Transitional Fossils and the Theory of Evolution in relation to Genesis Accounts

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Capta(name removed by moderator)rudeman said:
Earth was the result of a natural process, not influenced supernaturally by God.
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You wouldn’t know. No one knows or can ever know.
Buzzard3 said:
What about butterflies, flowers, lyre birds, tigers and sunsets? God (name removed by moderator)ut or no God (name removed by moderator)ut?
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Nope. All the result of natural processes.
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You wouldn’t know.
Jury’s out on the first life forms, but I tend to think those were His doing. Everything else was not tampered with.
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You wouldn’t know. You’re just guessing.
Adam’s soul was created and bestowed on him by God, but the body itself was not.
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Another guess.
 
You’ve literally fallen to the point of “Nuh uh.”

That’s your best argument?
 
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Capta(name removed by moderator)rudeman said:
We can know once we have the proper environment to replicate the experimental conditions hundreds of millions of years ago. Until then, you’re right, we can only speculate. It won’t be all speculation forever.
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In other words, we’ll never know and all we can do is speculate.
I see you missed this:
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Pattylt said:
Search and ye shall find.
https://www.livescience.com/7877-understanding-heart-evolution.html
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A very simplistic “explanation” for a very complex problem - typical Darwinist “science”.
It comes from a website dedicated exclusively to ID. No opposing views allowed
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If you don’t like the message, shoot the messenger. How dare anyone suggest God intervened in nature to achieve his creation!
Creation itself is designed and sustained by a supernatural God. I just don’t make Him the reason for things He isn’t the reason for.
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… except you don’t know which parts of creation needed God and which didn’t.
I follow evidence and reason. I don’t make my mind up, then look for evidence to support that. I find the evidence and make my opinion based on that.
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Same here.
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Buzzard3 said:
In other words, we’ll never know and all we can do is speculate.
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Not what I said.
Buzzard3 said:
A very simplistic “explanation” for a very complex problem - typical Darwinist “science”.
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Or…it’s simpler than you think.
Buzzard3 said:
How dare anyone suggest God intervened in nature to achieve his creation!
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How dare they call themselves scientific when they aren’t.
Buzzard3 said:
… except you don’t know which parts of creation needed God and which didn’t.
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I have a pretty good guess based on evidence.
 
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Capta(name removed by moderator)rudeman said:
Not what I said.
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Right … wake me up when someone makes a bird evolve from a lizard. 😂
Or…it’s simpler than you think … I have a pretty good guess based on evidence
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So says a dreamer who makes the grand claim that he can explain the miracle of creation with his puny science … grand claims that are empty, btw, since they can never to put to the test. Talk about delusions of grandeur! 🤩

Next you’ll be telling us you know how Jesus turned water into wine, walked on water and raised Lazaurus from the dead.
 
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Buzzard3 said:
Somehow you keep confusing speculating with knowing.
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A scientific theory is our best way of knowing that matches all available evidence. Considering the weight of evidence for evolution, you will need a good theory that matches evidence in order to convince anyone otherwise.

For all intents and purposes, we know things evolved.
 
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twf said:
Ah yes, but 99% of scientists are wrong and need to be educated by armchair theologians who understand “real science” better than they do
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A lot of scientists think they can explain the miracle of creation with science - their pride deludes them. For example, the late Stephen Hawking thought he was too smart for God.

Scientists theorize and claim to “know” … and God laughs.

“Professing be wise, they became fools” (Roman 1).
 
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Yeah, it’s scientists who are prideful and think they know best.
 
So, merely quantity.

Evolution can increase complexity. Hence evolution can reach your “super complexity”, rendering the distinction meaningless for the purposes of this discussion.
 
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