Trump and his nicknames

[PetraG]

He obviously never left Hillary alone.

He talks about the Clintons only when he needs to get the spotlight away from the curtain he’s standing behind, the Great and Terrible Oz that he is.

 

[PetraG]

When I was a stranger you did not welcome me.
Matthew 25. It is the only passage in the Gospel where Jesus actually judges and condemns to fiery gahana

Forgot this one: Whoever says, ‘You fool,’ will be liable to fiery Gehenna. (Matt 5:22)
Lest we rationalize that getting angry with someone and calling him names is always a small matter.

Oh, and adultery, too: It is better for you to lose one of your members than to have your whole body go into Gehenna. (Matt. 5:30) which isn’t exactly the way the Gospel is preached by a certain guest I could think of on Howard Stern’s radio show.

So, let us hope the President gives up his habits of talking glibly about sex with women not his wife and giving nasty names to people who have angered him. Let us hope he will re-read the story of the Last Judgment and look for ways to help the destitute and the immigrant and so on.

Any of us can mend our ways, and all of us have faults that need mercy. That doesn’t mean we ought to get votes from Catholics when we brag about being fond of our vices. To encourage the President to think these things don’t matter or could win him popularity is putting him in a near occasion of sin for him, after all. It would not be right to be more concerned about his politics than for his soul.

 

[vz71]

Nomination for which party?

 

[meltzerboy2]

Bloomberg is running for the Democratic nomination.

 

[Maximus1]

When he talks about the Clinton’s it is hard to tell if it is his abnormal pathology or his calculation that it appeals to his voters pathology.

 

[Maximus1]

Or calling other human beings an INFESTATION

 

[phil3]

INFESTATION

yes, the ms-13 members are an infestation. Infestation-“To inhabit or overrun in numbers or quantities large enough to be harmful, threatening, or obnoxious.” I wonder how many of them you allow to live in your house?

 

[Maximus1]

He called the MS-13( or at least thatvwas the post statement explanation) names more akin to the actual bugs insects etc.
No, infestation was just the run of the mill peasants who showed up at the border.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Another reason why people remain staunch Trump supporters is that they’re tired of the mischaracterizations of Trump and themselves in descriptions like this:

It is no mystery why people who want to lower taxes and cut social services vote for him or why people who like to hear Mexican immigrants painted as if they were all rapists and drug dealers vote for him. It is no mystery why people who eat up his name-calling or his “alternative facts” vote for him.

It’s right there with “deplorables” and “bitter clingers” and “smelly Walmart shoppers”. Those who like Trump’s accomplishments know it’s not so much Trump the left despises as it is themselves.

 

[Ridgerunner]

So, let us hope the President gives up his habits of talking glibly about sex with women not his wife and giving nasty names to people who have angered him. Let us hope he will re-read the story of the Last Judgment and look for ways to help the destitute and the immigrant and so on.

And perhaps those who support the killing of millions of children with their votes will realize there is no possibility whatever of justifying mass murder with personality complaints or arguments for economic benefits their party promises but never actually delivers.

I remember reading how the residents of ancient Carthage sacrificed their children to Moloch by burning them alive because they expected economic benefit by doing it. And today, we are seeing the very same thing. It’s just that now we burn the bodies after killing them instead of before.

 

[Maximus1]

You can like his accomplishments all you like.
Then there are other issues other people don’t like. They aren’t make believe. There are plenty of examples of name calling. Names that dehumanize.
There is unprecedented and public acts of retribution easily identified. This is troubling from the most powerful man on Earth who has an AG to investigate domestic political enemies, and an ex mayor to investigate anticipated political enemies.
He is vindictive.
You have those Hillary words from what? Two speeches from 2016?
It isn’t an equivilent

 

[Maximus1]

Wasn’t Low Energy Jeb one of the first?
Tiny Marco was it?
Everyone who does not fall in line gets one. In a free state.

 

[dvdjs]

who we know through the Clinton foundation accepted pay for play donations

We know that the Trump foundation was closed as a fraud.
We know that opponent make claims the Clinton foundation accepted pay for play donations

The foundation had millions and million in promised donation pulled back once she lost the election

Pulled back? Do you have a link?

