I know the answer to that question
Of course not, but I’m definitely curious to know why, if exactly three people in history ascended into Heaven without physical death, the most important of them is never mentioned in an active sense in Scriptures after Pentecost.Hajnalcsillag, I don’t think that any well-respected Catholic theologian would say “The bible doesn’t mention Mary dying, so that proves her assumption.”
I mean, how silly do you think we are? freesmileys.org/smileys/whacky109.gif (Rhetorical question.)
So if the criminal could do it, why not everyone? Surely someone who had committed a grievous enough crime to be (justly) crucified would need a lot more mercy than just another lukewarm sinner.I know the answer to that question
The criminal made a perfect act of contrition - he wasn’t sorry for his sins because he feared the fires of hell, he already thought he was going there, he was sorry for his sins because at that moment he realised the pain and suffering and agony his sins had heaped on Jesus.
Oh, and baptism of desire
There. Got that one covered.
(three that we know of)
Well I don’t know for sure, of course, but I would imagine that the Apostles considered the Assumption to be a truth, but not a truth central to the Faith.
As I said recently to jmcrae, if I didn’t know any better I’d think you were a newcomer to this forum.(The irony worked better the first time, since she has over 10,000 posts.)
But abuse should not lead us to discard something that God intended us to have. (It’s like the only saying, the existence of counterfeit money doesn’t mean that there isn’t any real money.)
At the risk of sounding like a scratched CD, CAF does NOT represent Catholicism. (Hmmm … maybe I should stick with the old “broken record” expression. After all, a scratched CD doesn’t usually repeat, it skips.)
I’ll join your counter-reformation if the intent is to seek unity through Christian love and charity, not trade polemics.Luther started the Protestant reformation
St. Igantius of Loyola started a counter-reformation, and had many successes. :knight2: BUT…
…there are still many who believe lies about the Church.
LET’S START A NEW COUNTER REFORMATION!!!
npatrol:
Ah, good question. He was right beside Jesus, who forgave him directly, in person. But Jesus knew He wouldn’t always be on earth, so made provision for just this very eventuality, in the form of giving the Holy Spirit breathed authority to forgive sins to his disciples - and this gift has been passed on to us today through the unbroken link to that first priesthood, through the authority of the priests of the Church. The catholic church doesnt actually teach that a person cannot make a perfect act of contrition to Jesus, and be forgiven, because even the Catholic church is no so presumptious to know the mind of Jesus or the state of someones soul. Jesus’s grace is given through the sacraments, but the church acknowledges is not bound by the sacraments.
)I disagree; CAF does represent Catholicism. It may not be a perfect reflection of doctrine or belief, but it most certainly reflects the people who believe in them. St. Francis of Assisi once said to, “Preach the Gospel always, and if necessary use words.” Jesus Himself (referring to false prophets) stated that, “By their fruit you will recognize them.”
I don’t know if you mentioned this, but, St. Dismas also was performing his pennance on the cross. Not only did he make a perfect act of contrition, but, he was making up for his life and all the effects of his sins right there.Ah, good question. He was right beside Jesus, who forgave him directly, in person. But Jesus knew He wouldn’t always be on earth, so made provision for just this very eventuality, in the form of giving the Holy Spirit breathed authority to forgive sins to his disciples - and this gift has been passed on to us today through the unbroken link to that first priesthood, through the authority of the priests of the Church. The catholic church doesnt actually teach that a person cannot make a perfect act of contrition to Jesus, and be forgiven, because even the Catholic church is no so presumptious to know the mind of Jesus or the state of someones soul. Jesus’s grace is given through the sacraments, but the church acknowledges is not bound by the sacraments.
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So much for Christian charity. I should expect as much from someone who would completely discount the validity of the tradition of the CHurch founded by Christ.**Gab: **14 million aztecs converted to Catholicism by the apparition of the Blessed Virgin Mary. God always has a remnant saved.
RA: Yeah, the Aztecs, and many other peoples, had all kinds of pagan goddesses. Such apparitions were common – and still are in some areas. The RCC said, “Hey, that’s Mary. if you become RC we won’t kill all of you.”
Historian William B. Taylor recounted that Guadalupe has also been “acclaimed goddess of the maguey [agave]” and *pulque *was drunk on her feast day. A 1772 report described the rays of light around Guadalupe as maguey spines.
Yup. RC + paganism strikes again.Just a thought. (I’m assuming you are probably referring to Our Lady of Guadalupe).
RA
I’m sorry but that’s just plain wrong. Peter J represents Peter J, adstrinity represents adstrinity, CWBetts represents CWBetts, Ag_not represents Ag_not, etc.
The irony here is that the Catholic Church has never required acceptance of Lourdes, or Guadeloupe, or any other Marian apparition, as a condition for being or becoming Catholic.
Jesus didn’t give the command for baptism until his Ascension, which was, according to my Bible, after the crucifixion and His conversation with the thief.
