Things women help men with

  • Thread starter Thread starter VeritasLuxMea
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
Well, I read through this thread of all these “domestic duties” that women do to help men, when what I have experienced most in my life is that women these days absolutely refuse to do these chores altogether, because to do so would be demeaning to them. If you ask one to do the dishes, she may just blow a gasket. Further, for the most part, everybody is pretty lazy these days(men and women). Very few women actually run a tight ship like that. That’s just how it is. Most of the time the chores are pretty well split.
If the women in your life “absolutely refuse to do these chores altogether”, those chores wouldn’t be “pretty well split”. You’d be doing them all. Maybe what the women in your life find demeaning is your attitude that those domestic chores automatically belong to somebody else?

Maybe your wife wants to go to the same museum you do, so she can see this mythical husband she keeps hearing about, the one who expects to pitch in with the work around home and so doesn’t complain or even have to be asked to do so? :rolleyes: 😃
 
If the women in your life “absolutely refuse to do these chores altogether”, those chores wouldn’t be “pretty well split”. You’d be doing them all. Maybe what the women in your life find demeaning is your attitude that those domestic chores automatically belong to somebody else?

Maybe your wife wants to go to the same museum you do, so she can see this mythical husband she keeps hearing about, the one who expects to pitch in with the work around home and so doesn’t complain or even have to be asked to do so? :rolleyes: 😃
yeah…put that guy in a museum PLEASE!!!😃
 
yeah…put that guy in a museum PLEASE!!!😃
I’m not done with mine yet, and neither are my sister-in-laws. The best mothers-in-law did their work before you ever met their sons!! 👍

My sister has a magnet on her refrigerator that reads: No man was ever shot while doing the dishes. Her sons don’t think the dishes are their wives’ jobs, either.

But we digress from the topic of the thread…
 
My friend, your complaining and strong inference that men just don’t know what you women put up with is where I had some issues. Women are my world, and I love them. How you got the idea that I would NEVER give them credit for anything is another insult.

Try to recognize the difference between the two threads. One starts off giving credit and zero complaining. That one isn’t yours. You have jumped to conclusions and the thread is “ruined” because of the complaining, and stereotyping.

Do you assume I haven’t “traveled all over the world” or have advanced degrees"? Too much assuming. MY DAUGHTER (WHO I KNEW WOULD BE A GIRL) IS ON THIS EARTH BECAUSE I FOUGHT AGAINST THE EVIL OF ABORTION> I WELCOME WOMEN! Some of my greatest teachers have been women as well.

I’m all for female empowerment and some women chimed in on this thread in a beautiful way. You went over the top, and I really know what I’m talking about.
You would get that idea from you because you came on a thread that was suppossed to be complimentary about women and you decided to start a fight with one instead. And now you are yelling. Just stop already you’ve derailed this enough.
 
My wife is the heart and soul of our family.

She urges me to be a better person. She respects me and engages in the most thought-provoking discussions with me. She stands beside me in hard times (Okay, sometimes in front of, sometimes behind, but always with me). She rejoices with me in the good times.

She adds class and beauty to my life.
I love it! 🙂
 
Inspired by THIS THREAD.

What do women help men with, that we men should appreciate?
One thing I can think about is ending fights. If a woman says, ‘let it go, guys,’ you can let it go.

Also, women make delightful company and conversational partners. You’ve no idea how great it is to spend a spring afternoon talking to a gal instead of another man.

They also offer different perspectives, different outlooks. Some of which actually quite logical if you think about it. When not logical, they offer you the much-priced opportunity to say, ‘women,’ like it explains everything and you know all the answers.

In connection with the previous one, they can sometimes offer unique solutions to problems. Or just go and get things done. Much as we can, just in a different way.

It’s always kinda special when they cook or make coffee for you. As in you can do it yourself (especially coffee) but it always feels special, home-like, even if a female friend just pours you tea she brewed.

Softer features, nicer faces, nice to look at. Voices are a bit like music.
 
You would get that idea from you because you came on a thread that was suppossed to be complimentary about women and you decided to start a fight with one instead. And now you are yelling. Just stop already you’ve derailed this enough.
Would you yell or get upset if someone told you were NEVER giving to the opposite sex? This was all referring to one poster in particular anyway as can clearly be seen… Hey, it’s great to build up women, believe me, but I’m sick of the misrepresentations of men. That’s what needs to “just stop already”.

