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Kount_C
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Fair enough…Let me fix this up for you…
But what quality of woman?
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underacloud
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I would suggest the wrong type of woman.Fair enough…
But what quality of woman?
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A woman who merely wants to sleep with the alpha male is probably not good marriage material.
A woman who merely wants to marry a man because he is rich is probably not good marriage material.
That’s not to say that many women don’t rightly value those things - masculinity and ability to provide for their family - but they should not be the main determinants of suitable spouses. Quality women rise above these more basic desires, in much the same way that a man looking for a good wife will not merely value physical features. The quality of a person’s character, including their moral compass, is what is most important. You need to see any future spouse as a partner and friend.
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Kount_C
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All for fun, I think this might be my last response.I would suggest the wrong type of woman.
A woman who merely wants to sleep with the alpha male is probably not good marriage material.
A woman who merely wants to marry a man because he is rich is probably not good marriage material.
That’s not to say that many women don’t rightly value those things - masculinity and ability to provide for their family - but they should not be the main determinants of suitable spouses. Quality women rise above these more basic desires, in much the same way that a man looking for a good wife will not merely value physical features. The quality of a person’s character, including their moral compass, is what is most important. You need to see any future spouse as a partner and friend.
The quality of all of these things you’ve mentioned go up , fairly quickly with the Alpha Male’s status. I post this not out of selfishness; but however, out of response to one of the responses in this thread that mentioned
If we examine the website,
dojodrifter.com/2014/04/10-hot-mma-wags-wives-and-girlfriends/
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We can see each fighter, with his trophy GF or wife. Each woman is an easy dime on the 10 scale. My particular favorite is Dan Hendo. It is hard to believe he is 43. But I'm pretty sure, these woman are not going to run off from their champion fighters any time soon. Its all relevantThis is the natural order of things.
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Kount_C
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Are you a Misfits fan ?Wow. You hit the nail on the head when you wrote you’re trapped in your life.
Instead of asking “What if” why don’t you ask yourself, “Why not?”
There are many examples of people who have overcome insurmountable odds and succeeded.
***David and Goliath: Underdogs, Misfits, and the Art of Battling Giants Hardcover –
by Malcolm Gladwell***
It’s not the Bible, but there’s an excellent chapter on just how David Slew Goliath.
A lot of Jerry Only’s storys had inspired me to move forward in my life. in regards to the Misfits. Considering he didn’t get a chance at success until he was about 37. Working in his father’s machien shop paying off the debt from the 80’s
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Xantippe
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I don’t even know what to say to that…All for fun, I think this might be my last response.
The quality of all of these things you’ve mentioned go up , fairly quickly with the Alpha Male’s status. I post this not out of selfishness; but however, out of response to one of the responses in this thread that mentioned
If we examine the website,
dojodrifter.com/2014/04/10-hot-mma-wags-wives-and-girlfriends/
I would find it hard to believe that a woman doesn’t prefere Gregg Plitt over a pasty stick man greeting customers at the local big box store. I’ve lived it first hand, when I was a young pasty stick man myself many years ago.Code:We can see each fighter, with his trophy GF or wife. Each woman is an easy dime on the 10 scale. My particular favorite is Dan Hendo. It is hard to believe he is 43. But I'm pretty sure, these woman are not going to run off from their champion fighters any time soon. Its all relevant
Code:This is the natural order of things.
Why, yes, people who value personal appearance above all value personal appearance above all. Want to make any bets about the long-term viability of those relationships? I would expect the sort of volatility and churn that you see in Hollywood relationships between pretty, pretty people.
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MacQ
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I think you’ve made your choices.
And make no mistake. They ARE your choices.
And make no mistake. They ARE your choices.
