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[josie_L]

Do you think our Church hierarchy hasn’t?? And do you really think that changes anything the Church teaches about Judaism?

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/p...pc_chrstuni_doc_19820306_jews-judaism_en.html

My use of Judeo-Christianity was only meant to convey our shared understanding of old testament scriptures and the truths it imparts about salvation history and mankind.

 

[WingedHussar]

Look, it is okay if you have not read the Talmud. However it seems kinda odd to make statements about Judaism without having read their book.

The Christian understanding of the Old Testament is that Jesus fulfilled it. The Jews do not share that belief. That is the truth.

 

[Rubee]

The idea of man being created equal is neither a conservative or progressive ideal.

It is premised on the truth revealed by God through scripture.

Yes: Christianity is truth, as I said. You were responding to Jon who looks at conservatism in those terms which is why I made the point. The values are indeed timeless but basing something on them at a certain point in history wouldn’t necessarily make that move conservative if that idea had not been lived as the status quo where it was being introduced, or even re-introduced, as it were.

@JonNC is right about one thing, though: the re-introduction of slavery among Christian peoples after the discovery of the New World was “progressive” in pretty much the same way the re-introduction of abortion among the same 500 years later is “progressive.”

 

[Rubee]

The Christian understanding of the Old Testament is that Jesus fulfilled it. The Jews do not share that belief. That is the truth.

It’s true, indeed. But it’s not the whole truth. Remember, Jesus was a Jew who shared the same religion with those 1st century Jews who did not believe that Jesus fulfilled the OT. They went to the same worship and services and believed the same morality and scriptures. Some of that passes to us through Christ and the church. That’s not a small thing, it’s a huge thing to have in common, both with Temple and Rabbinic Judaism. i.e., Christianity coming to us in a very specific context which is Judaism.

PS: I’ve heard about those parts of the Talmud you mean, though haven’t read them (don’t see the need to): the (claimed/alleged) intolerable (to Christians) insults for a man we believe not only holy but divine. I don’t believe any of it is remotely true, of course (or even passable “ok”) to the extent that it’s talking about Christ or his mother. But we still do share a common “resource” or deposit or even history or context in ancient/Temple Judaism.