To the Jewish Faith: How long will you wait?

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He had been warned by Rome to cool it with Jews and was recalled for that reason, that’s historical record. So it’s entirely possible he didn’t want them to cause any more trouble for him with the Jesus issue.
I don’t think so. I can’t imagine him worrying about job secuirty if he didn’t kill someone. It is believed he took funds from the Temple and used them to buiild and aqueduct, brutally beating the Jews when they protested. Not something someone who was concerned with quieting the Jews down would do. And he was eventually recalled to Rome, apparently because of his brutal use of violence against a Samartian uprising.
 
I do say that. Lots. It was the Romans put into a postition by a small group of Jewish religious and political figures. But, it is similar to saying that a man was killed by a .44 magnum. The bullit was the cause of death, but he was killed by the man who pulled the trigger.

Now, to the OP. IS it possible that Jesus second coming will be the Caoming of the Messiah for the Jewish people? Is it theologically acceptable to say that? I would ask if the Jewish community would accept it as a possibility, but Valke has taught me not to expect all to accept anything. But, is this possible?

Personally, i will wait until I die or he comes. I can’t do anything else.
The definition of Messiah in the christian and jewish communities is very different. The main difference being that we don’t think he will be God. So I don’t think it is really possible that we’re waiting for the same person. Of course, one of us (or both of us) are wrong. But theologically, we are waiting for different people.
 
None believed in christ, just like today they don’t. . IT IS WHAT IT IS.
This statement is unbiblical, unscriptual, untrue.

To the Jews on this board, just like God has preserved a remnant of believers before Messiah, the NT teaches God still does preserve a remnant of Israel by Grace, even today.
 
This statement is unbiblical, unscriptual, untrue.

To the Jews on this board, just like God has preserved a remnant of believers before Messiah, the NT teaches God still does preserve a remnant of Israel by Grace, even today.
Oh, come on…show me one Jew who believes that Christ is the Messiah. They didn’t believe then, they don’t believe now. He was a threat then, He is a threat now.
( I am not talking about the Messianic Jews either.)
I can quote about 5,000 Scriptures that state they didn’t believe. Maybe more.
 
The Romans killed Jesus. But if a new christianity wrote that, than the Romans would have killed christianity. So they cut their losses and blamed the Jews. IMO.

How come you never see anyone compelled to go around saying “The Romans killed Jesus!”
Romans only carried out what the Jews really wanted. Anyone yelling ‘crucify Him’ more than once, choosing a murderer over Our Lord, wanting Him dead every second He was alive? If that isn’t murder, then you are in total denial here. In Scripture, Pilate says over and over again how he finds NO GUILT In this man called Jesus, that he DID NOT want to crucify him, but if not what the Jews wanted. period. You can think what you like, it is an unfortunate fact that the Jews were threatened by Christ. They wanted nothing more than their money in those days, and that was it.
 
Romans only carried out what the Jews really wanted. Anyone yelling ‘crucify Him’ more than once, choosing a murderer over Our Lord, wanting Him dead every second He was alive? If that isn’t murder, then you are in total denial here. In Scripture, Pilate says over and over again how he finds NO GUILT In this man called Jesus, that he DID NOT want to crucify him, but if not what the Jews wanted. period. You can think what you like, it is an unfortunate fact that the Jews were threatened by Christ. They wanted nothing more than their money in those days, and that was it.
So the Church, or your church, teaches that Jews killed Jesus because he was cutting into their Temple funds?
 
Romans only carried out what the Jews really wanted. Anyone yelling ‘crucify Him’ more than once, choosing a murderer over Our Lord, wanting Him dead every second He was alive? If that isn’t murder, then you are in total denial here. In Scripture, Pilate says over and over again how he finds NO GUILT In this man called Jesus, that he DID NOT want to crucify him, but if not what the Jews wanted. period. You can think what you like, it is an unfortunate fact that the Jews were threatened by Christ.
Eventually, the amazement at the idea that the Romans could be bullied by Jews fades into: “These people may know their scriptures but, if they know little about Jews, they know absolutely nothing about the Romans.”
“They (the Romans) make a desert, and they call it peace.” - Tacitus
As they were more than prone to do during their occupation.
They wanted nothing more than their money in those days, and that was it.
Naughty Jews, naughty naughty Jews!
 
