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My husband and I have had problems in the past, we did separate twice – the second time what saved our marriage was his conversion AND his seeking treatment for 30+ years of untreated ADD. I do not think the treatment alone would have done it – I do know that it takes prayer and the sacraments in big bunches!
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Thank you for sharing. Yes, I feel at the very least there should be a kabash on having young friends over to the house.

As for sending the kids to live with someone else for a bit, again, that windo is nearly closed since summer is almost over. To send them to another place during school time is too unnerving for the children…it might even require sending them to another school altogether.

When you separated both times…were children involved? How dit that work out? What did you say to the kids?
 
In my opinion there is too much opinion on this thread. Little has been backed up by the teachings of the Church or by citing Scripture. If we as Catholics can do no better than this, how are we different than the world around us?

Let us try and keep in mind that we are not the authority here and in the end our opinions do not matter. We as Catholics look to the Church to teach us and to help us form our consiousnesses according to Church teaching. Jesus established the Church as the authority so we would not be devisive and each left up to his or her own interpetations of Scripture and God’s will. Do forget this is to act not much different than the people around us.

We should be more forgiving, more compassionate, have more empathy, and be less judgemental. Those things are clearly not demonstrated on this thread. For instance “tough love”, please tell me where this is described in the Bible or Magisterium. I’m not saying it is wrong but enlighten me how we as Catholics should use this concept.
 
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We should be more forgiving, more compassionate, have more empathy, and be less judgemental. Those things are clearly not demonstrated on this thread. For instance “tough love”, please tell me where this is described in the Bible or Magisterium. I’m not saying it is wrong but enlighten me how we as Catholics should use this concept.
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What I meant when I said “tough love” was that since this man is not acknowledging his sin, he needs a wake-up call before his sons are irretrievably ruined. I also strongly feel the children should not be exposed to his perversion and need to be away from him until he gets help. The longer they stay, waiting until he is willing to get help, the worse it will be for them.

Please see:
Matthew 18:6
Luke 17:1-3
 
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In my opinion there is too much opinion on this thread. Little has been backed up by the teachings of the Church or by citing Scripture.
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Pretty emotional issue and so much depends on the details. I would seek advice from a good Catholic priest. If you do not have anyone whom you trust in this area, might I suggest you contact the diocese and see if they can give you a good referal to someone with whom you can speak and get a detailed answer. If he is to overcome these shackles, he too must have good spiritual guidance.

As far as the Catechism, separation and divorce are allowed specifically for the welfare of children and protection of the assets and to care for them (I do not have my CCC with me for the #), but allowed does not neccesarily mean prudent. If there is a reasonable chance of repentance and reform, then mercy and forgiveness is required, if we ever wish to again pray the “Our Father.”
 
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This thread is now closed. Thanks to all who participated in the discussion.
 
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