Trump declares war on establishment Republicans

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Hillary is neither weak nor discredited.

Read “The Clintons’ War on Women” by Roger Stone and Robert Morrow with the Foreward by Kathleen Willey.
I beg to differ. She has sky-high unfavorable ratings, and plenty of skeletons in the closet. If ever a Dem was ripe for defeat, it was HRC. But the Repubs nominated just about the only candidate she could defeat… with some help from Dems & Independents who voted in open primaries.
 
Agreed. I have very little respect left for any Republican who has in any way, shape, or form supported Trump. When HRC is elected (as she will be) those who supported him in the primaries will bear the responsibility. Any decent human being would have beaten her handily, but they came up with this buffoon.
I don’t think the other candidates could have beaten her handily - Hillary is more than a candidate - she has too much money and powerful forces behind her. McCain and Romney both lost and Bush and Cruz and Rubio couldn’t have beaten her either.
You are underestimating the Clinton machine. And Trump is not a buffoon. Don’t fool yourself.
 
With more liberals on the Supreme Court, you can be assured that the Second Amendment will be gutted.
And then what?

Most people don’t know that it isn’t the Second Amendment that gives one the right to protect himself.

I worry more about the erosion of the 10th Amendment.
 
I don’t think the other candidates could have beaten her handily - Hillary is more than a candidate - she has too much money and powerful forces behind her. McCain and Romney both lost and Bush and Cruz and Rubio couldn’t have beaten her either.
You are underestimating the Clinton machine. And Trump is not a buffoon. Don’t fool yourself.
She failed in her attempt to get nominated in 2008. What makes you think she would have beaten McCain?
 
The Establishment Republicans aren’t some privileged group of power brokers that scheme with Establishment Democrats behind closed doors. They hold their position because they’re spineless. They run for the hills whenever the going gets tough. They denounce and abandon any colleague out of fear that the media will target them, too. They just want to collect paychecks for blowing hot air then slinking away when the media brings pressure for the Democrats. The only time they’d ever stand for anything is when they had the full force of public opinion behind them. They just want to be popular…while looking principled.

They’re cowards.

A President Trump would have them fall in line before he’s even sworn in.
So who continually votes all these :“Establishment Republicans” into office. Based on so many comments there apparently aren’t that many “establishment Republican” voters these days and the Democrat voters sure wouldn’t be voting for them. 🤷
 
I don’t think the other candidates could have beaten her handily - Hillary is more than a candidate - she has too much money and powerful forces behind her. McCain and Romney both lost and Bush and Cruz and Rubio couldn’t have beaten her either.
You are underestimating the Clinton machine. And Trump is not a buffoon. Don’t fool yourself.
I agree with you that none of the 17 Republican hopefuls could have beat Hillary. She’s too strong of a candidate and, as you point out, the Clintons know how to win elections.

This is why Republicans are so terrified of her and have to throw lies at her all day long, year in, year out.

And no - Trump is not a buffoon. He is also not our next President and never had a chance to be. I actually give him props for his efforts - gruesome as they have been from time to time.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Our country desperately needs a strong principled Conservative voice. I pray that the Republicans can stop this nonsense and get back to their roots again. No one wants to live in a Progressive Echo Chamber.
 
I don’t think the other candidates could have beaten her handily - Hillary is more than a candidate - she has too much money and powerful forces behind her. McCain and Romney both lost and Bush and Cruz and Rubio couldn’t have beaten her either.
You are underestimating the Clinton machine. And Trump is not a buffoon. Don’t fool yourself.
Republican McCain ran against Obama as the nation was ending the era of another Republican President, George W Bush, during which we experienced what became known as the Great Recession, the worst economic times since the Great Depression. Romney ran against an incumbent who even today (outside of places such as CAF of course) maintains a reasonable popularity.

It has been very difficult though for awhile now for 1 party to win 3 straight WH terms. Only once since 1948 has it occurred when Republicans Reagan and his VP George HW Bush did so in 1980, 1984, 1988. So because of this fact, I’m going to have to differ just a bit with my friend, Little Sheep here. 🙂 I was never quick to rule out the chances of one of the other candidates beating HRC.

I agree I’m not sure Jeb Bush could have. Because this yr might still have been too close to his brother’s failed Presidency. And Cruz might be too far out there on the extreme right for a general election electorate. Same with someone like a Ben Carson. But someone more or who at least comes across as more moderate like a Kasich, I think would have given the GOP a reasonable betting chance this go-round. But it would have taken a unified GOP.
 
I beg to differ. She has sky-high unfavorable ratings, and plenty of skeletons in the closet. If ever a Dem was ripe for defeat, it was HRC. But the Repubs nominated just about the only candidate she could defeat… with some help from Dems & Independents who voted in open primaries.
Then why isnt Bernie the Democratic nominee … the republicans had a field of 16 … Trump won , he wasnt my pick but he won - and the entire field of Republicans - Trump included is better than the two fro the Democratic side … The Dems voted for Hillary - its those voters you should really be angry with …
 
Then why isnt Bernie the Democratic nominee … the republicans had a field of 16 … Trump won , he wasnt my pick but he won - and the entire field of Republicans - Trump included is better than the two fro the Democratic side … The Dems voted for Hillary - its those voters you should really be angry with …
Bernie isn’t the Democratic nominee because Democratic voters overwhelming chose HRC 55% - 45% and chose her by over 3 million more votes than Bernie received. Perhaps the majority of Democratic primary voters were not as far left as Bernie and most of the voters determined a more moderate Democrat such as HRC would have a better chance in a general. I know my friend Little Sheep concurs with this one. Right LS? 🙂
 
Republican McCain ran against Obama as the nation was ending the era of another Republican President, George W Bush, during which we experienced what became known as the Great Recession, the worst economic times since the Great Depression. Romney ran against an incumbent who even today (outside of places such as CAF of course) maintains a reasonable popularity.

