Thoughts on Marijuana Legalization?

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pnewton said:
I don’t have a strong opinion, as both sides are valid. I guess I lean toward decriminalization, but not legalization, not just for marijuana, but for all drug possession. I think we all know what we are doing now is an abysmal failure. We should look to solutions from other countries.
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I tend to agree here, but my question is: What comes between decriminalization and legalization? Isn’t it one or the other?
 
What? I don’t think that’s the case at all. This argument contains nothing factual. Extremely hard to grow? I can give you a list of marijuana grow houses that have been raided by the police, and hundreds if not thousands of plants have been removed.

So marijuana gets a pass from the FDA. That’s legal? I doubt it.

I’ve had xanax too. No addiction.
 
If the use of legalized marijuana produced the same effect on a person as one or two glasses of alcohol, then I would be fine with it.

I just don’t see this being the case anywhere. We live in a culture which desires marijuana in order to “get baked” —something obviously gravely sinful.

Again, if the state legalized it, and if we could be certain that it would only produce the same inhibiting effect that a few glasses of wine would, then there’s no real issue that I can see. However, considering that our culture today is pretty much devolving into insanity, I can hardly see how legalized marijuana would be a good thing.
 
I agree but try not to generalize. Greed and hedonism exists in high places and the “marijuana industry” is about making money and indulging the flesh. Look up the Opium Wars and you’ll see the parallel.
 
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“Indulging the flesh” seems to be a generalization to me. Perhaps you could expound upon that?

In any event, “indulging the flesh” is clearly condemned by the Church in regards to other activities such as lust and gluttony. It seems that such indulgence is opposite the virtuous practice of mortification and thus cannot be good for a person.

My point though is this: By and large, the use of marijuana in our secular society is intended to cause a sort of drunken state for the user. I used the phrase “getting baked” but it’s the same as if one were to purposefully get drunk —which is both an abuse of the body and a mental inhibitor. Getting high totally suspends one’s ability of right reason without grave cause, which is sinful.

My opinion is that legalizing it is obviously going to cause more harm than good because of the way in which it will be used. However, in theory, one could smoke a joint and not be sinning in the same way one could have a drink and not be sinning.
 
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I hope this clarifies what I mean:

“Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. (Galatians 5:19-21)”

Our body is the Temple of the Holy Spirit. For many, the goal is getting high for the sensation. Here is some additional information:


I reject most of the claims of secular society. I do recognize the social fragmentation that I observed expanding over the last 40 years. This has led to tribalism, not community. This has led to a form of ‘inclusiveness’ that automatically excludes certain others.
 
I didn’t say hard to grow, as in it’s simply hard to get it growing. I said hard to grow legally. In order to do research in the U.S. in a legal manner, you have to obtain the marijuana from someone who is producing the plants legally under U.S. law, or have it legally imported. You can’t just get plants from your local grower and expect to do research on them without being shut down and arrested.

A 2min google search of what a Schedule I drug entails would show you exactly what I’m saying.
 
There are so many Facebook videos of children and adults who seizure uncontrollably, and when the cannabis oil is put into their mouths, they stop shaking, and nothing else works. Parkinson’s, seizures, epilepsy, it calms them right down.
 
I believe that the societal milieu contains vestiges of Protestant Puritanism, and that general sentiment has spread throughout the world because we are the superpower. We have wine in our central worship. We are not puritans. Wine is a powerful drug, and many who have tried cannabis would argue that cannabis is less inebriating than wine. Vis a vis wine, cannabis use permitted. We are far from puritans.
 
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I even believe that in the divine economy of salvation there are reasons for pscilocybrn and LSD, maybe to shake up an atheist into the possibility of a belief in God or a higher power. Will that be championed by the US constitution? No.
 
And I believe not every people will get the same reaction taking them. Some are just getting bad side effects both physically and mentally.
 
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And I believe not every people will get the same reaction taking them. Some are just getting bad side effects both physically and mentall
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Legal regulation could help some of that, at least by ensuring purity and telling us the approximate chemical ratios in a given strain.

But the rest, well, that’s pretty much drugs for you, legal or not. The mental health medicine set is notorious for that sort of thing.
 
State and Federal government regulation is here to stay. Personally, I do not do drugs or alcohol. My thing is to eat as healthy as possible, stay in shape, and attend to physical, mental, and spiritual health and well-being. Moreover, alcohol and drugs cost a lot of money, which I would much rather spend on healthier pursuits. Just a personal preference. It works for me.
 
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