Thousands protest immigration proposal

[LCMS_No_More]

You seem to be missing the point of my point. Not unexpected, though because the point I made was absolutely correct and true and can’t be refuted, so we’ll argue the minutIae out of the context in which the post was made. Sorry, that pig won’t fly.

 

[wabrams]

LCMS_No_More:

You seem to be missing the point of my point. Not unexpected, though because the point I made was absolutely correct and true and can’t be refuted, so we’ll argue the minutIae out of the context in which the post was made. Sorry, that pig won’t fly.

I didn’t know you were infallible; learn something new everyday, huh?

 

[kencando]

Kendy:

No, it is racist to hold them to different laws than were created in past generations when the majority of immigrants were white.

Kendy

Mexicans are of the white race, and native american race.

 

[harinkj]

There are 300 million people in the United States now. Why can’t anyone just go homestead land anymore? Why can’t people afford a house in California and many other places? :bigyikes:

This is not the same country that it was in times past. Countries on the steep part of the growth curve can absorb masses of people because natural resources and opportunities are high. Now they aren’t.

People who want more growth should put their money where their mouth is: send me the cash difference between $80,000 and the median price for a house in Santa Barbara, California of over $1,000,000. When I went to the university there, a middle class house cost $25,000. Sure the immigrant doesn’t bid on any of the $500,000 plus houses, but they push all housing prices up from the bottom. :tsktsk:

Why not help the countries that these people come from instead of using their desperate poor.

• Kathie :bowdown:

 

[Kendy]

harinkj:

People who want more growth should put their money where their mouth is: send me the cash difference between $80,000 and the median price for a house in Santa Barbara, California of over $1,000,000. When I went to the university there, a middle class house cost $25,000. Sure the immigrant doesn’t bid on any of the $500,000 plus houses, but they push all housing prices up from the bottom. :tsktsk:

• Kathie :bowdown:

Rising housing prices in certain areas are not caused by immigrants or any group of poor people for that matter. They are caused by the increasing wealth gap in the United States. As the middle class shrinks, there’s an increasing number of very wealthy Americans…Not that the number of wealthy has increased per say(I would have to check on that), but how wealthy are “the wealthy” has increased. This creates a market of people who are able and willing to pay a lot for very little. The middle class is unable to compete with them.

Kendy

 

[harinkj]

Kendy:

Rising housing prices in certain areas are not caused by immigrants or any group of poor people for that matter. They are caused by the increasing wealth gap in the United States. As the middle class shrinks…Kendy

Why do you think the middle class is shrinking? Outsourcing – sending jobs overseas – and the fact that unskilled wages have been driven into the ground by immigrants. Immigrants from India with H2 b visas have even driven the wages of skilled computer programming jobs down. :tsktsk:

Check out Lou Dobbs on CNN in the evenings.

• Kathie :bowdown:

 

[Kendy]

harinkj:

Why do you think the middle class is shrinking? Outsourcing – sending jobs overseas – and the fact that unskilled wages have been driven into the ground by immigrants. Immigrants from India with H2 b visas have even driven the wages of skilled computer programming jobs down. :tsktsk:

Check out Lou Dobbs on CNN in the evenings.

• Kathie :bowdown:

Well, that’s one of the reasons. Be that as it may, the structure of our government is such that there’s very little that can be done to prevent outsourcing without trampling on private property and commercial rights. And also, given this global economy, there’s only going to be increased migration (the only real choice is not minimize it’s negative aspects by increasing legal opportunities).

And lastly, I personally see no reason why as a Christian, I should prefer the welfare of an American over that of an Indian. If Indians are finding ways to better their lives through honest work, it’s fine by me.

Kendy

 

[TarAshly]

testing testing 1 2 3 sorry! it wouldnt let me post, trying to see if my account still works…testing

TarAshly:

this entire post is rude, antagonistic and not to mention unnessecary, uncharitable and unkind. talk about weakening your arguments.

 

[prv]

W/o taking any issue on new proposals on legislation, why can’t we increase greatly the amount of people allowed to enter, then use these people’s taxes to pay for enforcement–namely doing security checks against those who are outright threats to civilized society—murderers, rapists, thieves, drug lords, and yes, terrorists? Then, after, we’ve screened these potential immigrants, permit them access to our nation as legal aliens, and yes, potential citizens. I don’t see any real reason why caps on immigration should remain in force, other to simply show the biases of the past, which was not based in real security concerns.

 

[Ituyu]

W/o taking any issue on new proposals on legislation, why can’t we increase greatly the amount of people allowed to enter, then use these people’s taxes to pay for enforcement–namely doing security checks against those who are outright threats to civilized society—murderers, rapists, thieves, drug lords, and yes, terrorists? Then, after, we’ve screened these potential immigrants, permit them access to our nation as legal aliens, and yes, potential citizens. I don’t see any real reason why caps on immigration should remain in force, other to simply show the biases of the past, which was not based in real security concerns.

Gee if we did that, we could divert the money in a way that would do some real good in terms of our security and not have to waste billions on a fence and billions more on deporting over 11 million people. Ideas like that would immediately reduce the stress along our southern border which would be essentially underwritten by the applicants themselves. Nah, there’s simply too many people who are bent on enforcing the law, right or wrong. They can’t admit that these laws don’t work and will not work because they go against the God given common sense instinct for survival and in doing so they provide us with the labor we need. We have over 11 million people here illegally and hundreds of thousands have entered each year through our sourthern border yet none of them had anything to do with 9/11. All of a sudden it’s a national priority to get rid of them, all of them. Why is that?