Those Crazy Russians!

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Similar things happen to them in the last years.
He must have lost his way.
I remembered how the Ukrainian armed forces sometimes take Russian soldiers as a captives on the border of the self-proclaimed Donetsk republic.
When they are asked a question - how did you come to be here?
They answer, - “we were lost.”
 
The flyby, however, was completely legal and in accordance with the 1992 Treaty on Open Skies, which lets countries that are part of the agreement to surveil the other member countries from the air, Politico reported, citing the State Department.

In the last 15 years, the US and Russia have done this a combined 165 times, Politico said.

“The missions happen on a semi-routine basis,” a Pentagon official told Politico. “They usually come in and they list out what locations they want to fly over … We put together the flight plan and with a few exceptions – safety-wise or weather-wise – they are allowed to fly over pretty much the entire territory.”
So I’m not concerned, nothing suspect or sinister in it.

I’m more annoyed about the sanctions on Russia over supposed ‘meddling’ (in what way?) in the USA election, which is unjust.
Take back the Rainbow for God ������
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God Bless

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I’m more annoyed about the sanctions on Russia over supposed ‘meddling’ (in what way?) in the USA election, which is unjust.

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I’m confused. If Russia’s meddling in the U.S. election was unjust, as you stated, then why are you annoyed about the sanctions?
 
I’m more annoyed about the sanctions on Russia over supposed ‘meddling’ (in what way?) in the USA election, which is unjust.
There is a new thread today in which a writer for a liberal magazine deeply questions whether the Russians hacked the DNC at all.

If the Russians didn’t, then this country is acting in an incredibly foolish way with the sanctions.
 
The US has meddled in the elections of so many countries and now they complain about Russia meddling in their’s.😃
 
When a fantasy reaches a certain mass, it takes on a life of it’s own. The whole russian interference think has passed that milestone months ago.
 
There is a new thread today in which a writer for a liberal magazine deeply questions whether the Russians hacked the DNC at all.

If the Russians didn’t, then this country is acting in an incredibly foolish way with the sanctions.
How so? Hacking the DNC and hacking the election are similar, yet not exactly the same.
 
The US has meddled in the elections of so many countries and now they complain about Russia meddling in their’s.😃
It’s all fun and games, until someone loses an eye. :blackeye:
 
How so? Hacking the DNC and hacking the election are similar, yet not exactly the same.
I, for one, am still not persuaded that the Russians hacked either one. Maybe one of these times definitive evidence will come to light, but so far it has just been conclusions.
 
I’m confused. If Russia’s meddling in the U.S. election was unjust, as you stated, then why are you annoyed about the sanctions?
I never stated it was unjust because it depends what one means by ‘meddling’, the point is, what kind of ‘meddling’ are we talking about? this is treated with silence.

Did they put a gun to someone’s head telling them who to vote for? Did they hack into voting machines and change peoples votes?

Heck, if Russia is guilty of ‘meddling’ then you better put sanctions on me too, because I’m from Australia and I supported Trump in the election on these forums.

I hope this has helped

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
There is a new thread today in which a writer for a liberal magazine deeply questions whether the Russians hacked the DNC at all.

If the Russians didn’t, then this country is acting in an incredibly foolish way with the sanctions.
I agree, and they have no proof. That’s why these sanctions over supposed ‘meddling’ are totally unjust.

God Bless You

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
I, for one, am still not persuaded that the Russians hacked either one. Maybe one of these times definitive evidence will come to light, but so far it has just been conclusions.
bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-13/russian-breach-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-elections

Russia’s cyberattack on the U.S. electoral system before Donald Trump’s election was far more widespread than has been publicly revealed, including incursions into voter databases and software systems in almost twice as many states as previously reported.

In Illinois, investigators found evidence that cyber intruders tried to delete or alter voter data. The hackers accessed software designed to be used by poll workers on Election Day, and in at least one state accessed a campaign finance database. Details of the wave of attacks, in the summer and fall of 2016, were provided by three people with direct knowledge of the U.S. investigation into the matter. In all, the Russian hackers hit systems in a total of 39 states, one of them said.

The scope and sophistication so concerned Obama administration officials that they took an unprecedented step – complaining directly to Moscow over a modern-day “red phone.” In October, two of the people said, the White House contacted the Kremlin on the back channel to offer detailed documents of what it said was Russia’s role in election meddling and to warn that the attacks risked setting off a broader conflict.

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Illinois, which was among the states that gave the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security almost full access to investigate its systems, provides a window into the hackers’ successes and failures.

In early July 2016, a contractor who works two or three days a week at the state board of elections detected unauthorized data leaving the network, according to Ken Menzel, general counsel for the Illinois board of elections. The hackers had gained access to the state’s voter database, which contained information such as names, dates of birth, genders, driver’s licenses and partial Social Security numbers on 15 million people, half of whom were active voters. As many as 90,000 records were ultimately compromised.

But even if the entire database had been deleted, it might not have affected the election, according to Menzel. Counties upload records to the state, not the other way around, and no data moves from the database back to the counties, which run the elections. The hackers had no way of knowing that when they attacked the state database, Menzel said.

The state does, however, process online voter registration applications that are sent to the counties for approval, Menzel said. When voters are added to the county rolls, that information is then sent back to the state and added to the central database. This process, which is common across states, does present an opportunity for attackers to manipulate records at their inception.
 
What am I missing? What does “take the rainbow back for God” mean and how does it relate to a routine intelligence gathering exercise?

ETA: I partially get it, it looks like an anti-gay thing (A Christian Org Is Trying to ‘Take Back the Rainbow,’ and the Internet Is Snickering). What does this have to do with the story though. The only thing I can figure is that Russia is anti-gay and something :confused:
I do not know what slogans and what kind of sexual orientation the author supports, but the fact that Russia is annexing the territories of other sovereign states, interferes as a world policeman by military means in the conflict of other states,terrorizes neighbors’ by threats , all these completely discredits Putin’s Russia.
For example in the case of Ukraine, Russia is not just decides the fate of Ukraine and even denies the existential authenticity of Ukrainian state.
Russia is not a legal state. Russia is the authoritarian regime and often only those who have more power are right. Sadists and murderers, all-permissible in their terror, such as Ivan the Terrible, Stalin are brought into the rank of heroes and positive characters of great-power.
The leader-despot is a normal political system.
One cannot help noticing that New-USSR is being built only in another shell.
How can you put up with all this?
 
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