Time for Parents to Resist Transgender Activism

[mVitus]

Okay a few things taken randomly. Where does it say that Jesus changed the old law? Jesus was of the Jewish faith and the only law I remember him breaking was working on the Sabbath. Jesus said that not one letter or tiddle of the old law was to be changed. One contradiction is how did Judas die? It is important in that did he seem sorry for what he did or didn’t he? Fatima can be explained, also the “revelations” have been found out some were told after events occurred. As for the flood, Jesus believed these events to have happened but now we see otherwise. Example is Moses, Exodus never happened. There is no evidence or record of it. Many Biblical scholars don’t believe it happened. Also considering the story of the Flood, why would anyone want to worship a being that nearly drives a planet to extinction save for 8 people whom had to repopulate the world. It takes a major stretch to see it as a symbol of baptism. I remember in school it was taught as a true event in order to explain rainbows.

Jesus may have existed true.

Jesus changing the Old Law is also seen in Matthew 15:11

What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them."

In regards to the death of Judas, a quick Google search gave me this link, which explains it as a matter of detail. Now overall I don’t think the site is a Catholic one so I can’t recommend it as a source for understanding any apparent contradictions, but I can’t imagine the explanation of this one contradicting any Catholic doctrine.

answersingenesis.org/contradictions-in-the-bible/how-did-judas-die/

As for the Flood, a quick search of the site brought forth the following article, which does a nice job of explaining it. One point it brings up is that the Flood may have referred to a local one, not a global one, but that people at that time used ‘all of the earth’ to refer to what they knew of the earth.

catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/a-catholic-perspective-on-a-new-attraction

And when it comes to the religious argument against transgenderism, here’s something from the Catechism.

In creating men “male and female,” God gives man and woman an equal personal dignity. “Man is a person, man and woman equally so, since both were created in the image and likeness of the personal God” (Mulieris dignitatem, 6).Each of the two sexes is an image of the power and tenderness of God, with equal dignity though in a different way (CCC 2334-35).

And from an article on the subject,

So, obviously, we need to love these people [transgenders]. But loving does not entail lying to the person. We need to say it’s because I love you that I need to speak truth to you—and it might hurt, and you might call me a hater, but you have to know that I have your best interests in mind.

I would suggest that if you come across a man who self-identifies as a woman, you should ask him a question: “When you say you’re a woman, what do you mean?” He might say, “Well, I’m attracted to other men.” Okay, so you’re attracted to other men—but that doesn’t make you a woman. He might say he likes what girls like. Okay, full disclosure, I like some things girls like too. I don’t like sports. He might say he identifies with the female form, that he likes it and wants it as his own. Well, okay, you need to understand that men’s and women’s bodies are different, but that doesn’t mean unequal, and they’re both good, and you need to rediscover the goodness of your own sexuality.

Full article.

catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/sex-less-america

And a question for you also. I’m assuming you’re a woman and as you’ve mentioned LGBT friends, but not mentioned yourself as LGBT, I’m assuming you’re straight. So as a straight woman, would you date a transgender man? (So a woman that says they’re a man.)

That’s 1 of 5 questions the following article asks and discusses.

catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/five-questions-for-supporters-of-gender-transitioning

 

[NM505StKate]

Jesus changing the Old Law is also seen in Matthew 15:11

What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them."

Under what context are you getting Jesus changed the law? Reading the chapter: skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/15.html I am not getting that context at all.

In regards to the death of Judas, a quick Google search gave me this link, which explains it as a matter of detail. Now overall I don’t think the site is a Catholic one so I can’t recommend it as a source for understanding any apparent contradictions, but I can’t imagine the explanation of this one contradicting any Catholic doctrine.

answersingenesis.org/contradictions-in-the-bible/how-did-judas-die/

Wow Ken Ham. Going to be blunt but anything in AIG is mostly garbage.

As for the Flood, a quick search of the site brought forth the following article, which does a nice job of explaining it. One point it brings up is that the Flood may have referred to a local one, not a global one, but that people at that time used ‘all of the earth’ to refer to what they knew of the earth.

catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/a-catholic-perspective-on-a-new-attraction

Oh I can agree it was a local thing as flood myths have been around the area, it is a desert after all. Thing is many see it as global and also use it to justify a “young earth” stance. To me it is a myth and nothing more.

And when it comes to the religious argument against transgenderism, here’s something from the Catechism.

In creating men “male and female,” God gives man and woman an equal personal dignity. “Man is a person, man and woman equally so, since both were created in the image and likeness of the personal God” (Mulieris dignitatem, 6).Each of the two sexes is an image of the power and tenderness of God, with equal dignity though in a different way (CCC 2334-35).