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underacloud
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Well, I think you’ve found the answer to your problems…you need to become a cage fighter.The quality of all of these things you’ve mentioned go up , fairly quickly with the Alpha Male’s status. I post this not out of selfishness; but however, out of response to one of the responses in this thread that mentioned
If we examine the website,
dojodrifter.com/2014/04/10-hot-mma-wags-wives-and-girlfriends/
I would find it hard to believe that a woman doesn’t prefere Gregg Plitt over a pasty stick man greeting customers at the local big box store. I’ve lived it first hand, when I was a young pasty stick man myself many years ago.Code:We can see each fighter, with his trophy GF or wife. Each woman is an easy dime on the 10 scale. My particular favorite is Dan Hendo. It is hard to believe he is 43. But I'm pretty sure, these woman are not going to run off from their champion fighters any time soon. Its all relevant
Code:This is the natural order of things.
Good luck with that.
I think that’s a good idea. You really need to start dedicating yourself to training, not wasting time on internet forums. And no doubt you’ll find these women you like hanging around your local BJJ academy, trying to latch on to the next GSP or Lesnar.All for fun, I think this might be my last response.
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Xantippe
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Funny!Well, I think you’ve found the answer to your problems…you need to become a cage fighter.
Good luck with that.
I think that’s a good idea. You really need to start dedicating yourself to training, not wasting time on internet forums. And no doubt you’ll find these women you like hanging around your local BJJ academy, trying to latch on to the next GSP or Lesnar.
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MacQ
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DUDE: Step away from the video games. Get yourself out among real people. Look in to a Men’s club like “That Man Is You” at the Catholic Church. Attend a Catholic Mens’ Retreat (I suggest ACTS).All for fun, I think this might be my last response.
The quality of all of these things you’ve mentioned go up , fairly quickly with the Alpha Male’s status. I post this not out of selfishness; but however, out of response to one of the responses in this thread that mentioned
If we examine the website,
dojodrifter.com/2014/04/10-hot-mma-wags-wives-and-girlfriends/
I would find it hard to believe that a woman doesn’t prefere Gregg Plitt over a pasty stick man greeting customers at the local big box store. I’ve lived it first hand, when I was a young pasty stick man myself many years ago.Code:We can see each fighter, with his trophy GF or wife. Each woman is an easy dime on the 10 scale. My particular favorite is Dan Hendo. It is hard to believe he is 43. But I'm pretty sure, these woman are not going to run off from their champion fighters any time soon. Its all relevant
Code:This is the natural order of things.
Do some volunteer work…help build a Habitat House…work in a food bank… anything.
This stuff, along with isolation is warping your perspective.
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Cat
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Agreed.DUDE: Step away from the video games. Get yourself out among real people. Look in to a Men’s club like “That Man Is You” at the Catholic Church. Attend a Catholic Mens’ Retreat (I suggest ACTS).
Do some volunteer work…help build a Habitat House…work in a food bank… anything.
This stuff, along with isolation is warping your perspective.
I tried saying the same thing (more or less–I suggested that the OP find a counselor who can help him to “learn how to live”).
The OP was not pleased with me or my suggestion. Hopefully he will listen to you.
But I’m beginning to think that the OP is not real.
AnneElizabeth, you thought many of us were being judgmental of the OP. I would be interested in hearing your response to the OP’s post #44.
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MacQ
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You may be on to something there. I have seen similar threads that start out the same way (some poor guy trapped in his life with mother for various reasons…) and they usually go on to elaborate about how they can’t get dates or relate to women (and that usually involves them surmising that women are all attracted to macho alpha male types)…and when that is refuted by actual women and men who do successfully relate to them, the OP always knows better, gets angry and defensive when suggestions are made about getting out and getting involved with people in positive activities.Agreed.
I tried saying the same thing (more or less–I suggested that the OP find a counselor who can help him to “learn how to live”).
The OP was not pleased with me or my suggestion. Hopefully he will listen to you.
**But I’m beginning to think that the OP is not real. **.
And then this escalates to some kind of pronouncement about not needing women (in this guy’s case, money will do), but somehow thinking that women lay themselves down for other guys and should for them too…it’s just because there’s something wrong with women, and he needs to be a jerk so they will obey.
