Trump / Clinton--Final Presidential Debate Thread

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Which might matter if the American people were going to allow Trump 100 days in the White House. In fact, we will not offer him a second there.

But there’s a nice hotel down the street for him to find shelter and comfort, so he’s got that going for him.
I wonder if he chose American rather than Chinese steel on this one.

A Newsweek investigation has found that in at least two of Trump’s last three construction projects, Trump opted to purchase his steel and aluminum from Chinese manufacturers rather than United States corporations based in states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin. In other instances, he abandoned steel altogether, instead choosing the far-less-expensive option of buying concrete from various companies, including some linked to the Luchese and Genovese crime families. Trump has never been accused of engaging in any wrongdoing for his business dealings with those companies, but it’s true that the Mafia has long controlled much of the concrete industry in New York.

newsweek.com/how-donald-trump-ditched-us-steel-workers-china-505717

And then there was an investigation on whether he was paying workers less than the law requires.

politico.com/story/2016/06/trump-dc-hotel-investigation-labor-department-224678

And if he relied on workers who arrived in the US illegally while at the same time he rails against those who cross the border illegally to his rally followers who cheer him on.

washingtonpost.com/local/they-say-they-arrived-in-the-us-illegally-now-theyre-working-on-trumps-dc-hotel/2015/07/06/9a785116-20ec-11e5-84d5-eb37ee8eaa61_story.html
 
You have to give up the life you planned, to find the one that’s waiting for you unless you are an unborn child in the land of Personanonggrata and her heroine Hillary - then you have no life waiting for you beyond your mother’s womb … you have no Constitutional Right to Life, Liberty or the Pursuit of Happiness … you are worthless

Go Hillary … 👍 … lets export Abortion overseas - the Culture of non- Life is a real bonus for the world at large :rolleyes:
Oh, stop.
😛
 
I still don’t understand why a woman would wait NINE MONTHS – going through all the morning sickness, going through all the maternity wardrobe – and waits until THE VERY LAST MINUTE to suddenly decide, “Oopsies! I think I will kill this baby.” Who does that? I don’t even think there are any abortionists who kill babies when the mother’s going into labor.

Do you have any evidence - any proof - to substantiate the fear that if Hillary gets in, that abortionists will be going around ripping babies out of wombs en masse and murdering them? Particularly when abortions have decreased, not increased? On what basis do you believe there will be an uptick in “partial birth abortions”?

Early-term abortions kill babies, too. There’s so much attention paid to “partial birth abortions,” it’s easy to forget that first-trimester abortions are the ones that are most affordable ($300-$400) and which most abortionists will still do – meanwhile, the cost of childbirth continues to get more and more expensive ($5,000-$6,000+) and yet, I haven’t heard anything from Trump as to how he’ll make it easier to choose life.
The partial birth abortion ban is a ban on just one specific abortion procedure. It isn’t a blanket ban on late term abortions. Late term abortions are still legal, states may regulate them, but they must be permitted according to Roe if there is risks to the life or health of the mother. Currently, there are only a handful of doctors who perform late term abortions. Instead of partial birth, they inject the baby with a poison and the deliver a dead baby.

While the ban on the specific procedure was good, and that was a particularly gruesome procedure, it did nothing to make late term abortions illegal completely.
 
The partial birth abortion ban is a ban on just one specific abortion procedure. It isn’t a blanket ban on late term abortions. Late term abortions are still legal, states may regulate them, but they must be permitted according to Roe if there is risks to the life or health of the mother. Currently, there are only a handful of doctors who perform late term abortions. Instead of partial birth, they inject the baby with a poison and the deliver a dead baby.

While the ban on the specific procedure was good, and that was a particularly gruesome procedure, it did nothing to make late term abortions illegal completely.
lifenews.com/2016/10/25/18000-babies-die-in-3rd-trimester-abortions-every-year-in-the-united-states/

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18000 babies die in 3rd trimester abortions every year in the United States.

It is much more frequent than the main stream media would have us believe.
 
Which might matter if the American people were going to allow Trump 100 days in the White House. In fact, we will not offer him a second there.

