Thongs on beaches, OnlyFans, Wap etc...is this where our society is heading?

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I live in Australia and so many women under 35 now are wearing thongs (known as gstring bikinis here) or those “half bum out” bikinis on the beach.
Personally, being of Europeans background and living in the climate/culture of Australia, my own standards of modesty have never been strict. If chest, and bum, and “front bum” (I didn’t know how to word it for a Catholic forum) are covered, this to me is modest.
But these new bikinis are too much even for me.

I must be getting old, because young women don’t even seem to perceive those bikinis as being sexual at all. It’s just “everyday” for them. Not to mention hygiene factors when they use public gym equipment or sit on stools at the beach, and then others get the “joy” of using it after them.

There were some stories here recently where women complained on news, current affairs programs etc, because they were wearing these at their apartment complex pools, and a security guard told then they must put something else to cover.
The security guard was Muslim and it is predominantly Muslims that say anything here in this regard, alot of other Australians just have a mindset of “if people don’t like it they should look away”.

Another “tragedy” seems to me the number of young women that are joining OnlyFans. It’s like there’s a mentality of “I can get so much money doing this so why work normal job” etc.
For me the tragedy isn’t so much what they are selling (this has existed since the beginning of time), the tragedy is more that it’s no longer being seen/recognised as porn/sex industry. It’s like things have become so normalized that people can no longer see things for what they are?

Even on Etsy of all places, the photos for some of the thing they are selling now are so “full on” and graphic.
Ok, if they feel the need to sell men’s pink lace g-string, but does everyone have to see a photo of “him” wearing it? I think you get the theme of what I am talking about. And these arn’t a one of. There’s a lot of these types of listings.

Is this just how society will be now?

Sensual and sexy doesn’t have to mean these things.

Am I just getting old?
 
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I believe the kind of bikinis you’re describing originated here in Brazil about fifty years ago. When women were first allowed to go topless on beaches in European countries, Brazilian women tried to do the same thing, until the government very firmly told them No. So they retaliated by exposing a different part of their body, that was still invariably covered up at that time, even in topless Europe.
 
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The best antidote for a decaying culture is much prayer and sacrifice. Pray alone, and pray with others. Go to adoration of the Blessed Sacrament when they have it at your parish.

Our Blessed Mother came to us so many times over the centuries to ask for prayer and sacrifice!
 
Yes, it’s becoming like on Brazil beaches. Just two, three years ago and this wasn’t worn here, now it seems that “everyone” is wearing them.

It is strange to me that the Brazilian government said no to the top part, but ok to the bottom part uncovered…
 
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Rozellelily said:
I live in Australia and so many women under 35 now are wearing thongs
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I read that in France Muslim women were given citations or arrested for wearing beachwear that was too modest. Generally, I find that Muslim women dress quite modestly.
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Is this just how society will be now?
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Western society yes. But I don’t see this happening yet in Islamic societies. Actually, a number of mosques have been built in this area and Islam is increasing in numbers while attendance at Roman Catholic Churches has been falling. Polls show that many married Catholic couples do not observe the Roman Catholic teaching on artificial birth control.
 
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In 1946, Micheline Bernardini (former nude dancer) was hired to model Louis Reard’s first bikini design which fully exposed the buttocks, because runway models then did not want to model it. So there was a sense at that time that it was immodest.
 
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Rozellelily said:
my own standards of modesty have never been strict. If chest, and bum, and “front bum” (I didn’t know how to word it for a Catholic forum) are covered, this to me is modest.
But these new bikinis are too much even for me.
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I mean honestly, I personally see no meaningful difference between one kind of bikini and another.

But I’m probably what you’d consider ‘strict’. 😉 Have been since I was a little girl. I hated being forced to strip to what is basically nothing more than underwear made in a different textured fabric, to be allowed to play in the water. I felt even back then that it made no sense to expose this much of my body at a beach, if I shouldn’t in a town square. I never heard a persuasive reason to justify being forced to strip like that, even as a child (though obviously I had to obey my parents and do it, and later still wore ‘normal’ bikinis in public as a young adult due to social pressure and not wanting to seem ‘weird’ for covering up.