Either this is one or more troll fanstasizers toying with us (which is kinda sick), or there are some lost boys out there who don’t understand what relationships with women are in the healthy sense. I worry about the latter…these are the kinds of losers that head off to Syria for an AK-47 and 72 virgins.
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Xantippe
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I think CAF has a very high percentage of trolling OPs (looking at you, Mr. Dad-of-10-married-21-years-to-atheist wife), but I think a lot of the lost boys are for real. There are whole segments of the internet devoted to those guys, the ones who hate and distrust women, but WANT one so bad.You may be on to something there. I have seen similar threads that start out the same way (some poor guy trapped in his life with mother for various reasons…) and they usually go on to elaborate about how they can’t get dates or relate to women (and that usually involves them surmising that women are all attracted to macho alpha male types)…and when that is refuted by actual women and men who do successfully relate to them, the OP always knows better, gets angry and defensive when suggestions are made about getting out and getting involved with people in positive activities.
And then this escalates to some kind of pronouncement about not needing women (in this guy’s case, money will do), but somehow thinking that women lay themselves down for other guys and should for them too…it’s just because there’s something wrong with women, and he needs to be a jerk so they will obey.
Either this is one or more troll fanstasizers toying with us (which is kinda sick), or there are some lost boys out there who don’t understand what relationships with women are in the healthy sense. I worry about the latter…these are the kinds of losers that head off to Syria for an AK-47 and 72 virgins.
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MacQ
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Yes…frustrating that they’re going about it in all the wrong ways and unwilling to do otherwise when advised by people who sincerely would like to see them succeed.I think CAF has a very high percentage of trolling OPs (looking at you, Mr. Dad-of-10-married-21-years-to-atheist wife), but I think a lot of the lost boys are for real. There are whole segments of the internet devoted to those guys, the ones who hate and distrust women, but WANT one so bad.
Seems to me that holding on to their anger is more important to them than succeeding, and that they have made thrones out of their pity pots and are unwilling to get off them.
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Kount_C
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Are you serious ? I rarely ever play a video game.Maybe 1 a year. I do not have cable.I have not watched TV since 2011. Most of my time is spent either working, working out, or doing homework. I’ve come from a “Man” Environment I do not know why you have a twisted interpretation. of what I posted.DUDE: Step away from the video games. Get yourself out among real people. Look in to a Men’s club like “That Man Is You” at the Catholic Church. Attend a Catholic Mens’ Retreat (I suggest ACTS).
Do some volunteer work…help build a Habitat House…work in a food bank… anything.
This stuff, along with isolation is warping your perspective.
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Kount_C
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“To learn how to live” You mean as if I am locked in some basement , afraid to step outside. I’m sure I’ve done more “Living” in the past 20 years of my life then you have mam. I hear nothing but an incomprehensible interpretation of what I’ve posted from your reply.Agreed.
I tried saying the same thing (more or less–I suggested that the OP find a counselor who can help him to “learn how to live”).
The OP was not pleased with me or my suggestion. Hopefully he will listen to you.
But I’m beginning to think that the OP is not real.
AnneElizabeth, you thought many of us were being judgmental of the OP. I would be interested in hearing your response to the OP’s post #44.
I’m watching what I say, to be polite, from what ever naive point of view you read my post.
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Kount_C
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I see you’ve missed the entire prospective of what I’ve posted. by your response.Well, I think you’ve found the answer to your problems…you need to become a cage fighter.
Good luck with that.
I think that’s a good idea. You really need to start dedicating yourself to training, not wasting time on internet forums. And no doubt you’ll find these women you like hanging around your local BJJ academy, trying to latch on to the next GSP or Lesnar.
Good luck with that.
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Kount_C
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Trust me, I don’t need a counselor to “Show me how to live” For what ever reason, you used poor judgement along with your arrogance in an attempt to belittle what I had posted.Agreed.
I tried saying the same thing (more or less–I suggested that the OP find a counselor who can help him to “learn how to live”).
The OP was not pleased with me or my suggestion. Hopefully he will listen to you.