“A mans job is pretty much as it’s always been”? C’mon, that went out the window years ago. Yes, thankfully many women have successful high paying jobs. So much so that thousands of men do what was traditionally connected to women.

I will chime in to the hilt praising women, but I won’t keep quiet when men are misrepresented.
 
Would you yell or get upset if someone told you were NEVER giving to the opposite sex? This was all referring to one poster in particular anyway as can clearly be seen… Hey, it’s great to build up women, believe me, but I’m sick of the misrepresentations of men. That’s what needs to “just stop already”.

“A mans job is pretty much as it’s always been”? C’mon, that went out the window years ago. Yes, thankfully many women have successful high paying jobs. So much so that thousands of men do what was traditionally connected to women.

I will chime in to the hilt praising women, but I won’t keep quiet when men are misrepresented.
Nowhere were you in particular included in a reply, also, no reply said that men are never giving to women. Its ok, take a step back, calm down. You misunderstood the post and took it personally. The poster made it clear she did not intend it to belittle men. If we all take a step back maybe this thread can actually become what it was supposed to be, light-hearted, fun, and charitable.
 
Nowhere were you in particular included in a reply, also, no reply said that men are never giving to women. Its ok, take a step back, calm down. You misunderstood the post and took it personally. The poster made it clear she did not intend it to belittle men. If we all take a step back maybe this thread can actually become what it was supposed to be, light-hearted, fun, and charitable.
Perhaps a new thread should be started. I would gladly contribute some charitable things to it. I have the utmost respect for the women in my life and I certainly would not mind another opportunity to talk about them and the great things that they do for us. And maybe the anti male jabs can stay out of the new thread…

This thread is too far gone…and I am sorry that some of you don’t get what is so frustrating about that post. johnnyjones hit the nail squarely on the head with his last post.
 
You don’t think love is an obligation at times?? :confused:

Are you married??
Yes, I am very happily married. Wow, I can’t believe I just got hit on online! :cool: 😉

I do think that love is an obligation sometimes. But please read what you quoted in your reply to me. I have a problem with sacrifices being made out of obligation with resentment behind them rather than making the same sacrifices (which can clearly be obligatory at times) out of love for another person. BIG difference.
 
One thing I can think about is ending fights. If a woman says, ‘let it go, guys,’ you can let it go.

Also, women make delightful company and conversational partners. You’ve no idea how great it is to spend a spring afternoon talking to a gal instead of another man.

They also offer different perspectives, different outlooks. Some of which actually quite logical if you think about it. When not logical, they offer you the much-priced opportunity to say, ‘women,’ like it explains everything and you know all the answers.

In connection with the previous one, they can sometimes offer unique solutions to problems. Or just go and get things done. Much as we can, just in a different way.

It’s always kinda special when they cook or make coffee for you. As in you can do it yourself (especially coffee) but it always feels special, home-like, even if a female friend just pours you tea she brewed.

Softer features, nicer faces, nice to look at. Voices are a bit like music.
Thank you Chev for that beautiful post. 🙂
 
Nowhere were you in particular included in a reply, also, no reply said that men are never giving to women. Its ok, take a step back, calm down. You misunderstood the post and took it personally. The poster made it clear she did not intend it to belittle men. If we all take a step back maybe this thread can actually become what it was supposed to be, light-hearted, fun, and charitable.
Actually, your first sentence is incorrect… Read post #48, the last line. Thats part of what I was responding to. I simply responded to the continual feedback given to me. There was no misunderstanding on my part. I didn’t accept how men were presented in the post, but you did. As a matter of fact the poster “stands by her posts”.
 
Yes, I am very happily married. Wow, I can’t believe I just got hit on online! :cool: 😉

I do think that love is an obligation sometimes. But please read what you quoted in your reply to me. I have a problem with sacrifices being made out of obligation with resentment behind them rather than making the same sacrifices (which can clearly be obligatory at times) out of love for another person. BIG difference.
I honestly don’t understand what the huge fuss is over that lady’s post. She’s already assured repeatedly that no resentment whatsoever was meant on her part.

