Tim Staples debating Mike Gendron

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myfavoritmartin said:
Of course this is not just your church! I am part of Christ church. I am one of those living stones that we see the church is. I am His and He is mine. I claim that Gods word is the truth. Like I have said. I have the very Spirit of Christ in me. He leads me into all truth through Gods written word…
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I am sorry if I implied that your church is not a source of truth. That was not my intent. What I was attempting, maybe poorly, was to outline how a Catholic would view theological truth. Of course we both agree that God’s written word is truth, but you stop there and say that God’s written word is “all” truth. This goes back to the criteria for the debate. You would not see anything wrong with having a theological debate using the Bible as the source of all truth; but to a Catholic, this is sawing off two legs of the stool we sit upon. Again, I am not trying to convince you of any merit that my argument might have. I am only trying to explain the Catholic understanding of theological truth.

God’s grace be with you.
 
tz620q said:
I am sorry if I implied that your church is not a source of truth. That was not my intent. What I was attempting, maybe poorly, was to outline how a Catholic would view theological truth. **Of course we both agree that God’s written word is truth, but you stop there and say that God’s written word is “all” truth. **This goes back to the criteria for the debate. You would not see anything wrong with having a theological debate using the Bible as the source of all truth; but to a Catholic, this is sawing off two legs of the stool we sit upon. Again, I am not trying to convince you of any merit that my argument might have. I am only trying to explain the Catholic understanding of theological truth.

God’s grace be with you.
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He was replying to me I didnt say his Church was not the source of truth-I commented that he has settled for a pale shadow of the truth. The complete Truth resides only in the Catholic Church

BTW-. he goes much farther than sayng that Gods written word is the source of all truth. He says his personal interpertation of Gods written word is the source of all truth
 
Roman_Catholic said:
Hey guys I from time to time check out this very anti-Catholic web-site to get a heads up on the different and newest attacks agaisnt the church called Slice of Laodicea.

sliceoflaodicea.com/

Any ways I noticed that they blogged about six posts downs that Mike Gendron will be debating Tim Staples. Here is what it says:

Very interesting. Why would Staples agree to do a debate against a rabid anti-catholic and use only the Bible? I mean the second guideline of the debate isn’t even biblical 🤷

Here is the web-site that the debate will be on:

relevantradio.com/NETCOMMUNITY/Page.aspx?&pid=275&srcid=809

And in case no one knows who Gendron is here is what the web-site says:

Notice the titles of his books. I was hoping someone with a faster internet connection could listen to this debate and tell me how it goes. My ant-catholic father in law goes to Gendron for his authority on Catholicism so I am very interesting in seeing what happens.

God bless
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Where can I find this debate archived?
 
Roman_Catholic said:
This is all I could find but I couldn’t open it because my internet connection is almost non-existant. I have to know how it ended, can anybody listen to it and let me know?:gopray2:

relevantradio.com/NETCOMMUNITY/Page.aspx?&pid=209&srcid=275

God bless

EDIT* looks like that link does nothing. It appears you have to sign into the web-site 😦
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Does anyone have any info on how the debate went, I’m sure it was great and both parties probably did pretty well.
 
myfavoritmartin said:
Therefore if Christ is the Rock then Peter cannot be the rock. Simple as that. My question is to to you who is right? Scripture or mens teaching of scripture? This is what it all boils down to. Peter was one of the Living stones that was built up in Christ His rock. Same as any other believer. With Christ alone being the Chief Cornerstone. You tell me How God can say that He knows of no other rock than Himself? Is God true and the teachings of man not? Therefore the rock that The church was built on was none other than Christ being the Messiah… Not peter…
Therefore we are the church, not Rome alone.
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Simon, as you state, we are the Church. But we have a Shepherd who gave the role of Shepherd to Peter in His absence. We have a Rock, who gave the role of Rock in His absence to Peter. As Jesus said, “All authority has been given to me…” Then he instructs the Apostles to go in His name. He’s giving them the Authority until His return.

That’s why we so lovingly call Peter and the rest of the Popes the Vicar of Christ!!!

Rome is not the Church, but the Servant of the Servants of God resides in Rome and Christ’s Church is universal. Why, you could even call it Catholic!!!

Take care, Simon!
 
Just have to say this! My great, great grandmother’s name was Laodicea and she would have a real Catholic Hissy Fit with that website with her very different name on it.
Sorry, just had to say it. 😛
 
Prague said:
Just have to say this! My great, great grandmother’s name was Laodicea and she would have a real Catholic Hissy Fit with that website with her very different name on it.
Sorry, just had to say it. 😛
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:mad: → 😦 → :o → 🙂 → 😃
 
I hope the debate will be archived. I’ve tried and it’s not there yet
 
myfavoritmartin said:
I can see through reading the scripture that There is no Rock other than God. Peter being a small moveable stone matches up with What we are told in scripture and how we are living stones being bult up into a spiritual house. This being the Church of Christ the Body
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MFM-

This is a really fascinating point…would you mind starting a new thread on Peter the “small moveable stone” so we could discuss this in more detail?

Thanks.
 
Excellent debate, although relatively short. Tim sums it up well at the very end, when he says that Catholics believe all of the gospel, and not just selected verses as protestants do.

Good job Tim!
 
upbeatjonm said:
Excellent debate, although relatively short. Tim sums it up well at the very end, when he says that Catholics believe all of the gospel, and not just selected verses as protestants do.

Good job Tim!
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Right on, listening now!
 
TheApologist said:
I’m not sure if directly listening to it would be alright…after all they do want you to sign up. Maybe we should all sign up before we listen?
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I signed up to Relevant Radio months ago and listenig to it every day, but I would agree with you.
 
Zemi love the smileys on your post for mine. My family comes from Prague.
 
Michael_Howard said:
I signed up to Relevant Radio months ago and listenig to it every day, but I would agree with you.
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It was a good debate, but way to short. I was disappointed Mike did not stick around in the final segment to help respond to calls. I think both men did a nice job, I give Tim the upper hand for sticking with the scriptures especially in his closing arguements. Good debate!
 
Michael_Howard said:
It was a good debate, but way to short. I was disappointed Mike did not stick around in the final segment to help respond to calls. I think both men did a nice job, I give Tim the upper hand for sticking with the scriptures especially in his closing arguements. Good debate!
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So no clear winner :mad:

How did Gendron talk to Staples? From his writings it seems that he thinks that he is so much smarter than everyone and I get the hint that he thinks Catholics are among the most unintelligent people on the earth. I was just wondering if he was respectful towards Staples or not. I mean look at what the web-site said; Gendron wouldn’t do the debate in a Protestant Church because he did want to, “perpetuate their false doctrine in evangelical churches.” :rolleyes:

God bless
 
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