I don’t think so. I can’t imagine him worrying about job secuirty if he didn’t kill someone. It is believed he took funds from the Temple and used them to buiild and aqueduct, brutally beating the Jews when they protested. Not something someone who was concerned with quieting the Jews down would do. And he was eventually recalled to Rome, apparently because of his brutal use of violence against a Samartian uprising.
He did back down another time to Jews protesting over the ensigns though, so he is historically known to have conceded to their demands too.
 
I’m willing to wait anouther 2,000 years if necessary. How long are you willing to wait for your Jesus to return?
Nice one. Jesus promised to return ‘soon’. And look, its been 2000 years already and theres still no sign of Jesus. More & more christians are giving up the wait.
 
So the Church, or your church, teaches that Jews killed Jesus because he was cutting into their Temple funds?
I think it is more rather that they couldn’t have this rogue Jew going around saying he was going to be king of the world since Rome might decide to wipe them all out if they appeared to support it. For one reason.

Another that they just thought he was a false prophet blaspheming God and should die according to the Law. They wouldn’t be wrong in calling for his death if he really was a false prophet, would they?
 
Nice one. Jesus promised to return ‘soon’. And look, its been 2000 years already and theres still no sign of Jesus. More & more christians are giving up the wait.
They shouldn’t give up or have expected him any sooner since the prophecy says he will return 2000 years later.

Nothing could happen anyway until Jews were restored to Jerusalem first. So everything is going on schedule.
 
So the Church, or your church, teaches that Jews killed Jesus because he was cutting into their Temple funds?
So where do you get church teaching in what I wrote???:confused:
Their Temple funds was one of the reasons.
 
Nice one. Jesus promised to return ‘soon’. And look, its been 2000 years already and theres still no sign of Jesus. More & more christians are giving up the wait.
Jesus ALREADY RETURNED. His SECOND COMING will be upon us. An atheist will soon be on his knees screaming when they see him come.
 
I was never taught that money motivated the small group of Jews to do what they did. It was more a threat to the status quo and a percieved religious issue. They were afraid of the new way, and what it would mean to them, but they were scared to do anything themselves less the folowers rebel. If they could get the Romans to do it, and the Christians rebelled, two birds would be killed with one stone, so to speak.

How could a small group get the Romans to do anything? Remember that Jerusalam was the edge of the empire and it was considered a horrible post. Pilot would have no trouble killing one man (or a hundred) to keep the peace and not cause any news of trouble to get back home. The idea that he would not crucify one man to shut a loud group up is almost laughable. He did much worse for lesser reasons. Remember, it was not Rome as a whole that did it, anymore than it was the Jews as a whole that had him crucified. All together, I doubt that there were more than 200 people involved.
 
Eventually, the amazement at the idea that the Romans could be bullied by Jews fades into: “These people may know their scriptures but, if they know little about Jews, they know absolutely nothing about the Romans.”

As they were more than prone to do during their occupation.

Naughty Jews, naughty naughty Jews!
Sorry, but Pilate WAS bullied. In fact, he was totally intimidated, not only by the Jews, but by Ceasar. He wanted to hush the crowds of Jews who were crying out crucify Him. Do you deny this? Do you think the Jews were yelling release Him? Perhaps you should read the Gospel of John.
 
Sorry, but Pilate WAS bullied. In fact, he was totally intimidated, not only by the Jews, but by Ceasar.
Intimidated by Caesar is believable.
He wanted to hush the crowds of Jews who were crying out crucify Him. Do you deny this? Do you think the Jews were yelling release Him? Perhaps you should read the Gospel of John.
I’ve read the whole of the Christian scriptures. It’s a better read than the Qur’an but not as interesting as The Lord Of The Rings.
 
what gave you that idea?

Jews have been restored. Now what?
Now we wait until 2000 years are up.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that oneday [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Hosea 6:2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

1st century + 2000 years

Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
  • 1000 years
Revelation 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he willd well with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
 
must be the same way that jews are manipulating america & the press. 😃

dont underestimate them jews. 😉
I don’t. That is why my money is burried in a jar under the oak tree in my yard. 😃 Shoot, now I have to move it.:mad:
 
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