A few people just misunderstood and took it the wrong way, but for some reason don’t want to let go of the false accusation. 🤷
 
I honestly don’t understand what the huge fuss is over that lady’s post. **Because you are not a hard working guy that is having jabs thrown at you in the name of “getting credit for what a woman does.” **She’s already assured repeatedly that no resentment whatsoever was meant on her part.

A few people just misunderstood and took it the wrong way, but for some reason don’t want to let go of the false accusation. 🤷
She stills stands by her opinion that a man’s life doesn’t change when children come along, **implying **that we have such an easy, carefree life…and women are left to pick up *all *the extra duties…while we “enjoy our lives” and they “rarely get to” do the same. It’s insulting and demeaning to say that we just go about things business as usual after we have kids. It’s BS is what it really is…

This thread wasn’t supposed to become tit for tat, but it has, and that is a shame. I find it interesting that no men were on the other thread complaining about how much we do for women while they don’t do nearly as much as us…but one of the first posts on this thread was doing just that.
 
She stills stands by her opinion that a man’s life doesn’t change when children come along, **implying **that we have such an easy, carefree life…and women are left to pick up *all *the extra duties…while we “enjoy our lives” and they “rarely get to” do the same. It’s insulting and demeaning to say that we just go about things business as usual after we have kids. It’s BS is what it really is…

This thread wasn’t supposed to become tit for tat, but it has, and that is a shame. I find it interesting that no men were on the other thread complaining about how much we do for women while they don’t do nearly as much as us…but one of the first posts on this thread was doing just that.
Very well said.
 
Actually, your first sentence is incorrect… Read post #48, the last line. Thats part of what I was responding to. I simply responded to the continual feedback given to me. There was no misunderstanding on my part. I didn’t accept how men were presented in the post, but you did. As a matter of fact the poster “stands by her posts”.
I stand corrected. What I meant to say is that nowhere is it implied that you personally do nothing for your wife. To be honest, that particular reply seems to be aimed at WhiteSheep more than you because he is the one that talked about how little the women he knows do.

As to a misunderstanding
(Snip)
I stand by my posts. Those are the things I do. I was NOT asked to list the things my husband does. As someone wrote,it was not meant to be a competition until a few very defensive guys objected to giving women credit where credit was due. I am writing about MY experience and that of almost every (married) woman that I know.
(Snip)
Taking this as an explanation of the disputed post it is pretty clear that ladyofshalott believes that her post is not competitive and is simply a statement of what women do. I admit that her tone is hardly friendly and endearing, but maybe you could take her at her word that she is not trying to offend and was simply answering the question at hand? It is very interesting, as someone else already pointed out, that had the disputed post been written by a man about his wife there would have been no complaints about it. Is it really that hard to let something go after someone clarifies that they did not intend any insult?
 
Yes, I am very happily married. Wow, I can’t believe I just got hit on online! :cool: 😉

I do think that love is an obligation sometimes. But please read what you quoted in your reply to me. I have a problem with sacrifices being made out of obligation with resentment behind them rather than making the same sacrifices (which can clearly be obligatory at times) out of love for another person. BIG difference.
As I said, at many points in my marriage, I could have and would have written that post from ladyshallott. Probably even with a nastier edge to it.

Here’s the thing: I did it to myself! I took on more and more of the home stuff, hoping in vain that my husband would then feel freer to work less and relax more. Didn’t work, he just worked more. I got bitter and resentful over time. Instead of talking to him about the various jobs I did, so we could work out a more equitable solution, I kept silent and seethed. Martyrdom is my default setting, I think. :rolleyes: And action is his default setting. For whatever reason, he needs to be accomplishing something just about every waking hour. I thought if I did X, he would surely change into someone just like me…

If I could see it as HIS fault that I was overworked, I could feel justified in my resentment and I didn’t have to count my blessings or look at my own expectations of him, and of marriage in general. If everything was his fault, then I could wear the white hat and look good, while he was in the black hat and was always the Bad Guy.

