Things Get Hot for Michael Mann

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Geez, from the title I thought it was director Michael Mann.
 
It is too bad that this will never make world news. The hockey-stick graph is the basis for much of the pro-warming agenda. Not only is it “mistaken,” it is purposely deceitful and erroneous. One really does wonder the true intention of those who are trying to push the climate change/global warming agenda. I do not subscribe to conspiracy theories but there is obviously something going on behind the curtain.
 
Tim_D said:
It is too bad that this will never make world news. The hockey-stick graph is the basis for much of the pro-warming agenda.
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In the eyes of the media, maybe the hockey stick graph is crucial, but to other climate scientists it is rather unimportant.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
In the eyes of the media, maybe the hockey stick graph is crucial, but to other climate scientists it is rather unimportant.
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It is now, but it certainly wasn’t when it was the centerpiece of the IPCC 4th Assessment Report. This appears to be the way the IPCC works: make exaggerated, unsupportable claims, and when they are shown to be false, just move on. Nothing to see here, folks, just move along.

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LeafByNiggle said:
In the eyes of the media, maybe the hockey stick graph is crucial, but to other climate scientists it is rather unimportant.
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To the “other” climate scientists, the ones who know that man-made climate change is an unsupportable and falsified proposition, it simply stands as yet more evidence that the whole thing is a fraud.
 
As the very little bit that I could understand, this is bad for Climate change agenda. It hurts the trust of the people.

I personally do not believe this will be news worthy to many, many people. It undermines their hard work and this can have the power to bring the work down, and loose a lot of funding and support. SO this will be news to those involved in the actual fight to find the truth, but not the general public. It is simply not “ratings” worthy.
 
Thanks for posting the link Monte RCMS.

An illustration of "Mann made global warming" as they say.

Here’s (this link) another example when Mann allegedly claimed (falsely) over and over again that he won a Nobel Prize!:tsktsk:

I am glad you shed some “light” instead of “warming” on this situation.

God bless.

Cathoholic
July 7, 2017
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Things Get Hot for Michael Mann
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By Timothy Birdnow
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. . . . Mann is the Penn State climatologist famous for inventing the “hockey stick” graph promoting the notion that planetary temperatures spiked in the 20th century after a Golden Age of stasis. This graph was misleading at a minimum, the product of what Phil Jones, director of the Climate Research Unit of East Anglia termed “Mike’s Nature trick” to “hide the decline.” What Mann did was splice two separate data sets together to create the illusion of spiking temperatures; the graph spliced data sets together without differentiation, hiding the global temperature “decline” shown by the Briffa reconstruction set.
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Mann would use a number of statistical tricks to do away with the Medieval Warming Period, an embarrassment to the warm-mongers. He would hide data that disagreed with a sudden spike in temperature. Mann was the lead author of the IPCC Third Assessment Report chapter “Observed Climate Variability and Change” and his hockey stick was very influential in making governmental and international policy. Millions of dollars were affected by it.
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Mann had the misfortune of being mentioned by name in the leaked CRU e-mails and so was caught. . . .
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. . . For several years, Mann had refused to produce his data for the court (in support of his own case), claiming that it was “proprietary.” . . .
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. . . Mann has been waging lawfare against people who have rightly called him out on his deceptive practices, practices paid for with tax dollars and subject to the Freedom of Information Act. . . .
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americanthinker.com/articles/2017/07/things_get_hot_for_michael_mann.html
 
Tim_D said:
To the “other” climate scientists, the ones who know that man-made climate change is an unsupportable and falsified proposition, it simply stands as yet more evidence that the whole thing is a fraud.
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How many of these scientists can you list? Don’t include those who merely disagree with the degree of projected warming, but include only those who say what you said - that the whole thing is a fraud.
 
Cathoholic said:
Here’s (this link) another example when Mann allegedly claimed (falsely) over and over again that he won a Nobel Prize!
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You know he is not far from correct, since the whole team he was on won a Nobel Prize, so in a sense they all won it, just like when two or three people share in a Nobel Prize.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
You know he is not far from correct, since the whole team he was on won a Nobel Prize, so in a sense they all won it, just like when two or three people share in a Nobel Prize.
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Apparently not.

dailycaller.com/2016/06/29/new-global-warming-film-repeats-climate-scientists-fake-nobel-prize-claim/

Filmmaker and anti-fossil fuel activist Josh Fox’s new global warming movie features a climate scientist who has been repeatedly criticized for falsely claiming to be a Nobel Prize winner.

Climate scientist Michael Mann, known for his “hockey stick” global warming chart, is featured prominently in Fox’s film, “How To Let Go of the World -and Love All the Things Climate Can’t Change,” as a co-winner of the Nobel Prize in 2007 — a patently false claim.

The film has already been criticized by journalist Phelim McAleer for calling Mann a Nobel Prize winner, which he is not.

“In Josh Fox’s new film Mann was captioned as a 2006 Nobel Peace Prize winner,” McAleer wrote on Facebook. “After the San Francisco screening I wrote a piece pointing out how this lie was again being repeated and contacted HBO and Fox to see if they would be re-editing to reflect the truth.”

Fox’s film claims Mann is a “co-winner” of the Nobel Prize, which is not true. The Nobel committee has consistently said Mann and other climate scientists were not awarded the prize in 2007.

