Blessings, Don!
I’m gonna answer here and then get off the thread for good--------I’m getting very depressed and very angry about this (may God in His Infinite Mercy forgive me) and this confirms my suspicion that our society is going to h**ll in the near future.
“If he had kept walking he would be still be alive.” Some would say, had George Zimmerman not seemingly followed him for no reason except Martin looked “suspicious” (I’ve yet to hear what that entailed in his case), maybe TM (IF, again, IF) he did something “drastic” would not have felt “threatened” (as Curtis Sliwa of Guardian Angels stated on TV) and indeed done something “drastic.” I’m sorry, I tend to GZ could have overreacted and become the aggressor here.
So if somebody is following you for no reason and refuses to identify himself, I am not entiled to confront that person? At least ask WHY? And Martin was entitled to be there-----it’s not like was a stranger. Buying food for his brother.
You disagree with me, fine.
As to those killings that go unreported-------
This was a case of a kid with NO police record being killed by a NON-COP who, while not acfting illegally in carrying a gun, was not required to as Neighborhood Watch guy. Those others were cases of CRIMINAL kids.
Even Trayvon’s parents say this is not a racial thing but about vigilantism. It’s OTHER people------extremists-----who have “provoked.” And TM’S parents have decried that.
That was not required of him, Don. And I don’t care if the 911 operator “suggested” or “ordered” him to leave off the chase. She was an authority figure---------and most folks consider them to be working a close arm of the police. I would take it as saying “DO NOT DO THIS.” I would not worry about semantics and subtlety at that time. You can say “it was not within her purview to say that.” I disagree.
THAT’S the difference.
Oh yeah----the giuy who sponsored “stand your ground” into law is now saying GZ doesn’t fit within the definition of “stand your ground.” what about that?
I can’t believe this. Our country is going back to the Wild West--------act the “wrong” way and I will kill you. No respect for life from ANYBODY-----Good or Bad. I’m getting ill and depressed about this. I will have to rely on God and Christ more.
Through the Prayers of the Mother Of God, have mercy on us and save us. Amen.
Good evening, Ordinary Melkite,
Thank you, for your blessing, it’s appreciated.
Citizen, from what I understand, both men were aggressive and both men were wrong. The witch hunt on George Zimmerman will not bring Trayvon Martin back to life. Only our Lord and Savior can do that, on Judgement Day.
I have not whitewashed either man. Nor have I belittled the Sanford, Fla PD nor DA. I think the miscarriage of justice is the media inflaming the situation.
I’m sorry. I think it’s tragic that Trayvon got himself killed. Like I’ve written before, the cultural context of Gangsta Rap makes adolescents aggressive and violent. And, all these attacks on self-defense laws merely leave innocent citizens unarmed in the face of vicious criminals. It wasn’t George Zimmerman who witnesses said was sitting on Trayvon and beating him. The eye-witnesses said it was the other way around. And, that act of sitting on George and beating his face and banging his head on concrete was an aggressive and vicious act. All the rhetoric and everything else won’t change that fact. And Trayvon sitting on George while he beat his face and banged his head on concrete, was a crime.
Until parents, teachers and media teach school children that they can get killed while committing crimes, then parents, teachers and media are complicit in Trayvon Martin’s death. Because, he died while committing a crime. When I was a boy, parents, teachers and the media taught that crime could get you killed. In those days, there were a lot more guns, a whole lot less drugs, and less killings.
Now, thanks to the 1960’s counter-revolution against our 1776 Revolution, there’s a whole lot more drugs, less guns, and more blacks killing blacks than ever when we were taught to fear God.
Hmmm, is that why this killing is blown out of proportion? To distract from the tragedy of blacks killing blacks, that nobody does anything about?
People who think gun laws will reduce crime are naive: because criminals break laws, will break gun laws and arm themselves.
What makes me angry is the arrogance and witch hunt of the people who want George Zimmerman deprived of his, and my, and their, Constitutional rights.
The arrogance and witch hunt of people who think George Zimmerman should be on trial infuriates me. Those people disrespect and damage our criminal justice system, by acting or speaking like they know better than the Sanford PD or DA. You don’t know better, and I repeat, your kind is dangerous to the lives, rights and liberties of every American citizen. May God spare America the kind of justice that those people want against George Zimmerman.
Well, since you wrote that you were leaving this thread, I don’t know if you will even read this.
I respect your compassion for Trayvon Martin’s family. I pray for the repose of his soul. I need to pray for the soul of the black community, if Gangsta Rap represents it. When I was young, the Supremes, Righteous Brothers, Sidney Portier and other such people represented the soul of the black community. Music is a people’s soul.
God loves you,
Don
