Thought experiment. What if it was one day proven 200% there’s no God?

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And no matter how such hypotheses play out, they always come up against a li’l ol’ brick wall known as…(drum roll…)
“infinite regression.”
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No, that is just fallacy wrongfully defined as knowledge.
So, in other words, there really is no such thing as ‘knowledge’ since, by your definition, anything that might later be disproven is merely fallacy. Isn’t that the logical conclusion we must reach, if we believe your assertion here?
 
So, in other words, there really is no such thing as ‘knowledge’ since, by your definition, anything that might later be disproven is merely fallacy. Isn’t that the logical conclusion we must reach, if we believe your assertion here?
In the majority of cases, probably. I think humans can have a sense of different levels of certainty whether knowledge is temporary or more/less permanent based on complexity, etc. So I think it is important to define the level of certainty when speaking about knowledge.
 
I think there is a conclusion we can draw with fairly good certainty…@anon10271182 will not be liking any of my posts!
 
Not something–someone. The unmoved mover, uncaused cause, only necessary being, the one and only Father, Son, and Holy Ghost…
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That’s a big misunderstanding. God isn’t the one sending people to hell, people continually reject God through their sins and by being unrepentant.
 
Well, we’ve seen the atheist “varsity” here on CAF many times, and they’ve all come up goose eggs…
 
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NO! God did not write a book of laws and leave it for us to argue over. He left a Church, Led by his Vicar who holds the keys.
It was a metaphor. The books aren’t literal books they represent the different religions and denomenations and would include holy books, human writings, tradition, symbols, etc. Other religions have their holy men also, and adherents who follow them. My analogy did include people advocating for each book.
Jesus Christ gave us a Church that is here to guide us. As another poster said. The Bible does not contradict itself (as far as I know). I do not know what the rest of your analogy has to do with the Catholic faith
The books represent different faiths not just holy books.

A Muslim would tell me his holy book also contains no contradictions.
It’s a red herring, designed to show that God is unfair.
Absolutely false. I believe the situation humans find themselves in on Earth is misstated and mischaracterized. I’m stating that the way humans present their ideas of God makes god look unfair, which is a quality those same people would never attribute to him.
There are some Christians who think that this is how God acts… but you’re not going to hold us accountable to their mistaken belief, are you?
The analogy is that each religion has a path to salvation or heaven or whatever is promised, ‘jail’ is whatever you’re denied or whatever punishment you receive for not following that path in some form.
 
That’s a big misunderstanding. God isn’t the one sending people to hell, people continually reject God through their sins and by being unrepentant.
No it’s not a big misunderstanding. Apologetics has been forced to retreat on hell as far back as it possibly can because the doctrine is so at odds with logic. It has gone from midevil times focus of punishment to modern day apologetics saying people beg God to throw them in hell and they lock the door behind them. If hell is as terrible as it’s described then no one, not one single person with an informed decision would choose it. It runs totally counter to human nature. Look I understand why people put hell as being a choice because you have to. Catholicism is married to the idea of hell now and they have to spin it in some way, but the fact remains that there are many religions all contradicting each other with an omnipetent God who won’t set the record straight but will burn you forever if your on the wrong side. It sounds so much like a human invention it’s not even funny.
 
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Existing for infinite time? Yes, but doing so without ontological dependence on an uncaused cause? No. The universe clearly cannot be its own cause as it is contingent (that is, it’s not logically necessary for it (1) to exist and (2) exist in its current arrangment as opposed to another arrangement (even if that other arrangement is only different by one subatomic particle)) and it is not metaphysically simple.
If physical can’t be eternal, then how are we supposed to live in all eternity in our glorified bodies?
That’s not quite what I said. I have two points of clarification. When God is said to be eternal, it doesn’t only mean existing for infinite time, it means also that He is unchanging. As for physical things, or anything that is composed in some way, they can have existed for infinite time in the past and infinite time in the future. But they are not intrinsically necessary and still require a cause. So there is no contradiction between what I said previously (that something [say, the universe, or series of universes] could exist for infinite time but would be ontologically dependent on some cause) and the idea of living in a glorified body forever.
 
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