TLALOC - pagan Aztec God

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JKirkLVNV:
Yes, yes, bad Conquistadors, never mind that at the dedication of the Temple of the Sun, the Aztecs sacrificed so many of their fellow citizens and others obtained in the “Flowery Wars” that the temple was completely covered in blood and the blood ran into the streets. This is by their own accounting. There have been a lots of instances in history when cruelty has be inflicted and cruelty suffered. At least the light of the Gospel was brought to these shores. Viva La Virgen de Guadalupe, La Reina de los Americas! I don’t and won’t suppose you have any sinister reason for choosing your name until you inform me otherwise.
the Aztecs were not all killed by the Conquistadors. They succumbed to diseases that they had not previously experienced.

Anyway good points.

Maggie
 
TLALOC:

Could you try to cool the confrontation. I suspect that you glory in it somehow, but it’s not a good tool for getting your point across here. I mean, you’re NOT going to get DIALOGUE if everyone has you one IGNORE…
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Tlaloc:
Pity.
He seemed rather reasonable.
…And, regarding the support for things such as Eugenics and population control through forced sterilization and abortion - Have you considered that that’s hardly better than much of what the Conquistadores were doing?

Don’t you think that you just might want to be better than the people you dispise?

God Bless and Good Night.

Michael
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
I told you Catholics didn’t appreciate demon names.You have been forewarned.Why you don’t change your call name is beyond me.Our Lady interceded on behalf on the aztechs to get them away from that mess.We just don’t like that and it seems like a slap in the face to us personally(as well as an affront to God).Why won’t you show some respect for us and change your call name?God Bless
The name is clearly an affront to all Christians, and to all those who gave their lives in the past in the effort to stamp out the worship of demon gods.

Honoring the Satanic is not a joke or whimsy.

Only someone who intended to be deliberately provocative and to stir up trouble could have chosen to use such a name in a Catholic Forum.

IMHO, such agitators ought to be suspended.

Would anyone using the pseudonym ‘Himmler’ or ‘Eichmann’, while pretending it was just in fun, be allowed on a Jewish Forum?
 
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Digitonomy:
Do you have a cite for these? I vaguely remember them, especially the first, which may be in the renewal of our baptismal vows. But I don’t recall where these would be in scripture - or are they from the Church Fathers?

Never mind on the Father of Lies - it’s in John 8:44. Still looking for the lion prowling…
Digitonomy:

1 Peter 5:8 & 9: Discipline yourselves. keep alert. Like a roaring lion, your adversary the Devil prowls around looking for someone to devour. Resist him, steadfast in your faith, for you know that your brothers and sisters in all the world are undergoing the same kinds of suffering.

Satan appears in Genesis 3, Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28.

Plus, we have the Demoniac of the Gerasenes as a cautionary tale: Mark 5:1-20

This is serious stuff.

Have you ever listened to Hitler’s speeches in German? Have you ever noticed the way you’re caught along, even 70 years later?

I believe that there was a non-human agency at work there, and the same goes for the demonic designs of Joseph Stalin.

The devil is most definitely in the Scriptures, the Tradition and Magisterium of the Church. Modern Theologians don’t like the topic, but that doesn’t mean the Devil doesn’t exist.

For a “light-hearted” look, see The Screwtape Letters, by C.S. Lewis.

If we don’t kill this Thread, let’s change the subject away from “TLALOC-The Aztec Pegan god”. I’d get a complex if someone named a thread after me!

May God richly bless you.

In Christ, Michael
 
Traditional Ang said:
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. . . . To continue this thread is uncharitable and will quite probably risk suspension for posters who are nothing more than frustrated with TLALOC’s agenda and the extremely confrontational manner in which he puts it forth.

Blessings and peace to all.

In Christ, Michael

Uh? Do I hear right? Suspension for those who object to someone who honors a demon god on a Catholic Forum? While the culprit presumably goes free? So just what has happened to common sense?

Punish the victims while allowing the mocker to run free?

Sounds to me as if you may be in alliance with him.
 
Romano:

I’ve sent you a reply by PM - Please read it. If I have to post it, you’re not going to feel so hot about what you just said.

