Trayvon Martin: Before the world heard the cries

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TheRealJuliane said:
No, there was a formal neighborhood watch program in place. I belong to such a program. We had to go and listen to a police officer explain what we are charged to do and not to do. We merely patrol our streets with magnetic signs on our car. In our program, we are told specifically NOT to take our weapons with us in the car. I am not sure if everyone obeys this charge, but I do. I take my cell phone with me and if I see anything suspicious, I make a call and leave the area. I do not follow, I do not chase. I do not know if Zimmerman’s neighborhood watch program is under such a charge, not to carry. Even if they are, that is a separate question and has no bearing on this case.

I cannot say if George Zimmerman had a reason to follow Trayvon Martin. I was not there. None of us were. He was told, “You don’t need to do that,” by the dispatcher. Would it have been better had he agreed not to follow Martin? Yes, it would have. That, we all agree on. It is a tragedy that Martin is dead.

I cannot say if Zimmerman was in fear of his life. I was not there. None of us were. I pray that he will get a fair trial, although I can’t see how that will happen.
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Source that there was a neighborhood watch program in place? Everything I’ve seen has indicated that there was not, that there was just Zimmerman.

I’m not trying to be rude, but I haven’t seen anything that shows that and its contrary to everything I’ve read about this.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
You have insinuated in your last post about this that I don’t know criminal law. I do. 😦 😦
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I know a little myself.

You seemed to insinuate that a woman emptying all six shots into a threat was comparable to the man who reloaded and continued firing into the non-threat.
 
maryjk said:
No, it was based on what he SAID.

Based on what he said, he doesn’t believe that the accusations were false.
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Based on what he said,
you have concluded:
“Unless he has apologized recently, he doesn’t plan to ever do it.”

Your “conclusion” is equal to ONE opinion.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
So, you are only allowed to be safe in your house?

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness…as long as you are in your house.”

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Since when is shooting people in the street an inalienable right?
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
That’s too bad, because they are down there actively calling for interracial war and bloodshed.
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And so is the American Nazi Party, and so are people at Stormfront. And all three are fringe groups without the capacity to do anything at all.
 
Cider said:
Oh please, the only reason Sharpton apologized is because he got what he wanted. He would have been crying racism if there had been no charges even if there was no evidence to charge. At this point we have to wait and see what the trial shows the evidence is. But Sharpton has proven time and again to play the race card to further his own agenda.

If the Martin parents want calm then maybe they shouldn’t be standing next to people screaming that Trayvon was hunted down like a rabid dog. I personally do not stand by and say nothing when people spout off outrageous claims that I personally disavow.
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I defend the Martin’s right (as I have before) to associate with whoever they chose to get attention to their child’s killing. When you lose a child tragically/senselessly and the police refuse to arrest his shooter, that not exactly the time to care what the neighbors think.

Sharpton is no worse than a much revered, similarly audaciously loquacious, broadcaster who is often viogorously defended on this board for making the basest of comments about all sorts of people. He too, has often been accused of race-baiting BUT, if I had to engage said broadcaster in the interest of getting justice for my child, I most definitely would.

Sorry, but the Martins are not bound to anyone else’s selective personal codes of conduct, particularly not those specially crafted in their honor.

Unencumbered by said codes, they have engaged who they needed to get done what needed to be done. Otherwise, they’d simply be sitting at home hugging a picture of their dead child for whose killing NOBODY would ever have been brought to account!
 
seekerz said:
And which media would that be exactly? On all the networks I watch, there are always people of more than one race, and that includes supporters of Zimmerman.
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Television? That still exists?

The little bit of news that I get to see is all online and I have yet to see any article calling for Zimmerman’s death that wasn’t limited to the opinion of some moron who happens to be black.🤷
 
catharina said:
Based on what he said,
you have concluded:
“Unless he has apologized recently, he doesn’t plan to ever do it.”

Your “conclusion” is equal to ONE opinion.
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No Pegones won his suit against Sharpton so it is more than one opinion.
 
Calgar said:
I know a little myself.

You seemed to insinuate that a woman emptying all six shots into a threat was comparable to the man who reloaded and continued firing into the non-threat.
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You said, “the judges asks the mother why she shot the man 6 times…She replies that she ran out of bullets.”

The implication was that she would have shot him more times had she more ammunition. That’s the parallel with the druggist who reloaded and kept shooting. Yes, that would have been comparable, had she access to more bullets.
 
Lujack said:
And so is the American Nazi Party, and so are people at Stormfront. And all three are fringe groups without the capacity to do anything at all.
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Really? So far I haven’t seen anyone acting out violence in Zimmermans name. On the other hand, we have a shot up police car across the street from the Zimmermans complex and at least 1 white man in the hospital after being dragged from his car with cries of Trayvon by his attackers as they beat him with a hammer and drag him to a field and leave him for dead.
 
Dawnia said:
Television? That still exists?

The little bit of news that I get to see is all online and I have yet to see any article calling for Zimmerman’s death that wasn’t limited to the opinion of some moron who happens to be black.🤷
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News flash: websites, unless they belong to reputable new organizations, generally are set up to promote the opinion of the person/people who own them.

I’m guessing the use of words like “moron” to describe people with a different opinion, is not included in that “behavior code” I referenced in my previous post.

Pardon me, but your slip is showing…
 
Lujack said:
And so is the American Nazi Party, and so are people at Stormfront. And all three are fringe groups without the capacity to do anything at all.
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Except for those other groups, they didn’t shoot up a car and threaten violence. If I was in charge, every one of them that broke the law(s) would be put in jail.
 
Cider said:
Really? So far I haven’t seen anyone acting out violence in Zimmermans name. On the other hand, we have a shot up police car across the street from the Zimmermans complex and at least 1 white man in the hospital after being dragged from his car with cries of Trayvon by his attackers as they beat him with a hammer and drag him to a field and leave him for dead.
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Do we know who shot up the police car? Source for that beating incident you mention?
 
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