foreign to the body God gave me. In short, it will have no place in this the body of this priest. Thanks, Steffen Father Echert
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Thanks Lisa…just had a feeling…like a knot in my stomach…not good…God bless you! 🙂
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
Shoshana I am going to find a reply from one of the priests from EWTN that doesn’t like that either:nope: http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showre…p?RecNum=406109

Fr Echert got asked this question, specifically about the VeriChip and here is his response:

What is your belief on the “Veri Chip”?
Question from Steffen G. on 07-17-2004: In protestant theology, the “Mark of the Beast” in implanted under the skin in the hand or forehead and no one can buy or sell with out one. Right now it is voluntary the people are getting them for “personal security” the mexican government has been “chiped”, some people in the u.s. have gotten chipped, the first a family from florida. i know this is not the “beast”, but would not this make people put down there gaurd, like 1940’s people were wery of credit cards but they are common now and people do not think about it. could it happen with the verichip/mark of beast? Lord know what can be downloaded on these chips without anyone knowing. also don’t you think that revelations as interpreted by the bible christians is errily similar to this?

Answer by Fr. John Echert on 07-17-2004: Enough so that I will refuse to allow the implantation of any such chip under my skin or within my biological system, whether it be for military purposes, commercial exchange, national or personal security, or any other reason. I cannot know for certain that such would be a fulfillment of the “mark of the beast” of revelation, but it is too close to ignore and foreign to the body God gave me. In short, it will have no place in this the body of this priest. Thanks, Steffen Father Echert
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That is a terrible arguement. Using this arguement he would be against a pacemaker implanted in his body (which I would guess he would not be). IMHO he just doesn’t want people to know where he is at any one time. That is fine, in the US you have that right. But it has nothing to do with theology.

Lisa, you really should calm down and stop reading about all these conspiracy theories. Your going to have a stroke some day!
 
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Thanks Lisa…just had a feeling…like a knot in my stomach…not good…God bless you! 🙂
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I do not like it either shoshanna,and God Bless you too:)
 
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