God Bless, Michael
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romano:
Uh? Do I hear right? Suspension for those who object to someone who honors a demon god on a Catholic Forum? While the culprit presumably goes free? So just what has happened to common sense?

Punish the victims while allowing the mocker to run free?

Sounds to me as if you may be in alliance with him.
As I said, I want this thread dead, and I will ask Therese Martin to kill it if people don’t stop posting vitriol.

As I said, God bless and may God remove your blinders.

Michael
 
Brothers and Sisters in the Lord:

I know how you feel about Tlaloc and his agenda. I object to his agenda as well, but this is NOT the way to confront it. The Bible says to return Good for Evil, NOT Evil for Evil. So, please, for the Love of God, DROP THIS THREAD!

We’ll never convince Tlaloc, or anyone who agrees with him, that he’s WRONG by beating him up and banging on him. We’ll only make ourselves look mean, and nasty, like the vicious child-eating god he’s named after.

NO, we have to argue with and EXPOSE his LOGIC so that, if all else fails, others can see the ERRORS in his PREMISES and his CONCLUSIONS, and how his way of thinking actually contribures to oppression, not frees people from oppression.

And, if we’re really lucky, one day, he’ll get that he’s been allowed freedom and respect he would never grant opposing views in his classroom (he’s an academic - look at the way he argues), and God will soften his heart, and he’ll see the error of his ways.

But, that’ll never happen if we keep doing things like the week long “Blanket Party” this Thread has been.

Our job is to use the Grace of God so freely given to save our souls, and if possible, a few others while we’re at it. We can’t do that and this at the same time. it’s just not possible.

Pray for him and that God will remove the scales from his eyes, and that God will keep him healthy in the meantime.

May God’s Grace and peace be with you all.

In Christ Jesus, Our Lord, Your Servant, Michael
 
Traditional Ang said:
Brothers and Sisters in the Lord:

We’ll never convince Tlaloc, or anyone who agrees with him, that he’s WRONG by beating him up and banging on him. We’ll only make ourselves look mean, and nasty, like the vicious child-eating god he’s named after.

Too late for that.
 
Traditional Ang:
Ahimsaman72:

TLALOC has pushed an agenda that has included forced sterilization, abortion and euthanasia. all by force, and all as means of Eugenics and Population Control. That sounds harmful to me! That has NOTHING to do with intent, just his oft stated agenda and what the man’s screenname signifies.
And, what does that agenda have to do with a screen name that people are obsessing about?
BTW, TLALOC, has used anti-Catholic rhetoric quite often. In case, you haven’t noticed, you have to more than that here to be banned or even suspended from the board. I guess you must be used to boards such as “Democratic Underground” where going against the “Board’s Orthodoxy” will get you banned (It’s in their bylaws)…
I’ve not been to other boards. I’m just used to decency and openness - something I guess you don’t want to allow.
While you’re thinking, ask this, were the Holocaust, the Genocide of 38 million by Stalin in the Ukraine and all the other Genocides of the 29th Century only the work of man? Or, Do you think that the Devil just might have a hand a hand in them?
“The Devil made me do it” is an age-old excuse that people use to not admit personal responsibility for their actions. I propose you start with the people themselves and see why they did the things they did. Are you with the CIA?

Peace…
 
Traditional Ang:
TLALOC:

Could you try to cool the confrontation. I suspect that you glory in it somehow, but it’s not a good tool for getting your point across here. I mean, you’re NOT going to get DIALOGUE if everyone has you one IGNORE…

…And, regarding the support for things such as Eugenics and population control through forced sterilization and abortion - Have you considered that that’s hardly better than much of what the Conquistadores were doing?

Don’t you think that you just might want to be better than the people you dispise?

God Bless and Good Night.

Michael
This thread should’ve never been started to begin with. Now, you’re talking about Eugenics and all kinds of things. Have you considered that you are part of the problem and not the solution?
 
I wonder if people would make such a big stink if I came in here under the name Ahoeitu, Nyonye-Ngana, Yara-Ma-Yha-Who, or Julunggul.

Maybe if I came in under the name Bochica, everyone would praise at how wonderful I am. I mean really, this thread is as amusing as watching 3rd graders fight about the last piece of birthday cake.
 
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