Told my GF I can only raise our kids Catholic

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Confirmation age varies among different diocese, some are as low as ‘at baptism’ to as old as near death. It’s not an adult-only sacrament.

I agree with much of what you stated.

As for our Original Poster, how old are you and your gf?
 
“South Park” inspired me to want to learn more about my faith. I was humbled when I realized that the clowns who wrote this show knew more about my faith than I did. Since I understand the principal of comedy to be 80% truth and 20% twisting the truth — and in order to achomplish the laugh, comedians had to have a strong foundation on their subject matter that they are making fun of (religion in. south. parks case).

Anyways, I went back to RCIA to learn what I refused as a child. It was amazing ! I went back for a second year because there was so much richness in our faith. From there, I volunteered catachism to the eight graders! & took the necessary classes to teach (pedofila & basic teacher training… Yep, so the. I was asked to help with the kindergartners … And then the second graders. I’m still learning the richness if our faith. It will be a life long lesson that I hope shines through me to others.

Peace be with you on your journey of learning. Since the topic of teaching your children the faith is dear to your heart, may I ask how you plan to teach them your faith when you still need to teach yourself the faith?

One of the biggest part of Catholosism is that we are dependent upon each other; we walk together, not alone. We walk with our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, we walk with the Saints and Angels, and we walk with our families.

There are programs like, Catholics come home, Emmanus walkers, and RCIA to help us take the historical, spiritual, & foundations of our faith. I suggest you use these tools of the church to help you understand more clearly before you may possibly teach children about the. Church.
 
If your girlfriend is concerned-let her know that the children do get a chance toi decide for thenselves. The sacrament of confirmation is a sacrament of initiation, where the child decides to continue with the faith for themselves.
It does not seem wise to even say that to her, as she may start discussing faith with them in a biased way at a young age.
 
So just had a long night of emotional hard discussion. My gf of 6 months is non-denominational Christian. I am an not a very good Catholic. I was raised Catholic and for much of my youth I was faithful, but somewhere along the line I fell out. I’ve studied other faiths and lived immoral lifestyles, but I’ve come to realize that there is only one True Church. Slowly but surely God is leading me back. We both came to conclusion we can accept each other’s faiths. She has pretty much same beliefs that I do, but the one thing she could not agree nor accept is that if we got married that I would raise our kids Catholic. She feels children should have the choice whether they want to be Catholic or not. Unfortunately she has many misconceptions about the Church and it doesn’t help that her parents are former Catholics. I told her we both needed time away to pray and think about it. I told her if she truly loved me that she would pray to God and read What Catholics Really Believe. Not to convert her but so she may understand why I cant choose any other faith and why I am bound to raise my children Catholic.
I will say this right now I feel like well bad, and kinda mad that my heart chooses to be Catholic. Please pray for me as my faith isn’t as strong as it once was. Feel so alone.
I am so glad God is leading you back to the Church! and I’m glad you’re hear asking for prayers and chatting.

I think that you might look at this at a different angle. When someone is coming back to the Church, going to the sacraments, and is looking to get married one day and raise kids to be Catholic, what do you think is going to be the one thing to sabotage the whole thing? The easiest thing to have this fall apart is to marry an attractive christian girl with parents that are likely anti-Catholic, who are going to have many conversations with her over the years to make sure she doesn’t ‘fall for the Catholic stuff’. Do not underestimate the power of parents over a daughter, especially once a baby comes into the picture. As you are trying to build up, they will be tearing down.

“She has pretty much same beliefs that I do”. I think I can help you with that, to point out in a nutshell what Catholic beliefs she will have trouble with…

Firstly, Jesus gave us his body and blood as food for the journey. “Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood will have life within him”. She doesn’t believe that, and wow, that is pretty important, don’t you think? Your kids will see that she doesn’t believe that, and grandma and grandpa don’t believe that. That will have a huge impact on them.

Jesus said “What you bind on earth is bound, and what you loose is loosed”. He gave us bishops and priests to hear confessions and reconcile us to God. What a tremendous gift this is to the faithful! After baptism, when we fall, we can still be in God’s friendship with this sacrament. Your gf doesn’t believe this. What a tremendous shame that is.

Jesus established his Church and put the pope as his prime minister. This is a tremendous gift to humanity and a source of great mercy from Jesus. Your gf would not believe this. This is a great weight off our shoulders because we don’t have to be mini Popes to decide what this scripture really means or if we can or can’t do something. We have the constant teaching of the Church through out the centuries to guide us. Christ established his Church because it’s important.

Our Blessed Mother is a tremendous intercessor. So are all the saints! We ask for their kind prayers, especially during difficult times, and there’s no shortage of difficulties over the years. The rosary is the weapon of our times, a great gift to us. Your gf would not agree. How very sad. And, we don’t ‘worship’ Mary either. Please! But having her as our confident and friend is a great benefit.