But I’m beginning to think that the OP is not real.
AnneElizabeth, you thought many of us were being judgmental of the OP. I would be interested in hearing your response to the OP’s post #44.
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I've done more living and have made more money in the last 10 years of my life then what you will ever have. My problems are not "finding woman" or having to have "Exposure" to men or how the "World Operates". You can talk to me about living when you have worked 6/10 hour shifts a week in a Rankine Boiler burning rod and taking college level classes at the same time.Or ;shifting through canned goods for the local food bank. I do not need to sit around and sing hymns on an all male retreat to find out that some guys are allowed to be “sensitive” and its ok to be out of shape.
The entire, point of this post, was to find out, if there where other Catholics , that have had other Moral Obligations to home and family, that interfered with their lives. Something you seem to have no exposure to.
If you want to troll on someone, go open a you tube account, please do not do it on CAF
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MacQ
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Sorry…your ‘dojodrifter’ post seemed to be some kind of video game.Are you serious ? I rarely ever play a video game.Maybe 1 a year. I do not have cable.I have not watched TV since 2011. Most of my time is spent either working, working out, or doing homework. I’ve come from a “Man” Environment I do not know why you have a twisted interpretation. of what I posted.
So I guess I should have said “step away from the websites”.
Sorry, I don’t know what a “Man” environment is.
Perhaps I have misjudged, but very often these kinds of threads end up with an almost predictable pattern…the OP feeling trapped…and things devolve from there, with the guy becoming combative toward people who offer sincere advise.
So I’m sorry IF I judged prematurely that that’s where this was all headed. Sure looked like the pattern…
As I said before, I think you’ve made your choices. If you are trapped, it’s because of them (as you do have other options). Choices all come with sacrifices. You want to amass money…the tradeoff is living with Mom.
You want the degree. The tradeoff might be putting off romance.
Not saying tradeoffs aren’t worth it in the long run. Sometimes they are.
Just recognize that’s what it is, a choice. Yours.
Might make you feel better to think of yourself instead as making sacrifices now for what YOU want later.
Yes, there are situations where we have to put ourselves and our needs aside for family needs. That would be ALL the time for parents and spouses. Welcome to the world.
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Kount_C
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Sorry…your ‘dojodrifter’ post seemed to be some kind of video game.
So I guess I should have said “step away from the websites”.
Sorry, I don’t know what a “Man” environment is.
Perhaps I have misjudged, but very often these kinds of threads end up with an almost predictable pattern…the OP feeling trapped…then wailing about how women prefer macho men,(thinking that the bad guys get automatic laydowns from women, and then pretty soon it’s all about how low women are, but I want one so I need to become a badass …and things devolve from there, with the guy becoming combative toward people who offer sincere advise.
So I’m sorry IF I judged prematurely that that’s where this was all headed.
As I said before, I think you’ve made your choices. If you are trapped, it’s because of them (as you do have other options). Choices all come with sacrifices. You want to amass money…the tradeoff is living with Mom.
You want the degree. The tradeoff might be putting off romance.
Not saying tradeoffs aren’t worth it in the long run. Sometimes they are.
Just recognize that’s what it is, a choice. Yours.
Might make you feel better to think of yourself instead as making sacrifices now for what YOU want later.
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With out a doubt, I agree with what you have said. Well written.I don’t have a problem talking to or meeting woman, that is not an issue. But like you said “Choices” made. I’d like to further my education but time and money , are both calling. How much student debt do I want ? How much older do I want to be when I settle down?
In the long run, if you want to have courtship, time is a big issue as well.
If a man wants to take on a woman who already has one or two children, there is excessive baggage in those cases. Which is the unfortunate residue of my generation and beyond.
Yes. I do find more value in having 50k in my pocket working over time; traveling the Caribbean on my weekends off. Then be married to a woman with two children from a previous marriage; constantly dealing with Drama from her Ex Husband.
That’s called, all things relevant.
Cheers! and God bless,
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