The US intervention in the Middle East is largely responsible for the growth of ISIS in the Middle East not the prevention of it. Toppling secular governments in the Middle East allowed the growth of these radical groups. As bad as the dictators of Iraq and Syria are (and they were/are bad) , the resulting radical ISIS groups were a far worse enemy of Christians in those countries.
What you said is very relevant. I have brought of the Gulf of Tonkin, the USS Vincennes incident, Operation Ajax on several occasions. It has pretty much been met with either indifference, ignored or met with the same argument that if we would have just hung in there we would have won, or we have to intervene to maintain peace around the world, etc. History is important, truth is important.
You think you are telling us something new. That doesn’t mean you abandon your allies like the Kurds. Tell me something new. Trump is going to make ISIS great again, he is going to make Iran great again. Please spare me the history lessons, we are talking about 2018 not 2003.
You can support genocide, I’m not. You just voice anti-Americanism, you’ve got no back up. It’s just like those who accuse others of racism. Cite your sources. I’ve got mine, you have nothing. If you have anything it’s going to be from the unfree world like Russia.
Yes 500,000 people is a lot. But if they are terrorists, then what?
If Americans do not support genocide how do you explain that there have been 40 million American children murdered in the womb since 1973. These children are not terrorists by any stretch of the imagination. There is a big difference here because there is a civil war going on in Syria. Just as there was a civil war in the US. Was it genocide for Abraham Lincoln to murder 700,000 Americans in the civil war? If it is genocide when 500,000 die in the Syrian civil war, then why is it not genocide when 700,000 die under Lincoln in the American civil war. And why is not the legal murder of 40 million unborn American children, approved by the American courts, not genocide?
It would be nice if Americans would prevent the genocide of thousands of unborn American children every day ?
Then what? I"d like a source to your data saying there were 500,000 terrorists in Syria.
Okay, that’s a pro-life argument. One can make that argument and say we are worse than the Nazis. Granted.
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This isn’t new, that is the point. We as a country made interventions that escalated Vietnam to allow us to enter the war, Only we called it a “conflict” and then did not allow troops to basically go beyond a certain level of involvement . After years of not accomplishing an end, we pulled out. Operation Ajax instrumented the development of bad relations with Iran. That was the beginning of the bad relationship we have now with Iran and the inevitable takeover by radical Islamists because of the puppet government of the Shah we instrumented there. We lied for sometime about the USS Vincennes incident in 1988. We entered wars in Iraq and Syria we should not have been in. We have a history of these kind of things so “history” is important. We were not invited in Syria. We did this on our own. In regard to ISIS, it is not about making ISIS “great again”. Our actions in the ME precipitated the platform for the development of ISIS. We can’t fight everyone’s battles. History of our previous actions are a predictor of our future actions. The Middle East is in perpetual warfare. We don’t need to be there. Our presence there isn’t building allies.
You can throw around words like anti-Americanism, but that’s not how I see it. The way I see it, it is pro-American to support our great and admirable President of the United States of America as he withdraws troops from Syria, and it is anti-American to oppose our outstanding and wonderful American President and to slander him as an evil colluder with evil foreign governments. I support the American President as he attempts to bring these disastrous wars in Syria and in Afghanistan to an end.
You have read my mind on that comment. Many people will support whatever action our government does, but would condemn another government for doing the very same thing. Reason-because my side is doing it, that makes it “OK”…
There is definitely nothing “Anti-American” about your statement supporting the President’s decision to bring our troops home. Favoring Globo-cop action does not somehow make a person more pro-American than one who opposes it.
No matter what you say, it doesn’t justify abandoning the allies that helped us beat back the ISIS caliphate. It doesn’t justify abandoning them and that includes Chaldean Catholics.
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The time to say, "Let’s not play “Globo-Cop” is not 15 years after we invade Iraq, and not after when the Kurds and Chaldean Christians and others lay down their lives for us to beat, let’s say beat down one of the greatest evils since World War II and then say, “see you later” and abandon them.
Not sure if your reference to the term Globo-cop is directed at my use of it or the political position of the preset administration. I’ll just address them both. In regard to my use of it, I felt the same way 15 years ago, I never felt we should have gone in to Iraq. I am not, or was at that time in favor of military interventionism. We created more issues there than we solved. A loss of a lot lives and maiming of American soldiers an our involvement in the area further destabilized it not stabilized it. We have been in Afghanistan for 18 yrs, and if we don’t pull out we could be there another 18 years or more. The Russians didn’t beat the Afghans and we have not either. As a matter of fact, I don’t think they have been controlled since the time of Alexander the Great.They fight a guerilla warfare and disappear back in to the general populous. Before 2001 the Taliban were instrumental in helping wipe out the opium production. Today they are basically running the opium production in Afghanistan and it is growing at an astronomical rate as it funds their war machine. I think roughly 90% of world production comes out of Afghanistan. As I have said many times, the US has a military presence of some kind or another in 150 countries. It is costly and unnecessary. Those tax dollars to fund it could be use to fund a whole host of other domestic programs or charities. Empires always collapse in time because they simply can no longer be manned or funded.