If I could wish something for you, I would wish that you would find a lovely Catholic girl that you both could explore your faith together and walk together in this way. To grow from a child like understanding of the faith to a grown up, powerful, *pulling down the graces of God upon the world *kind of faith. Someone who will build up with you, laying down a strong foundation.

May God strengthen your resolve to grow in the faith and may the Holy Spirit enlighten you!
 
Every time I hear this it makes me toes curl! I’m assuming she’s not of a liturgical/sacramental protestant denomination?

Faith isn’t a choice, it’s a gift from God. We help facilitate that gift by presenting our babies for Baptism (a sacramental gift!), helping prepare our young children for their First Communion (another sacramental gift!), and encourage them through their Confirmation (and another!!).

Would help if you explain to her that “choosing” is a “work”?

But when the kindness and generous love
of God our savior appeared,
not because of any righteous deeds we had done (including “choosing” to be baptized!)
but because of his mercy,
he saved us through the bath of rebirth
and renewal by the holy Spirit,
whom he richly poured out on us
through Jesus Christ our savior,
so that we might be justified by his grace
and become heirs in hope of eternal life.
Titus 3:4-7
Well said!~
Amen.
 
That’s why it hurts me that God would place such a great girl in my life only to have to make me choose. I told her that once the kids reach age of reason I can’t force them to follow the faith its something they would have to choose.
Two interesting comments together.

You do not like that you feel God is making you choose, and then, in the next line, you are going to make your children choose.

God is not making you choose between Him and your gf. He is making you choose between this girl, and another one in the future, one that is Catholic. One that will not put your children in a position where they have to choose.

Ask yourself, will your life be better if you were with someone that shares the SAME faith as you, or one that you will have disagreements and differences with? One that will place your children in between both of you.
 
You should consider very strongly whether you two a right for each other to marry. I’m not saying mixed-faith marriages cannot work, but they are typically problematic. It is good that this problem in this case has arisen quite early. You can either address it or decide that you two should part.
 
I am 30 and she is 26. The thing is I am not ignorant when it comes to my faith. There were issues that were hard for me to accept and I was selfish and wanted what pleased me. Many people are now telling her, including other “catholics” that if we truly love each other then we should be willing to compromise and that that’s what relationships are about. One friend of hers was even shocked that I told her to not make me choose between her and God because God will win because I have to love him more than anyone else. It seems like she is now becoming much more hostile to the Church because she feels that the “man made rules” of the church are what have put us in this position. She asked if I’d be willing to come to her services and she would come to mass with me. I said that I would find out if this is ok and if it then I would. According to one member on here it seems like its ok??
 
I am 30 and she is 26. The thing is I am not ignorant when it comes to my faith. There were issues that were hard for me to accept and I was selfish and wanted what pleased me. Many people are now telling her, including other “catholics” that if we truly love each other then we should be willing to compromise and that that’s what relationships are about. One friend of hers was even shocked that I told her to not make me choose between her and God because God will win because I have to love him more than anyone else. It seems like she is now becoming much more hostile to the Church because she feels that the “man made rules” of the church are what have put us in this position. She asked if I’d be willing to come to her services and she would come to mass with me. I said that I would find out if this is ok and if it then I would. According to one member on here it seems like its ok??
It is ok as long as you don’t compromise your faith.

Also, you cannot take communion in her church or participate in their sacraments/ordinances (probably baptism and communion are their only two).

So if you went to mass on Saturday night and her church Sunday morning (or vice versa) or something along those lines it should be fine.

Just make sure the kids get their sacraments AND a good catholic catechesis. The evangelical church will have very good youth ministries so make sure your kids are involved at the parish as well.
 
It is ok as long as you don’t compromise your faith.

Also, you cannot take communion in her church or participate in their sacraments/ordinances (probably baptism and communion are their only two).

So if you went to mass on Saturday night and her church Sunday morning (or vice versa) or something along those lines it should be fine.

Just make sure the kids get their sacraments AND a good catholic catechesis. The evangelical church will have very good youth ministries so make sure your kids are involved at the parish as well.
Thank you for your advice it really helps 🙂
 
The most likely scenario, with going to both, sadly is that both you and your kids will slowly gravitate toward the one that is more social. It’s very difficult to NOT allow your kids or yourself/wife to spend time with friends you make at either church, and when push comes to shove - will you go to Mass on Sat./Sun. or go to one and attend kids camp/guys football-Bible Study/Women’s groups/etc,etc the other?
 