And from an article on the subject,

So, obviously, we need to love these people [transgenders]. But loving does not entail lying to the person. We need to say it’s because I love you that I need to speak truth to you—and it might hurt, and you might call me a hater, but you have to know that I have your best interests in mind.

I would suggest that if you come across a man who self-identifies as a woman, you should ask him a question: “When you say you’re a woman, what do you mean?” He might say, “Well, I’m attracted to other men.” Okay, so you’re attracted to other men—but that doesn’t make you a woman. He might say he likes what girls like. Okay, full disclosure, I like some things girls like too. I don’t like sports. He might say he identifies with the female form, that he likes it and wants it as his own. Well, okay, you need to understand that men’s and women’s bodies are different, but that doesn’t mean unequal, and they’re both good, and you need to rediscover the goodness of your own sexuality.

Full article.

catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/sex-less-america

Unfortunately you are thinking sexuality and gender are linked together. A gay man can be male or transmale whom likes other men. A lesbian can be female or transfemale and like other women. A transmale can like either males, females, transmales, transfemales or all of the above. The same goes for transfemales. Asexuals are not interested in sex. Agenders are neither gender while gender fluid and intersex, I can be off on this, have aspects of both. So if I come across a transfemale I call her her and don’t ask any questions because it is none of my business.

And a question for you also. I’m assuming you’re a woman and as you’ve mentioned LGBT friends, but not mentioned yourself as LGBT, I’m assuming you’re straight. So as a straight woman, would you date a transgender man? (So a woman that says they’re a man.)

That’s 1 of 5 questions the following article asks and discusses.

catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/five-questions-for-supporters-of-gender-transitioning

I am LGBT. I am also pansexual and would date any gender.

 

[mVitus]

Matthew.15:11 is.an example.of.the law being.changed. Specifically the food restrictions being released.

AIG might be garbage overall. I don’t know. But evaluate the argument itself, please, because it seems decent in his case.

Noah’s Ark.doesn’t have to be taken literally. But I recall watching one History Channel show where it mentioned that the Persian Gulf didn’t always exist, but came in towards the end of the Stone Age, hence a local flood. And the Church doesn’t necessitate young earth so you’re free to believe in the Big Bang and evolution as being by God’s hand (as opposed to.random.chance.) I know I do.

Sexuality does not change our gender. A transgender male is still a woman that’s attracted to women. (A lesbian.) But it’s an injustice to tell them they can be a man by injecting hormones and loppingoff their breasts. I don’t have a secular argument against acting on the homosexual tendency, but your genetics declare you male or female, not feelings. So a transgender man is a lesbian female, not a man.

 

[3DOCTORS]

Oh, so now Native American tribal spirituality is a basis for rational argument?

As some Natives have been wont to point out, the gender dysphoria and gender-optional position of the LBGTQ community of today has no synonymity with traditional Native two-spirit culture.

Google it, but this blog post should be a good starting point: TOWARD AN END TO APPROPRIATION OF INDIGENOUS “TWO SPIRIT” PEOPLE IN TRANS POLITICS: THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THIRD GENDER ROLES AND PATRIARCHY

Thanks for the reference to that post. The blog it’s from is worth following - though not from a specifically Catholic point of view, it contains views on the transgender issues that are not the usual propaganda, and that question the assumptions of same. I found it worth delving into further.

 

[NM505StKate]

Matthew.15:11 is.an example.of.the law being.changed. Specifically the food restrictions being released.

How do you come to that conclusion? Yeshua was a devout Jew so why in the world would he change the old laws?

AIG might be garbage overall. I don’t know. But evaluate the argument itself, please, because it seems decent in his case.

Noah’s Ark.doesn’t have to be taken literally. But I recall watching one History Channel show where it mentioned that the Persian Gulf didn’t always exist, but came in towards the end of the Stone Age, hence a local flood. And the Church doesn’t necessitate young earth so you’re free to believe in the Big Bang and evolution as being by God’s hand (as opposed to.random.chance.) I know I do.

Of course it isn’t meant to be taken literally. Exodus isn’t literal either as their isn’t any evidence for it but many do. The Persian Gulf not existing before a certain time period doesn’t bring about the conclusion of a flood. The Big Bang and evolution are facts and not beliefs, throwing Yahweh into the mix muddles things because you have to prove the existence of Yahweh to show it had a hand in those things. Also what is wrong with random chance?

Sexuality does not change our gender. A transgender male is still a woman that’s attracted to women. (A lesbian.) But it’s an injustice to tell them they can be a man by injecting hormones and loppingoff their breasts. I don’t have a secular argument against acting on the homosexual tendency, but your genetics declare you male or female, not feelings. So a transgender man is a lesbian female, not a man.

