First, I came back to say that this is exactly the attitude that marginalizes “those liberal Catholics.” And exactly what I am talking about.
They’re kind of late to start out on the Episcopalian, watering-down routine. As Servant says, the liberal churches are starting to dry up. They had their day, when there were plenty of folks raised in real churches who wanted to do Church Lite. The younger generations see no reason at all to go to a church – unless they come from a strong and serious faith.A new church? Great! And when we start, we’ll call ourselves ANGLICANS!!
Maybe these people need to take a trip to England and take a tour of all the empty Anglican churches. Or others now turned into nightclubs.
Sad? Yes. Terrifying or even surprising? Not really.
I’ve posed this question before. If and when Ben16 decides enough is enough, I can see a schism among liberal American Catholics.
How so?
I think part of this problem then begins with how heavily we are suffering by lack of vocations. My parish is more traditional. But, my parish shares ONE priest with another Parish in our community. In order for our community to have enough Parishes to support the population, we have gathered together in a “cluster” of five Parishes with only three full time priests! How do the people get taught and remain on the right path without a shepherd?
Unity at the expense of obedience and doctine is a false unity.
It was me who said this. I wouldn’t say people who go to Mass once or twice a year do so because of faith, but do so because of there own personal family traditions. Of course, depends on who the people are. I speak of my own experiance and people I know of. I do know of people who go to Mass only on Christmas. They make a big announcement of how they “don’t go every week” that they have “more important things to do.” Thankfully, this one person I know sends their children to Catholic school. But is clueless of what the faith teaches. How can I say this in good conscience…well…in a conversation this person told me they were thinking about taking their children to see Angels and Demons because of their Catholic education “they would understand and learn something” from the movie. These are elementary kids I am talking about.
My question is what do you mean by “liberal” Catholics? Those like Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden?
liberal catholics to me are those who think we should already have female priests and hope that someday we will. nancy pelosi, joe biden are two examples of liberal catholics.
well what i said was, that those Catholics who do not accept the teachings of the Church and her authority and decides to form groups to fight the Church should not be called Catholics. we know of Catholics groups who wants to ordain women. we know of groups who wants to marry gay people. i hope this clarify.
Okay, then I am against those “liberal” Catholics. Sorry to offend. I think they do a disservice to the Catholic church.
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From reading all the posts, it sounds like Our Lady’s warning is happening right before our eyes.I am having a problem seeing what is so bad about this.
it is the Church’s job.
You really don’t have a problem with “communities could each be Catholic in their own way”???!!!
Excellent point. The worst of the crisis is over, now comes the rebuilding after the desecration (like Europe after WWII).
I am as well. As long as Churches obey and maintain communion their Patriarchs and bishops, and keep the faith which has been handed down and presented in the Holy Councils and in the living Magisterium…then they are Catholic, regardless of rite or whatever particular expression of the Catholic faith they hold to.
