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byfaithalone
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I don’t know what post you are referring to. Post it again for me. I’m not used to the layout of these boards.
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Tomster
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Your particular belief is cheap salvation and erroneous. OSAS is nowhere to be found in the Bible.
BTW- I see you couldn’t resist interpreting Scriptures for us. Are they infallible interpretations or just part of your own man-made belief system which is subject to change.
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byfaithalone
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I’ve already stated salvation is by no means cheap. Jesus laid down His own life so that we may have life.
What did I interpret? I posted Scripture, not an interpretation. You deny imputed righteousness, yet it right there for you to see. Do you deny those verses? Do you deny that the word imputed is used?
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Cat_Herder
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[BIBLEDRB]Galatians 1:6[/BIBLEDRB]
[BIBLEDRB]Galatians 5:4[/BIBLEDRB]
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Tomster
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Why bother confessing your sins. It doesn’t matter in your faulty theology whether a one has committed one sin or a million. In your faulty theology once a person is saved, he is always saved - PERIOD!
So, again, I ask you, why bother confessing anything to God if you are already saved?
(inside of your brain there is an on/off switch. please put this switch in the “on” position. thank you very much)
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byfaithalone
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Wonderful verses. The law justifed no one, I already knew that. What does either of those verses have to do with the fact the He has washed us and those that He has washed are never, ever referred to as unclean?
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byfaithalone
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Let me repeat myself since it seems you missed it the first time I posted it.
Because I am a sinner and we are to confess our sins. Do you think the unsaved would confess their sins? No, the saved do. Is this really foreign to you?
And I forgive you for that insult you just posted. Is that the fruit of Catholicism?
Because I am a sinner and we are to confess our sins. Do you think the unsaved would confess their sins? No, the saved do. Is this really foreign to you?
And I forgive you for that insult you just posted. Is that the fruit of Catholicism?
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Snerticus
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I don’t know about anyone else, but I’ve heard this too many times by those who misconstrue Catholic teaching. Upon further questioning, I have come to believe that those who say this do (or did) not really understand the faith to begin with.
However, they sincerely think they do. And I certainly don’t fault anyone for being sincere.
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Tomster
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Now we are getting somewhere. You have interpreted nothing for the simple reason that either you can’t or are afraid to.
Again, which is it?
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byfaithalone
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I’ve heard the above too many times by those Catholics who think I misconstrue Catholic teaching. I understand the teachings. I just happen to deny some of them. I understood and understand it just fine.
I know you sincerely think you are right, but you are sincerely wrong.
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Tomster
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If you are referring to the light switch remark, too bad you misinterpreted that as an insult. For you see, no, you really can’t see, that the Church has always taught that faith and reason go hand in hand. By jettisoning the God given gift of reason all you are left with is “faith alone” which is nowhere in Scriptures either.
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byfaithalone
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I posted Scripture. What is there to interpret? I do not deny that we are imputed righteousness as scripture says.
Would you care to post the infallible interpretation of those verses? Correct me if you think I am wrong. Show me how I am wrong in believing what Scripture says.
Would you care to post the infallible interpretation of those verses? Correct me if you think I am wrong. Show me how I am wrong in believing what Scripture says.
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byfaithalone
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You asked me why I confess my sins. I replied because I am a sinner and we are to confess our sins. Do you think the unsaved would confess their sins? No, the saved do. Is this really foreign to you?
Please tell me how what I posted is unreasonable. Without slinging an insult if you can help yourself.
Please tell me how what I posted is unreasonable. Without slinging an insult if you can help yourself.
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Tomster
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Another infallible judgment by byfaith alone. Where does he get this power?I’ve heard the above too many times by those Catholics who think I misconstrue Catholic teaching. I understand the teachings. I just happen to deny some of them. I understood and understand it just fine.
I know you sincerely think you are right, but you are sincerely wrong.
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byfaithalone
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I’m a she, not a he. And I made no judgment that differed from the judgment posted by Snerticus.
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Tomster
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Last time! It was not an insult. It was the truth. You have stopped thinking.
IF YOU ARE SAVED WHY DO YOU BOTHER TO CONFESS YOUR SINS?
Logically speaking, there would be no reason to confess your sins if you are saved. - Duh!
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Tomster
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Comment?
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delsydebothom
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While this is only part of the overall issue, I’d like to ask if you think “imputed” is the only way to translate the word “logizesthai”? What evidence speaks for this translation over and against, say, “reckoned”?
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Cat_Herder
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People who once had grace… No longer had it. That is fatal to imputed righteousness as you understand it.
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byfaithalone
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That is not what it says. It says those jusfied by the law. The law doesn’t justify. Anyone attempting to be justified by the law isn’t under grace.
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