Trump and his nicknames

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I agree Trump will most likely win although I’m not yet sure it will be a landslide. The fault though is with the Democrats, since they have absolutely NO viable candidate who knows what they are doing and has the temperament and charisma necessary to defeat Trump at his own game. The forerunners are, in my view, a rather pathetic lot.
 
yes, the economy has nothing to do with it. The dems are going to tell everyone the economy was already on the mend. The fact is the party in the white house gets the blame or the credit. What will be internesting to watch is the house and the senate races
 
e is a real shyster, and simply applies his business lack of ethics to his politics
Or so your friend has concluded. But one might ask whether there is any other way to do business in NYC.
Sorry to those who believe he has upright views and just talks about them using overly-blunt language, but if you look at his verified quotes or listen to what he says…not so much.
Lots of people talk tougher than they act. That’s as common as dirt, and doesn’t mean much. I once had a business partner who talked a meaner game than Trump. But he was actually a decent man.

But let’s say Trump means every mean thing he ever says, that’s still not the yardstick of a good president. The proper yardstick is his policies as carried out or at least attempted. Like many, I have little to argue with when it comes to that.
NO viable candidate who knows what they are doing and has the temperament and charisma necessary to defeat Trump at his own game.
Agreed. But I’m not looking forward to a time when we’re governed by that sort. And unfortunately, it will come eventually.
 
I think you are absolutely right.
That is why I am confused about so much Catholic support.
 
But let’s say Trump means every mean thing he ever says, that’s still not the yardstick of a good president.
It’s one of them. Of course it is.
Agreed. But I’m not looking forward to a time when we’re governed by that sort. And unfortunately, it will come eventually.
It is here now. We have “that sort” in the White House right now. That’s what won the last election.
(Bloomberg is probably that sort… he knows how it is to survive and thrive with the media of and in the City of New York. They play hardball there.)
I think you are absolutely right.
That is why I am confused about so much Catholic support.
It boils down to the candidate who opposes abortion. I think that’s why so many Catholics support him in spite of other things they don’t agree with. I found him an unacceptable candidate, so whatever positive things he promises isn’t going to change that any more than some Democrat who is in favor of abortion rights is going to get my vote if they do enough for the poor.

Some may have voted for them with this idea that he’s going to change same-sex marriage and some things like that, but like Barack Obama he did a 180 degree turn on that.
 
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Mike Bloomberg (who is financially worth over 60 billion, far more than Trump), is a decent businessman as well as a clever one. And his tenure as Mayor of New York was a good one (as was Giuliani’s before he lost his mind). I believe Bloomberg could beat Trump and, more important, would be a good President: liberal yes but not leftist. However, he would probably not be elected or even nominated for at least two reasons: one is that he lacks name recognition across the country and second, the country is not quite ready for a Jewish POTUS.
 
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Mike Bloomberg (who is financially worth over 60 billion, far more than Trump, is a decent businessman as well as a clever one. And his tenure as Mayor of New York was a good one (as was Giuliani’s before he lost his mind). I believe Bloomberg could be Trump and, more important, would be a good President: liberal yes but not leftist. However, he would probably not be elected or even nominated for at least two reasons: one is that he lacks name recognition across the country and second, the country is not quite ready for a Jewish president.
Like I said, I’m not making any guesses about what the US is or isn’t ready for. Not for the presidency, not in February. Uh-uh. No way.
 
It boils down to the candidate who opposes abortion. I think that’s why so many Catholics support him in spite of other things they don’t agree with
Like what? Lower income taxes? Defeating ISIS? What?
one is that he lacks name recognition across the country and second, the country is not quite ready for a Jewish POTUS.
Add a third. He’s not liberal enough for the Dem party nowadays.
 
That’s true: the Democratic party has shifted to the extreme left, no denying it.
 
Like what? Lower income taxes? Defeating ISIS? What?
Actually, yes, I think there are Catholics who would vote for the Democrats if the Democrats weren’t pro-abortion who actually voted for Donald Trump because he is pro-life.