But there’s a nice hotel down the street for him to find shelter and comfort, so he’s got that going for him.
Because we want that industrial size global corruption. Idiocracy, life now imitates art.
 
twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/791398814049456128

It’s a funny thing when Hillary lied about ducking under sniper fire. Who would lie about something like that? What’s the point?
I looked at her claimed top accomplishments (her website) and they are weak/stolen.
  1. Fought for children and families for 40 years and counting.
    So she’s passionate about them, after they are born that is. But where is the meat on what she did? Details matter.
  2. Helped provide millions of children with health care.
    She’s referring to the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) passed when she was FLOTUS, but it’s a lie to give her any major credit. The white house fought this bill at the outset. Ted Kennedy & Orrin Hatch wrote the bill and pushed it through, not Hillary.
  3. Helped get 9/11 first responders the health care they needed.
    She did advocate for it, but was not even in the Senate when this law was made.
  4. Told the world that “women’s rights are human rights.”
    Yes she gave a good speech in China, but it failed to cause any change. When Kennedy gave a good speech, we went to the moon. When Reagan gave a good speech, they did “tear down this (Berlin) wall”. Leadership requires constructive action as follow up to the speech.
  5. Stood up for LGBT rights at home and abroad.
    This is actually a recent development for her, she saw the wind shift rather than lead the way. She also prefers $$ from the Middle East rather than pushing reform in their discrimination against LGBT. Net, I’m not aware of any accomplishments here.
  6. Helped expand health care and family leave for military families.
    Hillary didn’t sponsor any of the legislation behind this claim. Everyone in Congress is claiming to “work” on behalf of vets and their families.
  7. Negotiated a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas.
    So Hillary’s most significant accomplishment as Sec of State was helping end a week-long skirmish between Israel and Hamas? I guess since she can’t brag about Libya, Iran, or Russia Reset, that’s all she’s left with in the Plus column.
 
I looked at her claimed top accomplishments (her website) and they are weak/stolen.
  1. Fought for children and families for 40 years and counting.
    So she’s passionate about them, after they are born that is. But where is the meat on what she did? Details matter.
  2. Helped provide millions of children with health care.
    She’s referring to the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) passed when she was FLOTUS, but it’s a lie to give her any major credit. The white house fought this bill at the outset. Ted Kennedy & Orrin Hatch wrote the bill and pushed it through, not Hillary.
  3. Helped get 9/11 first responders the health care they needed.
    She did advocate for it, but was not even in the Senate when this law was made.
  4. Told the world that “women’s rights are human rights.”
    Yes she gave a good speech in China, but it failed to cause any change. When Kennedy gave a good speech, we went to the moon. When Reagan gave a good speech, they did “tear down this (Berlin) wall”. Leadership requires constructive action as follow up to the speech.
  5. Stood up for LGBT rights at home and abroad.
    This is actually a recent development for her, she saw the wind shift rather than lead the way. She also prefers $$ from the Middle East rather than pushing reform in their discrimination against LGBT. Net, I’m not aware of any accomplishments here.
  6. Helped expand health care and family leave for military families.
    Hillary didn’t sponsor any of the legislation behind this claim. Everyone in Congress is claiming to “work” on behalf of vets and their families.
  7. Negotiated a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas.
    So Hillary’s most significant accomplishment as Sec of State was helping end a week-long skirmish between Israel and Hamas? I guess since she can’t brag about Libya, Iran, or Russia Reset, that’s all she’s left with in the Plus column.
She made a millions of $$s selling the office of Secretary of State … She created a new Family Political Dynasty - the “Clinton’s” … and she sold herself to George Soros - who was the highest bidder and to a host of others who participated in the “Pay for Play” schemes … she is successful … but its all for personal gain
 
She made a millions of $$s selling the office of Secretary of State … She created a new Family Political Dynasty - the “Clinton’s” … and she sold herself to George Soros - who was the highest bidder and to a host of others who participated in the “Pay for Play” schemes … she is successful … but its all for personal gain
She is deplorable…
 
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Word salad now imitates leadership.
Leadership.? Here is real leadership

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Then there is I’m Secretary of State, brought to you by Carl’s Jr.
 
I’m a trump supporter but this site is just downright evil for putting out false information like that. To anyone with a trained eye it doesn’t even read like pope Francis talks at all. But I’m just appalled at it. Wow.
Yes. I agree. (Except I’m not an avid Trump supporter.)
 
I don’t believe that Pope Francis has endorsed any American presidential candidate.
And I don’t think he ever would. Popes, Queens, etc, are above expressing specific preferences for election outcomes. The pope can speak of the POLICIES he thinks the president should have but I seriously doubt he would specifically endorse someone.
 
After some reflection it dawned on me that the article claiming an endorsement us no different than what most media reports on the pope. My outrage should be the same every time someone claims the pope is “for” something like women clergy or homosexual marriage or any of the media hot topics.

Perhaps that was the point of the article. If the liberal side can make the pope support thier agenda then that should be good for the gander too right?
 
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