Trump or Hillary?

[GaryTaylor]

cnn.com/2016/03/02/politics/hillary-clinton-email-server-justice-department/index.html

Washington (CNN)Bryan Pagliano, a former Clinton staffer who helped set up her private email server, has accepted an immunity offer from the FBI and the Justice Department to provide an interview to investigators, a U.S. law enforcement official told CNN Wednesday.

The FBI has been asking for Pagliano’s cooperation for months as dozens of investigators pored over thousands of Clinton emails in a secure room on the fourth floor of FBI headquarters.

That would be immunity from prosecution. The same prosecution Clinton is facing.

 

[grotto]

If anyone is really interested in checking on this, start by finding out about Felix Sater, a former Trump associate.

“Proof” is something for philosophers and mathematicians, but there is a lot of evidence to be had.

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The " Mob" associates that deserved checking out are those Obama has had for a neighbor in Chicago who arranged for Obama to buy a house and property. To check further, there are many Chicago pals of Obama with heavy pasts - Bill Ayers is still around right? Is the former Governor Bugala arranging to get out of prison or has that already been accomplished? That was the State of Illinois Senate seat that was steadily handed off, you know, the one Obama had, that Bugala was selling to Jesse Jackson’s son?

Checking on crooked Democrats just wasn’t done dontcha know and look where we are now.

 

[bekalc]

It will change when people stop voting for Hillary and intrinsic evil via lame excuses.

First all there is noting that indicates Trump is a racist nor that he supports anything evil, in fact a read of his entire take indicates otherwise.

Seriously? I don’t need the opposition to tell me anything I can hear with my own ears an see with my own eyes.

First of all Trump was sued and settled with the Justice Department for discriminating against African Americans. (The Justice Department does not take up cases they cannot win.)

He put out full page adds calling for the death penalty on three African American boys. Turning and flaming the entire City of New York against them. When it turned out that those three boys were innocent. He never apologized.

He has made comments about Native Americans, and Mexicans that are very offensive to them.

The words he has been using have inflamed a certain segment in our country. They are even making robo calls for him against the Rubio and Cruz in states where they bring up race. He has not denounced this.

And the fact that his support is from the those elements is probably why Trump refused to denounce the KKK at a Sunday Morning talk show. (Yes he did at a smaller conference and online) but a lot more people were watching it.

The KKK should be denounced loudly and strongly every time.

An African American commentator on CNN also pointed when Trump denounces ISIS he is passionate and vocal. But he is tepid when denounced the KKK.

(Also his son went on a popular White Supremicist show) They claim they didn’t know but really.

Then let’s go into his talk about forcing our troops to break the rules of Warfare. And they better do it.

The fact that he has made horrific comments about women. The fact that he made fun of the disabled and implied that a Prisoner of War is not a hero.

He also has a personal history of business practices that hurt the little guy.

And I am suppose to ignore all of this. And give this man the power to little destroy the world. Because he claims to be Pro life. With your argument, all Hitler would have to do to be elected is to claim pro life. A man who has no record of being pro life?

Where is discernment??

And for the record I voted for Romney even though I had questions about him being pro life too. But he didn’t have these troubling things about him. So I am very big into voting against abortion.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Where is discernment??

Ultimately, discernment may come down to knowing what Hillary Clinton and her party really are. Beside her and the Dem party, Trump and a fractious Repub party are pretty small concerns.

 

[gracepoole]

Ultimately, discernment may come down to knowing what Hillary Clinton and her party really are. Beside her and the Dem party, Trump and a fractious Repub party are pretty small concerns.

Why are racism, race-baiting, support for war crimes, and a questionable commitment to being pro-life small concerns?

 

[Theo520]

And the fact that his support is from the those elements is probably why Trump refused to denounce the KKK at a Sunday Morning talk show. (Yes he did at a smaller conference and online) but a lot more people were watching it.

The KKK should be denounced loudly and strongly every time.

An African American commentator on CNN also pointed when Trump denounces ISIS he is passionate and vocal. But he is tepid when denounced the KKK.

(Also his son went on a popular White Supremicist show) They claim they didn’t know but really.

LOL, the KKK is a Red Herring, their membership is down to maybe 5,000 people.

While ISIS is killing ten’s of thousands of people, the KKK passes out leaflets and holds an occasional rally.

They should be treated dismissively, ignored.

 

[Path_Finder]

Former Senator Jim Webb will not vote for Hillary, is considering voting for Trump;

realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/03/04/democrat_jim_webb_i_would_not_vote_for_hillary_clinton.html

 

[LeafByNiggle]

LOL, the KKK is a Red Herring, their membership is down to maybe 5,000 people.

While ISIS is killing ten’s of thousands of people, the KKK passes out leaflets and holds an occasional rally.

They should be treated dismissively, ignored.

If white supremacist groups are so irrelevant, why does David Duke get so much press when he makes an endorsement?

 

[Theo520]

If white supremacist groups are so irrelevant, why does David Duke get so much press when he makes an endorsement?

Because it’s a Red Herring that suits the media and GOP Establishment attack on Trump.

The KKK might be relevant if Trump had been funding them, but he’s not. The bigger political scandal could be Trump’s donations to LGBT groups, which the media conveniently ignores (for now)

 

[Ridgerunner]

Why are racism, race-baiting, support for war crimes, and a questionable commitment to being pro-life small concerns?