It’s right there …

Perhasp. If by that you mean that @PetraG’s post can be twisted inside outy same way as other remarks you allude to have been. Utterly inside out.

It doestn take much effort to show that most of congress over the past 60 years has been for sale.

But it does take effort to discern the truth.

 

[Ridgerunner]

You can like his accomplishments all you like.

I do. And so do you if you’re prolife, at least as to allowing the Little Sisters to avoid Obama’s punishment if they did not provide abortifacients, to reinstating the Mexico City Policy, and appointing two prolife justices and a number of lower judges.

Then there are other issues other people don’t like. They aren’t make believe. There are plenty of examples of name calling. Names that dehumanize.

So he lowers your taxes, appoints prolife justices, defeats ISIS, increases employment, but you condemn him root and branch because he calls some of the most powerful and vain people on earth silly names? At least (to my knowledge) he hasn’t called any of them “Russian agents” yet.

There is unprecedented and public acts of retribution easily identified.

Identify them for us then.

 

[Maximus1]

I wrote two lenthy posts on retribution today. Find them if you are interested. I’m not typing it again today.
Abortion is no different since 2016. I am not sure what little sisters is, to respond. If you vote for him over little sisters that’s your choice. I don’t know either way.
He appointed two pro business anti labor justices. That concerns me. So far their pro life position is private.
If you have passive investment, a C- Corp, and high income his greatest accomplishment was helping you. 250 million Americans + don’t. General Maddox quit on the spot for taking actions he deems will reconstitute Isis. Of course Trump berates Generals who clearly miss Trump’s Draft dodger expertise.
You give him credit for unemployment in what is now a 10 year cycle. That’s ok. The unemployment rate is low. President’s get credit.
I overlook nothing. They seek retribution against this government worker who dared to be a Whistleblower as I write. To destroy him. All he did was report what the inspector general said was credible. What the facts shows was credible. What Bolton says is credible. Ruining his life is a priority. That is how you silent people.
Speaking of Bolton in the last two days Vanity Fair and Newsweek both wrote pieces about how BOLTON RETRIBUTION BEGINS soon after the vote. The Republican operative interviewed says the goal will be jail time as retribution.

 

[PetraG]

Another reason why people remain staunch Trump supporters is that they’re tired of the mischaracterizations of Trump and themselves in descriptions like this:

(Please Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.) PetraG:

It is no mystery why people who want to lower taxes and cut social services vote for him or why people who like to hear Mexican immigrants painted as if they were all rapists and drug dealers vote for him. It is no mystery why people who eat up his name-calling or his “alternative facts” vote for him.

No, no, let me clarify:
If you want lower taxes and if you want to cut social services, be honest: who do you vote for?
If you actually like to hear someone say What can be simpler or more accurately stated? The Mexican Government is forcing their most unwanted people into the United States. They are, in many cases, criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc or When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people. who do you vote for?
If you actually like his name-calling–and some people do–then who do you vote for?
If you actually believe in concepts like “alternative facts” then whose Administration is talking to you?

For those who like those things, voting for Trump is no mystery.

I am saying that there are those who absolutely do not like any of those things who will vote for him again anyway because they want a President who stands against abortion. This is a mystery to some people, but it isn’t a mystery if you understand the priority of the pro-life stance.

There are also people who care a lot about his name-calling, both for and against, and who really don’t care about abortion who vote for him for other reasons still, such as a belief that he’s good for their personal finances or that he is good for business and will provide more jobs than any likely opponent nominated by the Democrats.

That is always the thing. It isn’t a matter of liking Trump in some ultimate way in every single way, or at least it doesn’t have to be. Not everybody who voted for him actually thinks he’s better for the nation than George Washington was, that he’s literally the greatest President ever elected. (The absurdity of that claim, by the way, was proven to me by how often it was said before he was ever sworn in. That’s a sports cheer, not an historical analysis.)

It is a matter of comparing his Presidency overall to the likely Presidency that the nation will get from an opponent. Then it is time to choose: vote for Trump, vote for an opponent, write-in some candidate who represents what you want even if you can’t realistically have it, or abstain.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I wrote two lenthy posts on retribution today. Find them if you are interested.

I’m not that interested, and apparently neither are you.

I am not sure what little sisters is, to respond.