If you take ladyshallot’s original response, AND add all the bill paying, the cooking, cleaning, ALL the childcare AND the car care, ALL the holiday preparations, all of the house-related chores like arranging for repairs, major renovations, etc. and managing workers, then you have my job description. Superwoman doesn’t even begin to cover it. I even mowed the lawn for a while. (I actually like that chore but hubby didn’t want the neighbors to see me doing it. 😃 )

Yes, my husband’s life did pretty much continue as it had always been, after we had children, but that was MY choice. By taking on all of what might have been his responsibilities, I only gave him the leeway to spend even MORE time at work - the exact opposite of what I imagined would happen.

It’s not fair to him that I blame him for MY choices. If I had been truly unhappy with my choices, he would have supported my working outside the house at just about any point in time while our sons grew up. And, if I had ASKED him for more help, he would have tried. It wouldn’t have been easy, since he had just about -0- role models for being a good father, while he was young anyway. But he loves our sons as much as I do (man, that’s hard to type!) and he would do anything for them.

So, like trying to hold onto sand, or nail jello to a tree, I’ve found myself standing here empty-handed, without any more resentments against this man that I love very dearly. I got what I think is the best part of the deal anyway - I got to be home with my sons and I have a HECK of a lot of dear memories, things I hope never to forget, and I know that I have truly given it my all to be the best mother that my sons could ask for. It’s the least I could have done, in return for God’s trust in me to raise them for Him.

I hope all the Martyred Moms out there can lay down their crosses and find some peace.
 
She stills stands by her opinion that a man’s life doesn’t change when children come along, **implying **that we have such an easy, carefree life…and women are left to pick up *all *the extra duties…while we “enjoy our lives” and they “rarely get to” do the same. It’s insulting and demeaning to say that we just go about things business as usual after we have kids. It’s BS is what it really is…

This thread wasn’t supposed to become tit for tat, but it has, and that is a shame. I find it interesting that no men were on the other thread complaining about how much we do for women while they don’t do nearly as much as us…but one of the first posts on this thread was doing just that.
Take is as you like, I will let the poster defend herself if she wants.

She already said her post was taken the wrong way and that she meant no insult, but apparently you don’t believe her. I’m sorry you feel the need to come to this thread and fight with a ton of women.

But what can ya do. 🤷

(I would watch what you say though. Referring to another’s post as being BS isn’t the most charitable thing in the world…)
 
I stand corrected. What I meant to say is that nowhere is it implied that you personally do nothing for your wife. To be honest, that particular reply seems to be aimed at WhiteSheep more than you because he is the one that talked about how little the women he knows do.

As to a misunderstanding

Taking this as an explanation of the disputed post it is pretty clear that ladyofshalott believes that her post is not competitive and is simply a statement of what women do. I admit that her tone is hardly friendly and endearing, but maybe you could take her at her word that she is not trying to offend and was simply answering the question at hand? It is very interesting, as someone else already pointed out, that had the disputed post been written by a man about his wife there would have been no complaints about it. Is it really that hard to let something go after someone clarifies that they did not intend any insult?
It is not hard to let go of if the situation warrants that. Maybe you were not fully understanding my opposition to her post. She states"these are the things I do for my husband". Had that been the title of the thread one might comment nicely and move on. But the actual title is, “what women help men with”. Men, not, a man. She claims she did not mean to generalize but the whole thrust of this thread, as repeated ad naseum, is about highlighting women and what they do for MEN.

I think most women would be upset if they were presented as having some la de da job and only focusing on “girly” things. Men love the help women give them but they also don’t want to look like a characterture of 1955 which they are most certainly far from.
 
It is not hard to let go of if the situation warrants that. Maybe you were not fully understanding my opposition to her post. She states"these are the things I do for my husband". Had that been the title of the thread one might comment nicely and move on. But the actual title is, “what women help men with”. Men, not, a man. She claims she did not mean to generalize but the whole thrust of this thread, as repeated ad naseum, is about highlighting women and what they do for MEN.

I think most women would be upset if they were presented as having some la de da job and only focusing on “girly” things. Men love the help women give them but they also don’t want to look like a characterture of 1955 which they are most certainly far from.
Yes, they would, but she has clarified that she did not intend her post to pit the sexes against each other, so she has clarified that that is not what she intended to do. Relax, let it go.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top