That year, the Nobel committee awarded the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and former Vice President Al Gore the prize for their “efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change”

“Mann has been called out on many occasions for falsely claiming he is a Nobel Peace prize winner,” wrote McAleer, who produced the pro-fracking documentary “Fracknation” as a response to Fox’s anti-fracking “Gasland” series.

“The committee has always been quite clear that he is not a Peace Prize winner,” McAleer wrote.

Mann even repeated the claim in his lawsuit against conservative pundit Mark Steyn and National Review, despite the fact the Nobel committee has said Mann is not a laureate. Both National Review and the Environmental Policy Examiner contacted the Nobel committee to see if it recognizes Mann as a prize winner.

Here’s what it told the Environmental Policy Examiner:

**1) Michael Mann has never been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. 2) He did not receive any personal certificate. He has taken the diploma awarded in 2007 to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (and to Al Gore) and made his own text underneath this authentic-looking diploma. 3) The text underneath the diploma is entirely his own. We issued only the diploma to the IPCC as such. No individuals on the IPCC side received anything in 2007.

In his defense, Mann has said the IPCC gave him a “certificate” acknowledging his contribution to its climate reports that eventually won the United Nations body the Nobel. The IPCC handed out these certificates to about 2,000 scientists and experts who also helped write the group’s reports.

The Nobel committee, however, has been clear that only those named in the prize (in this case the IPCC and Gore) can claim being Nobel Laureates. For years, Mann claimed on his personal web page he “shared” the Nobel Prize with the IPCC and others.

Now, Man’s personal page only claims he “contributed” to the IPCC’s winning the Nobel in 2007.

“Even after all these public announcements Mann continued to make the claim and perhaps most embarrassingly of all was forced to change a sworn affidavit in a court case after he again made the fake claim,” McAleer wrote, referring to Mann’s legal battle with Steyn and National Review.
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McAleer is not happy HBO has not forced Fox to correct his film to reflect Mann did not win the Nobel Prize.

“I received my response last night when the film aired on HBO – the Nobel Peace Prize lie remains – HBO seems doesn’t care about the truth or correcting the record or even the basic rules of journalism. It’s sad that all this energy and resources are being used to push falsehoods by fakes,” he wrote.
 
Monte_RCMS said:
Apparently not.

dailycaller.com/2016/06/29/new-global-warming-film-repeats-climate-scientists-fake-nobel-prize-claim/.
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Yes, Mann was technically incorrect about his personally receiving a Nobel Prize. But he was more than simply one of 2000 other scientists who worked on the IPCC. He arguably did more than Al Gore who did get a personal award. So that is what I meant when I said Mann was not very far from the truth. Being very far from the truth would be if I claimed to have received a Nobel Prize.

Like many who excel in their fields, they sometimes have an inflated ego. (Any current presidents come to mind?)

It is funny how when someone wants to discredit global warming theory they often say it is all invented by Mann. But in this issue of receiving a Nobel Prize, they say he was just one of 2000 working together. Pick your narrative and stick to it.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
Yes, Mann was technically incorrect about his personally receiving a Nobel Prize. But he was more than simply one of 2000 other scientists who worked on the IPCC. He arguably did more than Al Gore who did get a personal award. So that is what I meant when I said Mann was not very far from the truth. Being very far from the truth would be if I claimed to have received a Nobel Prize.

Like many who excel in their fields, they sometimes have an inflated ego. (Any current presidents come to mind?)

It is funny how when someone wants to discredit global warming theory they often say it is all invented by Mann. But in this issue of receiving a Nobel Prize, they say he was just one of 2000 working together. Pick your narrative and stick to it.
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Seeing that Mann has been shown to have simply invented, twisted and hidden historical evidence that completely contradicts his claims and the result of his “work,” it is little wonder that his “inflated ego” would lay claim to awards and acknowledgements that he 1) did not receive and 2) for which he is a total fraud.

One does not have to try very hard to “discredit global warming theory” when the basis for so much of the chicken little claims of death and destruction are the result of fraudulent and corrupted evidence. Mann “excels in his field” only to the extent that he will unashamedly lie about the results of his work and claim acknowledgments that he did not receive. Of course, if being “not very far from the truth” is a reason for praise in your mind, it is little wonder that you would defend a man and his dishonest practices as something praiseworthy.
 
Tim_D said:
Seeing that Mann has been shown to have simply invented, twisted and hidden historical evidence that completely contradicts his claims and the result of his “work,” it is little wonder that his “inflated ego” would lay claim to awards and acknowledgements that he 1) did not receive and 2) for which he is a total fraud.

One does not have to try very hard to “discredit global warming theory” when the basis for so much of the chicken little claims of death and destruction are the result of fraudulent and corrupted evidence. Mann “excels in his field” only to the extent that he will unashamedly lie about the results of his work and claim acknowledgments that he did not receive. Of course, if being “not very far from the truth” is a reason for praise in your mind, it is little wonder that you would defend a man and his dishonest practices as something praiseworthy.
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Wow. You got so much wrong. Let’s start from the end and work backwards.

Saying that Mann’s claim of a Nobel Prize is so far wrong is not praising his work.

Apparently it is hard to discredit global warming theory, since so many believe it, including the Nobel committee.

Your claims in the first paragraph are just wrong.
 
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