Obama tacked what is known as the “HHS Mandate” as a regulation onto Obamacare. It requires all employers to provide contraceptive and abortifacient coverage to employees. The Mandate narrowed it so that the Little Sisters of the Poor were required to provide the coverage. The Little Sisters and other Catholic organizations filed suit to prevent being forced to follow the Mandate. If the Little Sisters lost and did not obey, they would be fined so heavily that they would have to give up their mission. Trump withdrew it.

his greatest accomplishment was helping you

If you pay income taxes, you were helped too. Tell Gen. Maddox that ISIS is not reconstituted yet, at least.

Again, since you don’t want to disclose what retribution you think Trump has visited on people, I guess you’re conceding that he hasn’t.

If you accept as true everything the fake whistleblower has disclosed it’s still nothing. Bolton has so far said nothing beyond the speculation others attribute to his speculation. . . .

 

[Ridgerunner]

Possibly most people who support Trump remember his addition to the “big wall” statement, that it would have a “big door” to admit legal immigrants. The left doesn’t ever cite that part, preferring to call trump and his supporters racist. We’re not as stupid as Dems think.

Never have I said he’s George Washington or the greatest president ever elected.

It is a matter of comparing his Presidency overall to the likely Presidency that the nation will get from an opponent.

True. And since I do not want to have to explain someday to my Creator that I supported the murder of millions of his children for the sake of e.g, forgiveness of college loans, it’s easy enough to see that the opponent is not the right choice.

 

[PetraG]

Ah yes. The anonymous fake source used to generate fake news.

What kind of news do you call it when the source is “a lot of people are saying”? What about the people in Hawaii Donald Trump said he had who were finding things they couldn’t believe who…well, did those people even exist? What about when you claim there was voter fraud when there isn’t evidence for it and your own fraud commission couldn’t find any? What about a conversation with the President of Finland that never happened? What about "“They saved 16,000 people, many of them in Texas, for whatever reason that is,” Trump said. “People went out in their boats to watch the hurricane. That didn’t work out too well.” What?!? What people? What dark recess does he pull this stuff out of?

I don’t think a dislike of fake news is a reason to vote for Donald Trump. He is a fake news machine. I don’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth is correct any more unless I have it verified independently. Why? He makes things up when there is no clear reason why he’d make things up. I don’t know, he just wants to have the biggest thing to say? He’s that guy who can’t hear that you have a rock in your backyard without telling you about some rock associated with him that’s bigger?

I dunno. I do know Donald Trump doesn’t let facts get in the way of a sales pitch. In Art of the Deal, he referred to that as “truthful hyperbole.” I call it making stuff up.

I am so sick of people calling the media on “fake news” and yet giving Donald Trump a total pass on all his obvious fabrications, I could gag.

Don’t even get me started on the beautiful and better replacement for Obamacare or the Wall: that is, the real policy matters that he’s sold on “hyperbole” that is really thin on any truth whatsoever. (Did you see any health care plan from him? I didn’t.) Let’s quit pretending that support for Donald Trump does not require a very high tolerance for making up “facts” for the sake of telling a good story.

 

[PetraG]

True. And since I do not want to have to explain someday to my Creator that I supported the murder of millions of his children for the sake of e.g, forgiveness of college loans, it’s easy enough to see that the opponent is not the right choice.

I do not fear that I will be judged harshly for refusing to vote for someone who habitually spreads lies. I know who the Father of Lies is. It is impossible that I have a moral duty to vote for someone who is that fast and easy about telling false stories. By my personal investigations, he is in a class by himself. That takes some doing, friend.

Maybe that leaves me with no one to vote for who can possibly win, but there is no moral duty to vote for a winner. I can understand why people feel they were morally-bound to vote for Donald Trump, but that does not explain why they feel they have to make excuses for inexcusable behavior. That is a mystery to me. It seems to me that they ought to feel morally-bound to stand up to the choice they supported when he does things like that. Worse yet, though, is when they attack others for doing less than he does and painting him as if he were some kind of a victim who had no choice but to “strike back.” That really goes over the top.

Yeah, that is Father of Lies stuff. It does not bode well for this nation and what wagon we’ll hitch ourselves to if that is what it takes to “win.”