It has been very difficult though for awhile now for 1 party to win 3 straight WH terms. Only once since 1948 has it occurred when Republicans Reagan and his VP George HW Bush did so in 1980, 1984, 1988. So because of this fact, I’m going to have to differ just a bit with my friend, Little Sheep here. 🙂 I was never quick to rule out the chances of one of the other candidates beating HRC.

I agree I’m not sure Jeb Bush could have. Because this yr might still have been too close to his brother’s failed Presidency. And Cruz might be too far out there on the extreme right for a general election electorate. Same with someone like a Ben Carson. But someone more or who at least comes across as more moderate like a Kasich, I think would have given the GOP a reasonable betting chance this go-round. But it would have taken a unified GOP.
👍 Some of the candidates would surely have made it a closer race, Sy Noe - I certainly agree with you there! And yes - unified GOP is key…but they haven’t been unified in such a long time…sigh…
 
Bernie isn’t the Democratic nominee because Democratic voters overwhelming chose HRC 55% - 45% and chose her by over 3 million more votes than Bernie received. Perhaps the majority of Democratic primary voters were not as far left as Bernie and most of the voters determined a more moderate Democrat such as HRC would have a better chance in a general. I know my friend Little Sheep concurs with this one. Right LS? 🙂
Look - God Bless, Bernie - I’ve always been crazy about him. But yes, Secretary Clinton won fair and square and for good reason - in no way, shape or form is our country ready to implement Senator Sanders’s ideas. He’s a deeply good man who would have gotten squashed in the GE.

The US is truly a moderate country and most of us understand that real change happens in the tiniest of increments. That’s one of the reasons that Hillary has been ahead in all of the polls since the beginning of the GE - she’s moderate and realistic while Mr. Trump is not.
 
I beg to differ. She has sky-high unfavorable ratings, and plenty of skeletons in the closet. If ever a Dem was ripe for defeat, it was HRC. But the Repubs nominated just about the only candidate she could defeat… with some help from Dems & Independents who voted in open primaries.
Goodness… is there really a skeleton left in Secretary Clinton’s closet? She’s the most vetted political candidate in the history of my lifetime!

All that vetting and nothing to show for it save Republican chattering points. I truly think she might be the most honest politician that we’ve ever known.
 
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So who continually votes all these :“Establishment Republicans” into office. Based on so many comments there apparently aren’t that many “establishment Republican” voters these days and the Democrat voters sure wouldn’t be voting for them. 🤷
“establishment Republican” voters is an oxymoron.
 
Little Sheep:
No one wants to live in a Progressive Echo Chamber.
And yet the Progressive Echo Chamber is where the idea that Clinton is too strong to beat or that Trump can’t win resonates from. If you don’t want to live in it, just come out and breathe the free air. You heart and mind will thank you.
 
So who continually votes all these :“Establishment Republicans” into office. Based on so many comments there apparently aren’t that many “establishment Republican” voters these days and the Democrat voters sure wouldn’t be voting for them. 🤷
“establishment Republican” voters is an oxymoron.
Now you’ve really got me confused. Are you now saying there is no such thing as an establishment Republican? It was your earlier post (see below) that I was responding to.
The Establishment Republicans aren’t some privileged group of power brokers that scheme with Establishment Democrats behind closed doors. They hold their position because they’re spineless. They run for the hills whenever the going gets tough. They denounce and abandon any colleague out of fear that the media will target them, too. They just want to collect paychecks for blowing hot air then slinking away when the media brings pressure for the Democrats. The only time they’d ever stand for anything is when they had the full force of public opinion behind them. They just want to be popular…while looking principled.

They’re cowards.

A President Trump would have them fall in line before he’s even sworn in.
Are you perhaps saying that in your view the “establishment Republicans” are not real Republicans? If so, I’ll rephrase my question. Who continually voted the “establishment” types running as Republicans into office. They obviously were the choice of the majority of voters in their districts.

EDITED Wait, I see now what you are saying, that there is no such thing as an establishment Republican voter. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, now I really have to ask. Who was (is) it who kept (keeps) electing the “establishment Republican” candidates?
 
I beg to differ. She has sky-high unfavorable ratings, and plenty of skeletons in the closet. If ever a Dem was ripe for defeat, it was HRC. But the Repubs nominated just about the only candidate she could defeat… with some help from Dems & Independents who voted in open primaries.
If she is so unfavorable, how did she beat Bernie? It is easy for you to say Trump is the only candidate she could defeat, when you have no way of proving otherwise.
 
Goodness… is there really a skeleton left in Secretary Clinton’s closet? She’s the most vetted political candidate in the history of my lifetime!

All that vetting and nothing to show for it save Republican chattering points. I truly think she might be the most honest politician that we’ve ever known.
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

That last line is a whopper!
 
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