Because the notion of Trump being racist, race-baiting, and supporting war crimes are all subjective judgments of a man those who accuse him of those things don’t know, but despise for other reasons.

And a “questionable commitment” to Trump being prolife is clearly less concerning than a full-bore Clinton endorsement of abortion.

 

[Luigi_Daniele]

Because the notion of Trump being racist, race-baiting, and supporting war crimes are all subjective judgments of a man those who accuse him of those things don’t know, but despise for other reasons.

And a “questionable commitment” to Trump being prolife is clearly less concerning than a full-bore Clinton endorsement of abortion.

It should really be as simple as that. Particularly on a Catholic forum.

 

[bekalc]

LOL, the KKK is a Red Herring, their membership is down to maybe 5,000 people.

While ISIS is killing ten’s of thousands of people, the KKK passes out leaflets and holds an occasional rally.

They should be treated dismissively, ignored.

So they have many victims who are still alive. They need to be denounced when brought up in the strongest terms. Not to mention white Supremacists are still doing there thing remember S. Carolina.
How do you think the victims feel hearing a Republican front runner say he needs to “research white Supremacy groups and the KKK.” It is unacceptable.

It is not just the KKK thing some of the talk on immigration. Looks I get it we need control of our borders. People though keep talking in terms of “losing one’s country?” I am sorry but heh?

Look a lot of these people coming here are coming desperate and poor (America was built on these types of people). But these people want to be Americans. Like every immigrant group the first generation stays in their zones but then second branches out.

I live in a city that is almost 70 percent Hispanic as a white person and there is just no issue here. We are not going to lose our country if they stay. Any more than we lost it when the unpopular Irish came and the Italians came.

I frankly wonder at times if people even realize how they sound at times.

Trumps words and actions offend a lot of people.

 

[Path_Finder]

Because the notion of Trump being racist, race-baiting, and supporting war crimes are all subjective judgments of a man those who accuse him of those things don’t know, but despise for other reasons.

And a “questionable commitment” to Trump being prolife is clearly less concerning than a full-bore Clinton endorsement of abortion.

It also occurs to me, if more people, including Catholics voted for Mitt; perhaps we would not be dealing with this present scenario. I voted for Mitt, so I will take whatever comes.

 

[Luigi_Daniele]

It also occurs to me, if more people, including Catholics voted for Mitt; perhaps we would not be dealing with this present scenario. I voted for Mitt, so I will take whatever comes.

 

[bekalc]

He also talked about banning all Muslims from coming here. That was the moment he disqualified himself. It is wrong. This is not speculation it is real unacceptable for me things he is saying.

And I voted for Mitt too even though I had things I disagreed but there has to be a line somewhere and Trump had crossed it.

 

[Theo520]

So they have many victims who are still alive. They need to be denounced when brought up in the strongest terms. Not to mention white Supremacists are still doing there thing remember S. Carolina.
How do you think the victims feel hearing a Republican front runner say he needs to “research white Supremacy groups and the KKK.” It is unacceptable.

He did denounce them. What’s going on is making a mountain out of a mole hill, solely for political gain. What about Trumps donations to LGBT causes and numerous AA friends? None have accused him of being racist.

It is not just the KKK thing some of the talk on immigration. Looks I get it we need control of our borders. People though keep talking in terms of “losing one’s country?” I am sorry but heh?

Look a lot of these people coming here are coming desperate and poor (America was built on these types of people). But these people want to be Americans. Like every immigrant group the first generation stays in their zones but then second branches out.

Maybe you didn’t realize it but the US Govt is primarily responsibility is for US Citizens. We can and should help our neighbors, but we are not their daddy. Perhaps your focus should be on introducing political activism within Mexico?

The people crossing our border illegally are economic migrants, not starving refugees. I do agree we should expand our Guest Worker program.

I live in a city that is almost 70 percent Hispanic as a white person and there is just no issue here. We are not going to lose our country if they stay. Any more than we lost it when the unpopular Irish came and the Italians came.

I’m not sure what your point is. I’m fully supportive of legal immigration, as is Trump.

I frankly wonder at times if people even realize how they sound at times.

Trumps words and actions offend a lot of people.

A lot of people are projecting things he hasn’t said.

• banning Muslims was a political challenge to Obama, to fix known gaps in screening that was allowing radical Islamists to enter.
• Criminals and crime have a significant connection with illegal immigration. Are you a fan of human trafficking and forced prostitution?

 

[gracepoole]

Because the notion of Trump being racist, race-baiting, and supporting war crimes are all subjective judgments of a man those who accuse him of those things don’t know, but despise for other reasons.

And a “questionable commitment” to Trump being prolife is clearly less concerning than a full-bore Clinton endorsement of abortion.

Trump has loudly and publicly called for a war crime to be committed. How is any reading of that subjective?

 

[Path_Finder]

Trump has loudly and publicly called for a war crime to be committed. How is any reading of that subjective?

And now, he has apparently reversed his position.

 

[sallybutler]

And now, he has apparently reversed his position.

So should people trust him to keep to his current position on abortion?

 

[gracepoole]

And now, he has apparently reversed his position.

Gee, couldn’t see that coming. We’ll add this to the lengthy list of topics on which he’s changed his position. How anyone can guess who he’d be if elected is a mystery.