Now if I go to the beach, I cover up (e.g. with a swimdress or long board shorts). And I have so much more fun playing in the water, when I don’t have to worry about being leered at or how attractive my basically-naked body looks in public. Also I think swimdresses are really pretty!

Frankly I’m thrilled with Muslims making it ‘okay again’ to be traditionally modest and cover up. 😉 they pioneer some neat swim styles, too!

And I honestly find it a little funny (I mean this with respect, not disrespect; just, cheerfully funny) to hear someone say they were okay with bikini type A but aren’t okay with bikini type B. Being totally outside the world of thinking any bikini is reasonable (unless a person lives in a culture where public nudity is somehow within modesty norms in general), it’s curious to me to see where people draw the line. (And to imagine someone growing up with these new bikinis and thinking “Well I’m not strict so these are okay…” but then thinking some even newer reduction in bikini coverage (if that’s even possible) is the bridge too far).
 
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Hear, hear. Also, my apologies, due to your username I always assumed you were a man. 😋
 
As a guy tbh I think it’s more attractive to be within reason on swimwear anyway (not that that’s what matters). I’ve never really wanted to be walking around on a nude beach tbh.

Why not have functional swimwear? That’s just my take.
 
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The Venerable Archbishop Fulton Sheen teaches so well on “modern” society. He teaches that nudity is associated with the demonic. Remember that our first parents were nude - without shame. Only after guilt applied did they cover themselves. Therefore, un-covering is denying that guilt in some sense. And, the ease with which souls violate their own dignity shows that the serpent is indeed the most subtle of creatures.
 
In my view, it’s not really such a big deal what people prefer to wear at the beach. The porno industry is something else again, however. If young women and men (even older women and men) want to celebrate and flaunt their sexuality, more power to them. Sexuality and the human body are nothing dirty.

I was just watching the American Masters series yesterday and a program devoted to “Mae West, Dirty Blonde.” She was hot stuff in her day, while today she would be considered rather mild. But the film historians who studied her life and career pointed out that she emancipated women from being ashamed of their body and from being subservient to the desires of men. When the censors came around, however, with the Hollywood sex code in 1934, she had to reinvent herself or be banned. My larger point is that some portion of society is always going to believe that women should conceal their sexuality from the public, or else they will corrupt society, particularly lustfully inclined men and children. I am not one of those people who believe this. A little sexual display, I think, is good for most people. It’s part of our humanity and nature, and it is not something evil or shameful.
 
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sealabeag said:
Hear, hear. Also, my apologies, due to your username I always assumed you were a man. 😋
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Haha no worries, the reasoning for my username is obscure. I think most people didn’t realize until they read one of my comments where I specifically mention being female, or that thread that invited people to explain the reasons behind our usernames.
 
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If chest, and bum, and “front bum” (I didn’t know how to word it for a Catholic forum)
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😩 Just say “vagina”. It’s a medical term. It’s not a dirty word; it’s the correct term for a piece of human anatomy.

“Front bum…” 🤢
 
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In my view, it’s not really such a big deal what people prefer to wear at the beach. The porno industry is something else again, however. If young women and men (even older women and men) want to celebrate and flaunt their sexuality, more power to them. Sexuality and the human body are nothing dirty.

I was just watching the American Masters series yesterday and a program devoted to “Mae West, Dirty Blonde.” She was hot stuff in her day, while today she would be considered rather mild. But the film historians who studied her life and career pointed out that she emancipated women from being ashamed of their body and from being subservient to the desires of men. When the censors came around, however, with the Hollywood sex code in 1934, she had to reinvent herself or be banned. My larger point is that some portion of society is always going to believe that women should conceal their sexuality from the public, or else they will corrupt society, particularly lustfully inclined men and children. I am not one of those people who believe this. A little sexual display, I think, is good for most people. It’s part of our humanity and nature, and it is not something evil or shameful.
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Inciting lust knowingly or unknowingly is ok? If your not Catholic fair enough thats your position but certainly wouldn’t be in line with the Christian world-view what so ever
 
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