Timothy Gordon Fired

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Anicette said:
What a world where people (teachers) get fired for opinions who are expressed outside of work and be left with nothing to provide for them and their family…
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Never heard of Tim Gordon before this thread but glad his family is getting some money. He must have taught for many years and been an active member of the school community. Just very sad.
 
Anicette said:
What a world where people (teachers) get fired for opinions who are expressed outside of work and be left with nothing to provide for them and their family…
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If a teacher at a Catholic school had a Youtube channel where he or she insulted and repudiated Catholicism and encouraged people to become atheists, should they be able to be fired?
 
Funny how the school calls itself Catholic considering he had a child to support.
 
What if he had preached acceptance of gay marriage while having a child who needed health insurance? Would it be wrong to terminate his employment then?
 
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That’a a little different from this topic. Here, the teacher does not repudiated Catholicism or encourage atheism.
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I understand, but you seemed to be suggesting that it would be inappropriate to fire a teacher for their conduct on their personal time. That’s why I posed that hypothetical.

His conduct reflected badly on the school. I’m not shocked they canned him. I don’t know this, but I’d also be surprised if he hadn’t been warned to rein it in multiple times.
 
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He possibly have been warned.

Yet it is relentless to not have at least wait the end of the school year.

We have also to make a distinction with being a theology teacher and a a teacher in general.

I think a school can fired a teacher, but for a good reason.

I have just discuss this with my husband and I don’t think that a Catholic school teacher can be fired for personal opinions outside of his work where I live. But maybe we can ask questions if he expresses anti catholic beliefs and work in a Catholic school.

Just to compare, for eg, one famous french philosopher, Michel Onfray, teach for many years philosophy in a Catholic high school before he left his post. He is an hedonistic, epicurean and atheist with anachist sympathies. he is also an euthanazy militant (and not only a militant…) More he is an anti catholic and anti religion in general, against what we teach in philosophy in schools.
He was never fired by his catholic school (as far as I know). We cannot just fired teacher as disposable products. Our labor laws don’t permit it. Of course some teachers have been fired for what they have done in classes.
 
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gracepoole said:
What if he had preached acceptance of gay marriage while having a child who needed health insurance? Would it be wrong to terminate his employment then?
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I am sure it happened every day in california and in many others places without the teacher being fired. It would be too much a mess after. Without mentionning that many educative communities would see no problem with it.
 
aroosi said:
Certain insurances have different plans according to family size but I think you are right, probably COBRA doesn’t differentiate in the family plan.
Anyway the reason for the contract termination could make it difficult for him to qualify for COBRA.
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I’d be very surprised if the diocese had COBRA at all. Most don’t, nor are they required to.
 
StudentMI said:
Funny how the school calls itself Catholic considering he had a child to support.
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I have to ask, would you say the same if he advocated gay marriage, abortion, contraception? Why would he get a pass on this behavior but not that?

If we are going to be consistent in the standards to which we expect Catholic teachers to be held, he should have been fired long ago.
 
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aroosi said:
COBRA is better than nothing but can be still very expensive, especially a coverage for a family of 8 people.
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COBRA can be insane. My last job that I was let go from, the COBRA cost $2,000 a month! Switching to the despised NY Obamacare only costs me $80 a month for a family of four.
 
gracepoole said:
But the CHURCH requires us to speak of and with Muslims with charity. Comparing them to insects is dehumanizing and frightening.
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Honestly I don’t see that as particularly dehumanising. Heck, I refer to my family as bugs on occasion. Calling someone a pest in the context of a mass-killing is, if anything, a humorous understatement. Calling such a literary device “disgusting and anti-Catholic” is a stretch, to say the least.
 
I encourage you to read up on the tropes used to dehumanize victims during various genocides, including the Holocaust and the genocide in Rwanda. This isn’t even remotely “a stretch.”
 
I don’t know what constitutes as wrongful termination, but I never knew he was a school teacher. I was pretty horrified given the sort of things he and his wife said (e.g. Her insulting comments on working mothers including Abby Johnson, or Tim making fun of fat women etc). If not for the comments about BLM, surely other statements would show that perhaps he’s not fit for the job.

That being said, his children are directly affected by this and I hope they get the care they need.
 
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