Thoughts on 53% Divorce Rate?

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I think there are many different reasons…I was a teen and young adult during the sixties…I remember growing up with mom at home and dad at work…same with all the friends I had…then the revolution started…womens liberation movement…they started breaking down what were male institutions…clubs etc…demanding equality in the workforce…freeing women up to decide their own life choices not reliant on some husband…the sexual revolution…contraception…abortion…divorce…women were further empowered to be masters of their own bodies…and of course men were no better…seeing gender roles disappearing meant they didn’t have to show the same respect they once had for the “weaker sex”…the roles at home were blurred as both mom and dad were working so kids came home to an empty house…with both mom and dad working it was easier to buy their affection by lavishing new toys and clothes on them because they didn’t have the time to spend with them anymore…they didn’t have to save money to buy that fancy new car…TV…new home…they could take out a loan on credit and have it all immediately…so their kids grew up with the same ideals…materialism…the more you had you knew you had made it…impress your friends and neighbors…in the meantime the family unit was breaking down…religion was becoming irrelevant…people didn’t have time for church…didn’t feel a need for God because they could be happy with all that money could buy…God was taken out of schools…the new revolution even crept into churches…how many convents have closed…monasteries…Christianity continues to decline…only a minority of Christians even bother to attend church…it all sounded so good back in the sixties…a new enlightenment that saw people embrace secularism and throw off the shackles of outdated religious practices… inequality and suppression…now those of us who grew up during that time can see how we were sucked into that new enlightened era…and isn’t that just what Satan wanted us to believe…and it worked…but only because God allowed him to sift us like wheat
 
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I agree. Unfortunately America is going the way of western European countries, becoming a so-called Post-Christian society.
 
Henry was seeking an annulment.

When he didn’t get an annulment, then…
 
People might not think it a big deal anymore. It’s sad.
 
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The divorce rate is very difficult to arrive at. To do a true study, one must wait until everyone is dead - and then they can look back and determine how many married couples died.

here is an interesting article discussing various ways of looking at divorce: What is the Actual US Divorce Rate and Risk?

Still, whatever the actual rate, it is sad that it is too high. But there are factors (From this same article that greatly influence the likelihood of divorce:

The major factors that determine a couple’s risk of divorce include:
  • Cohabitation: cohabiting couples have a 50-80 percent higher likelihood of divorce than non-cohabiting couples.
  • Race: the general lifetime risk of divorce is 1.5 percent higher for African American couples than for Whites.
  • Age: those who marry after age eighteen have a 24 percent reduced risk of divorce.
  • Age Difference: marriages where there is a significant difference in age have twice the risk of divorce than those in which the couples are close in age.
  • Education: only 27 percent of college graduates will divorce by middle age.
  • Family Background: having parents who have never divorced reduces divorce risk by 14 percent.
  • Marital History: being previously divorced markedly elevates one’s risk of divorce.
  • Income: having a collective annual household income of $50,000 or more is associated with a 30 percent lower divorce risk.
  • Beliefs: going into a marriage with husband and wife holding a strong personal conviction that marriage is for life protects against divorce.
  • Religion: those with a strong common faith have a 7-14 percent lower risk of divorce. However, having a nominal faith has no protective effect.
  • Childbearing: having one’s first child after marriage reduces divorce risk somewhere between 24 and 66 percent.
  • Desire for Children: a marriage in which the wife desires children but the husband does not is at a 50 percent greater risk of divorce.
  • Sexual History: marrying as non-virgins is associated with “considerably higher” risk of divorce and “dramatically more unstable first marriages.”
  • Smoking: couples in which one partner smokes and the other does not are markedly more likely to divorce compared to couples in which neither spouse does. Marriages in which both smoke were more than twice as likely to dissolve compared with non-smoking couples.
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JanSobieskiIII said:
It’s economically beneficial for women to seek divorce. Our court system rewards it.
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How can taking a single household with a single set of expenses and splitting into two benefit women? Divorce is usually a financial disaster for everyone.
 
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Pride and selfishness are much, much more common reasons for divorce in western culture.
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‘Pride and selfishness’ could include such things as adultery, substance abuse, and financial irresponsibility, or the offended spouse’s reaction to them…
 
After he didn’t get an annulment, then he declared the state as having authority over the Church and freed himself from his marriage, which he did multiple different times (sometimes with disastrous results like beheadings).

Thankfully popes tend to not be married
 
Because if you’re a single mother the state picks up a lot of the tab. You get housing assistance, SNAP, medical, pretty much free student loans etc.

Plus half the marital assets and child support, and go shack up with a new guy who can provide some financial support
 
Henry wasn’t granted an annulment for political reasons. Catherine of Aragon was the daughter of Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain. She was also the Aunt of the Holy Roman Emperor. The marriage was political. Henry VIII’s brother, Arthur Tudor died. Henry VIII married Catherine to secure the English throne for the Tudors. The Church stood firm and lost a nation.
 
I am a divorced single mother and I don’t get housing assistance, SNAP, medical benefits, free student loans, etc. I also got half the marital debt (he spent all the assets and our house was upside down at the time). I do get child support, but it doesn’t come anywhere near to covering half of my child’s costs (it’s supposed to be half, right, he pays half and I pay half?). When she was in daycare (so I could work) it pretty much only covered that portion of things.

The truth is, after divorce, the one who ends up with custody does worse financially. This is true of single fathers as much as single mothers. It’s not a man vs woman thing so much as “the realities of what raising a child actually costs vs. what they state thinks it should cost.”
 
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I’m assuming you actually have a job then? That’s not the kind of situation I’m referring to.
 
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Henry wasn’t granted an annulment for political reasons. Catherine of Aragon was the daughter of Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain. She was also the Aunt of the Holy Roman Emperor.
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And the Pope was effectively (and for a time actually) the prisoner of the Holy Roman Emperor
 
Yes I do. I think you are maybe referring to the fraud that some people do claiming to be a single mom (but they live with the father and collect state benefits). I may be wrong, but I think that’s a whole separate issue and I hate being lumped in with them. I am a good, honest person. I was a loyal and loving wife who basically got conned and then abandoned. I get a lot of flack about being a “divorced single mom” and I just feel I should stand up for myself.
 
JanSobieskiIII said:
Because if you’re a single mother the state picks up a lot of the tab. You get housing assistance, SNAP, medical, pretty much free student loans etc.

Plus half the marital assets and child support, and go shack up with a new guy who can provide some financial support
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You have a pretty jaundiced view of women and those who receive some assistance.

I’m thinking of the divorced mothers I know from previously double - income families. Same income, but now there are two sets of bills to pay, two rent or mortgage payments, two sets of furniture and clothes to buy, less flexibility, so more babysitters for both parents. And mom is probably too busy to date.

Living in a single-parent household is the biggest risk factor for poverty in children. You have to be pretty poor to qualify for aid and the state will take any child support or alimony if the receiving parent gets cash assistance. Where I live, it takes approximately three years just to get on the waitlist for subsidized housing.
 
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Was never meant to be directed at people in your situation. My parents are divorced so I don’t hold any ill will against divorced people.

I’m speaking specifically of dead beats like a cousin of mine who married a guy, left him 6 months later and then immediately shacked up with her new boyfriend.

Of course, she also spent that guy into oblivion and then bailed on him and left him holding the bag on her bills too.
 
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To be fair to you, I am probably a bit defensive about things. I hope there are no hard feelings (I have no hard feelings towards you).
 
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