I am 30 and she is 26. The thing is I am not ignorant when it comes to my faith. There were issues that were hard for me to accept and I was selfish and wanted what pleased me. Many people are now telling her, including other “catholics” that if we truly love each other then we should be willing to compromise and that that’s what relationships are about. One friend of hers was even shocked that I told her to not make me choose between her and God because God will win because I have to love him more than anyone else. It seems like she is now becoming much more hostile to the Church because she feels that the “man made rules” of the church are what have put us in this position. She asked if I’d be willing to come to her services and she would come to mass with me. I said that I would find out if this is ok and if it then I would. According to one member on here it seems like its ok??
In order to go to her services, you must first meet the Sunday obligation.
That means going to Mass either Saturday evening or Sunday morning.
After attending Mass, you may go to her service.
Just as she cannot receive the Eucharist at Mass, you need to refrain from accepting any communion service that they offer.

You may want a St. Ignatius RSV Bible. That way you will have a translation that is mutually acceptable to both of you for looking up passages.
The NAB is used in the United States, but the RSV was actually used for liturgical services while I was overseas. It is the translation used in Great Britain as well as many non-Catholic denominations.
It will also help to have a copy of the New Catholic Answers Bible, which is NAB, It uses a question answer format and Biblical references for FAQ regarding the Catholic Faith.
 
You could check out your local RCIA, and ask if she would be willing to attend it with you, That way if she’s still against raising the children in the faith, she will know what she’s talking about. She would learn that it’s the church that Jesus founded. But make sure it’s not a touchy-feely type RCIA, but one based on solid principles.

You made a previous comment that children had bullied her because she wasn’t baptized. Did you mean that she was never baptized, even in her non denominational church? That might be something to discuss, as baptism is essential for a Christian of any stripe. Hopefully, she was baptized at some point.
 
It seems like she is now becoming much more hostile to the Church because she feels that the “man made rules” of the church are what have put us in this position.
Jesus left us a Church with a hierarchical structure, sacraments to give us grace, and rules to keep us on the right track. It’s not just “Jesus and me”. It’s a community.
 
There are also going to be MANY other issues besides just where children are raised in this relationship if you continue to pursue it and marry her.

First, how does she feel about birth control? How is she going to feel about NFP? Just peruse the many other threads on this forum just recently and you’ll see how couples are struggling with this ONE thing and it is causing huge rifts in their marriages because one spouse is not Catholic.

Then there is the in-law thing. In-laws are hard enough without the constant “elephant in the room” regarding religion 😃

Then there is the “where will the kids be raised?” thing.

And on and on and on.

Unless you both get on the same page BEFORE marriage, I can see many adversities that will have to be overcome. Is that what you envision for your married life?

See if she will at least learn more about your faith with an open mind by either reading some Catholic literature or attending RCIA. There are even a TON of youtube videos by awesome Catholic speakers (Scott Hahn, Tim Staples, Steve Ray, etc.) that you both could listen to together. I recommend Steve Ray’s “By Faith Alone” and “Are You Born Again?”
 
There are also going to be MANY other issues besides just where children are raised in this relationship if you continue to pursue it and marry her.
I am a non-Catholic with a Catholic wife. We have a very strong, happy marriage. Although there were a few sticking points along the way, ultimately it works for us. After reading this thread I sense that it would not work for the OP and his girlfriend. IMHO, the OP would be doing this young lady a huge favor by cutting their losses and going their separate ways.
 
She was baptize when she was young child at a christian church
 
She was baptize when she was young child at a christian church
Baptism of your infants will likely be yet another sticking point in all this. What does she believe? Does she believe in infant baptism? Will it create friction with her and her family in a time that should be very joyous otherwise?

A relationship with her will need to hinge on mutual respect for each other’s wishes and basically, deciding in advance of marriage, what your approach will be to the litany of issues that will arise. Can she be respectful of your faith? Can you be respectful of hers? Can you both live a life of not actively trying to convert the other? Is she willing to learn more about the Catholic faith or is she hardened in her beliefs? The list of questions goes on and on……
 
She says there is no point when it comes to denominations because we are all Christian and believe in Christ and bible. .
I will NEVER understand people who say ‘there is no point in denomination’ yet always attend the same church. Seems like a contradiction. If there is no point in denomination, why wouldn’t she go to a Catholic church if it made you happy
I’ve dated Catholic girls who led me away from the faith. Dated, atheist, agnostics, and protestants. She is an amazing person who no doubt would make a wonderful wife and great mother. That’s why it hurts me that God would place such a great girl in my life only to have to make me choose…
I am sure that at the time the other girls were leading you away from the faith you though they were great. This almost seems like same garbage different pile. ie you think she is great but she is leading you away from the faith and you won’t see it until later
She’s had bad experience with Catholics when she was kid from other kids who would tell her she would go to hell for not being baptize.
A good Christian would forgive those kids that hurt her. A good Christian would not be so narrow minded as to be prejudice just because she met a few bad Catholics. And a normal adult would realize that kids are kids and although yes they probably hurt her really bad, as an adult we need to get over our past and take it from where it came
 
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