A transmale is a male who likes females is straight or heteroflexible. Not a woman who is attracted to another woman. There isn’t a secular argument because the majority of people against it are people of some faiths. Biologically we are all humans of the primate tree.

 

[JimG]

Biologically we are all male or female.

 

[WonderAndAwe]

“With public schools fast becoming incubators of gender ideology, parents need to cast off their fears of entering the fray, speak out, and, most importantly, teach their children that their sex is a beautiful, biological reality.”

Gender ideology is rapidly entering public schools and sometimes itself engendering “gender dysphoria” in children to young to know better. A recent article in First Things describes how one good school was ruined by gender ideology.

Here is the link.

Disgusting.

Trans=Satanism

 

[SylviaD]

Biologically we are all male or female.

Actually that’s not quite true. There are numerous intersex conditions that affect a small, but certainly not negligible percentage of human beings.

 

[Rau]

Actually that’s not quite true. There are numerous intersex conditions that affect a small, but certainly not negligible percentage of human beings.

That indeed appears to be the scientific state of affairs. Sometimes, something goes wrong in the formation of the person’s biology, whereby their sex is ambiguous - we have not the basis to categorise the person as either male or female.

 

[goout]

That indeed appears to be the scientific state of affairs. Sometimes, something goes wrong in the formation of the person’s biology, whereby their sex is ambiguous - we have not the basis to categorise the person as either male or female.

While that is true for a microscopic percentage of people, we are talking about the subjecting of real things to perceptions and feelings.

Because I am a pro basketball player. I feel I am, and I am trapped in a little short slow body that can’t jump.
But I really feel intensely that I am a pro basketball player.

And most importantly, if you do not respect my right to realize my feelings, you are a bigot and should be punished. Society needs to give me the resources to live my life according to my deepest feelings.

 

[NM505StKate]

Actually that’s not quite true. There are numerous intersex conditions that affect a small, but certainly not negligible percentage of human beings.

I was looking up stuff on this. The “five sexes” theory is interesting. Need to look into it more.

 

[prayersroses]

there is nothing so sad as a closed mind and closed heart

 

[NM505StKate]

there is nothing so sad as a closed mind and closed heart

I agree. I do my best to have my mind open. My heart beats constantly so I don’t think it can close, unless I am having a heart attack.

 

[WonderAndAwe]

there is nothing so sad as a closed mind and closed heart

I agree. I do my best to have my mind open. My heart beats constantly so I don’t think it can close, unless I am having a heart attack.

Yeah Open Mindedness! That’s TOTALLY a Catholic virtue!

No, open-mindedness always leads to satanic heresy.

 

[edwest2]

This is an invention. It is a social engineering experiment. Girls that look like girls may think they are boys, but that doesn’t make it true. It can only cause confusion and parents need to be mindful of this promotional campaign.

Ed

 

[NM505StKate]

Yeah Open Mindedness! That’s TOTALLY a Catholic virtue!

No, open-mindedness always leads to satanic heresy.

Then I rather be a heretic than closed minded.

 

[NM505StKate]

This is an invention. It is a social engineering experiment. Girls that look like girls may think they are boys, but that doesn’t make it true. It can only cause confusion and parents need to be mindful of this promotional campaign.

Ed

If so you are basing it on looks? So if a boy “looks like” a girl and identifies as a boy then what?

 

[WonderAndAwe]

Then I rather be a heretic than closed minded.

So I guess you think the Eucharist is just a symbol and nothing more than bread and wine, Jesus is anything but the consubstantial, begotten and uncreated Son of God, Catholics for Choice is a good group of people championing God’s Truth and Pope Michael is legitimate then?

Open-mindedness is dangerous. Its quite literally the first Sin: “Hey, God said ‘No eating the fruit’ but keep an open mind! It’s ripe and tasty and will make you like Gods if you eat it.”

 

[NM505StKate]

So I guess you think the Eucharist is just a symbol and nothing more than bread and wine, Jesus is anything but the consubstantial, begotten and uncreated Son of God, Catholics for Choice is a good group of people championing God’s Truth and Pope Michael is legitimate then?

Open-mindedness is dangerous. Its quite literally the first Sin: “Hey, God said ‘No eating the fruit’ but keep an open mind! It’s ripe and tasty and will make you like Gods if you eat it.”

Being honest here. I haven’t received the Eucharist in maybe two years now. I have no opinion. I have no idea about Catholics for Choice and who is Pope Michael? The “first sin”, I am not commenting.

 

[Rau]

If so you are basing it on looks? So if a boy “looks like” a girl and identifies as a boy then what?

I think he was offering up “looks” as a possible explanation for feeling other than what one is. A bit simplistic I agree.