I know their is a biblical reference there somewhere, but it is so distorted from anything actually in the bible that I have doubts.
Can you please provide the actual biblical passages involving elephants?
Well, Jesus used “camels” in his saying, but since the average American lives a much richer life – maybe more than 20 fold the level of rich people back then (we probably use up and throw away more resources in a month than they King Herod in 5 years) – I think we need to go to “elephant.”
Please specify who exactly ‘we’ is.
I have no recollection of engaging in global warming.
Lacking super powers, heating an entire planet would seem a task I am not up to.
Mainly Americans, since we emit about double the GHGs Europeans do, and 20+ times more than people of India and Mali, and historically the U.S. has emitted much more per capita than any other country over the past 200 years. “We” does include most people on planet earth, but mainly Americans. Something no politician will ever tell you or perhaps any priest or preacher (afterall, they need that money in the plate), but this is being brutally honest and frank, which will probably turn people off, but I don’t like lying.
So my descendents lives may be cut short if I leave the light on?
Seems like you are arguing the absurd.
Yes, plus the myriad of other things we refuse to reduce, reuse, recycle, or refuse to go on alt energy when afforable and feasible. Some estimate Americans could reduce their GHG emissions by 60% or more without lowering their living standards or productivity, and save money to boot. That 60%+ excessive GHG emissions of us 300,000 Americans, added to not-as-excessive emissions of others around the world, could send earth systems into runaway warming, AGW spiralling out of control from positive feedbacks, and end all life on earth, or at least a huge portion of life, maybe 50%, maybe 75% (including our descendents and food – which comes from living things).
It is a poor analogy to attempt to equate any waste of natural resources with the deliberate murder of another human being.
It is deliberate, bec we KNOW we are killing people through our environmental harms (complex and complicated tho they may be), even if these harms are a by-product and not the main intent of our behaviors. Refusing to listen to the scientists does NOT get us off that hook. It might not be as egregious or dramatic or a media event as one person slitting another person’s throat, since it is many people contributing to the death of many people who are perhaps remote in place and time – but it results in death of people, whether now or in the future. The more proximate causes of their deaths might be heat stroke, starvation, vector disease, “natural” disasters, etc, but we people emitting GHGs are the ultimate cause. And I don’t think we can get by with blaming it on the devil either.
No, the buck stops with us “fallen nature” sons & daughters of Adam and Cain. Tho we do have recourse to God’s abundant grace and help, if we would simply turn to God in prayer and ask for it. He will help us find solutions to AGW (and other problems) and help us implement them – but much much prayer is required.
Pointing out the inconsistancy and illogic of a piece of research is not slander.
Climate scientists are not inconsistant nor illogical – that’s a really harsh claim. You need to read the actual studies they publish, which are very high quality.
What makes you say they are inconsistant and illogical – except that it is based on some disinformation put out by the Exxon/Koch/Scaife-funded climate denial industry (which is now being sued for their lies).
Furthermore, the natural greenhouse effect (without which life would be impossible on earth, it would be so cold and has been known about for over 200 years) is based on the laws of physics, and it is quite logical to project that our additional gigatons of GHG emissions would warm the planet, even without observational evidence (which is very solidly now in).
JPII and I didn’t need extreme sci certainty on AGW when we started reducing our GHGs and trying to get others to do likewise 22 years ago. However, bec of the complexity of earth systems, it wasn’t until 1995 that sci reached 95% certainty on AGW, even tho they projected it would be happening for over 100 years in light of increasing industrialization & GHG emissions.
If people weren’t paying attention back in 1990 to JPII or in 1995 when AGW reached sci certainty, or to the ever-growing scientific supports for this claim over the years since (the sci is extremely robust now and AGW is a well-established fact) or to BXVI and his many admonitions to mitigate AGW, then I’d hope and pray people start paying attention now, and doing whatever one can to reduce their GHGs, at least those measures that save them money without lowering their living standards. Please, please, please, pretty please.