It is no mystery why people who want to lower taxes and cut social services vote for him or why people who like to hear Mexican immigrants painted as if they were all rapists and drug dealers vote for him. It is no mystery why people who eat up his name-calling or his “alternative facts” vote for him.

The question is why people who don’t like those things would vote for him, anyway. The answer is that they feel they have to cast a vote that is pro-life and put up with the rest rather than not vote for either candidate.
 
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SCOTUS identified it as a constitutional right. So what can they do?
 
I think you are absolutely right.
That is why I am confused about so much Catholic support.
But Catholics support Clinton, who we know through the Clinton foundation accepted pay for play donations. You can believe all you want that Joe biden and his family isnt corrupt but when you line up the events once he became the VP, his family bellied up to the pig trough. It doestn take much effort to show that most of congress over the past 60 years has been for sale.
 
SCOTUS identified it as a constitutional right. So what can they do?
Are you talking about Obergefell v. Hodges or Roe v. Wade?

(Or both? I’m not sure I get your point, but Obergefell v. Hodges was decided on June 26, 2015
This was the Republican Party platform statement on same-sex marriage in 2016:
Traditional marriage and family, based on marriage between one man and one woman, is the foundation for a free society and has for millennia been entrusted with rearing children and instilling cultural values. We condemn the Supreme Court’s ruling in United States v. Windsor, which wrongly removed the ability of Congress to define marriage policy in federal law. We also condemn the Supreme Court’s lawless ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges, which in the words of the late Justice Antonin Scalia, was a “judicial Putsch” — full of “silly extravagances” — that reduced “the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Storey to the mystical aphorisms of a fortune cookie.”

I think that implies Donald Trump ran in opposition to same-sex marriage but then said, “oh, it is a done deal, that’s it” as soon as he was elected. (Thankfully, though, that is also exactly what he did with his chant of “Lock her up!” As soon as he was elected, he said he wanted to leave the Clintons alone.)
 
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Pay for play isn’t true for one reason.
Something unsubstantiated does not become substantiated once it is said some large threshold number of times on FOX.
THAT IS ACTUALLY THE SCIENTIFIC REASON. LOL
Honestly, the Clinton foundation has more hostile eyeballs in it to destroy people than any entity on earth. And nothing.
 
I havent watch fox news in years. The foundation had millions and million in promised donation pulled back once she lost the election. She knew the score. Using capital letters doesnt make your post any more accurate.
 
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He obviously never left Hillary alone.
OBERGEFELL had Kennedy. The GOP appointee if I recall.
 
But Catholics support Clinton, who we know through the Clinton foundation accepted pay for play donations. You can believe all you want that Joe biden and his family isnt corrupt but when you line up the events once he became the VP, his family bellied up to the pig trough. It doestn take much effort to show that most of congress over the past 60 years has been for sale.
Non-hispanic White Catholics supported Trump 60-37.
Hispanic Catholics voted 67-26 in favor of Clinton.

It is kind of funny how painting an entire immigrant population from one nation as rapists and drug dealers importing crime and “not their best” sounds a good deal different when that is the population that people take you for on the bus. When a candidate says, They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us." and those people who are coming do in fact look exactly like you, you aren’t bought off by “And some, I assume, are good people” as if none of them were his employees at the very moment he said it.

As for pigs at the trough, don’t even get me started with Donald “I’m a greedy person” Trump who thinks that bragging about all the money he makes and yet not paying taxes would make him “smart.” That is supposed to attract voters who actually believe that you can’t serve both God and Mammon?

Yeah, right. The people who vote Trump because it is the only realistic way they can see to vote pro-life, I can respect. The people who paint the Clintons as greedy-bad but Trump as greedy-good? Hmmm…
 
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People pulled money back? That makes sense. She did nothing illegal did she?
Do Trump supporters follow this because Trump had a consent decree actually misusing funds. And an order he may not have a charity?
 
When I was a stranger you did not welcome me.
Matthew 25. It is the only passage in the Gospel where Jesus actually judges and condemns to fiery gahana
 
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