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The Trump Effect: The Impact of the Presidential Campaign on our Nation’s Schools
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The lengthy unsubstantiated diatribe of emotional duress imposed upon school children living in several states is pure hogwash. The article itself states in the beginning paragraphs that none of it is founded on scientific data or in plain language - truth.

What this amounts to is an attack on the process of election campaigns - little children are not impacted by the political speech. If a commercial showed a small girl picking flowers in a field and an enormous mushroom cloud rose up in the background, the child would probably ask, “is that a tornado Mommy?”. Otherwise - the baloney about Donald Trump striking fear in the hearts of little ones and causing nightmares and needing their birth certificate and social security card to go to school - well, someone else can come up with a description for that.
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Based on what my kids are saying, Trump is a figure of mockery and abuse in their school - a little too much so for my taste (and I’m not a supporter).
 
tomarin said:
Based on what my kids are saying, Trump is a figure of mockery and abuse in their school - a little too much so for my taste (and I’m not a supporter).
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I don’t like to see that, either, and I, too, am not a Trump supporter. Not at all.
 
Some of Donald Trump’s supporters are among the most terrifying white supremacists in the nation. Not all of Trump’s supporters are this extreme, of course, but the fact that these individuals find his campaign to be largely in ideological alignment with their beliefs is chilling.
There had been *clashes between supporters and protesters at Donald Trump rallies before, but this one in Louisville last month stood out. The racial imagery was jarring, the violence only barely contained. When video of the encounter went viral, most who saw it had no idea who the man was. But his followers knew. And so did his family. And so did the people who track hate groups and white-supremacist *organizations, who consider him one of the country’s leading young proponents of racial acrimony.
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The day after the rally, Matthew Heimbach, a 25-year-old white nationalist who grew up in an affluent Maryland community and now lives in rural Indiana, acknowledged online that he was the one in the video pushing the woman. The object of his fury, Kashiya Nwanguma, 21, a public health major at the University of Louisville, has joined two others in suing Trump in Jefferson County Circuit Court for allegedly inciting a riot. The suit also accuses Heimbach of assaulting Nwan**guma.
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In his post online, Heim*bach described her as a member of the Black Lives Matter movement who had been disrupting the event for the better part of an hour. “White Americans are getting fed up and they’re learning that they must either push back or be pushed down,” he wrote.
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Heimbach doesn’t hide his extremism. He has had his picture taken at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington holding a sign that said: “6 million? More like 271,301.” In another photo, in front of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.’s grave site in Atlanta, he unfurled the first flag of the Confederacy. After terrorist attacks in Brussels last month, he tweeted, “Hey Brussels, how’s that multi*culturalism working out for you?”
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His racial worldview has cost him jobs and led to his excommunication from his Orthodox Christian church. It has created a rift between him and his parents and confounded those who knew him in Maryland: his classmates at Poolesville High School and his teachers and many fellow students at Montgomery College and Towson University, from which he graduated with a history degree in 2013.
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grotto said:
The lengthy unsubstantiated diatribe of emotional duress imposed upon school children living in several states is pure hogwash. The article itself states in the beginning paragraphs that none of it is founded on scientific data or in plain language - truth.

What this amounts to is an attack on the process of election campaigns - little children are not impacted by the political speech. If a commercial showed a small girl picking flowers in a field and an enormous mushroom cloud rose up in the background, the child would probably ask, “is that a tornado Mommy?”. Otherwise - the baloney about Donald Trump striking fear in the hearts of little ones and causing nightmares and needing their birth certificate and social security card to go to school - well, someone else can come up with a description for that.
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I see. So it’s all a grand lie, eh? The SPLC, thousands of teachers – all liars. Got it.
 
And the Communist Party USA has a long history of endorsing and supplying campaign workers for some Democratic Party candidates.
 
As a Canadian who has concerns about the shallow, socialist prime minister elected in our country, mostly due to media support and munipulation, the minute the elite and media pundits start to control an election with their bullish tactics, I wonder what is in it for them. Trump would not have been my choice, when the process began many months ago, but the nasty efforts being employed by so many, to prevent his nomination is troubling. What are the many elites to lose by his nomination? There is something deeper here. I think the fact that they can’t control Trump with their money as they can with most politicians, is refreshing, if this is really the case.
As an older person following elections in many countries throughout the years, I’ve noted a common thread. Money corrupts and controls as the rich get richer. If originally a politician enters the race with honorable intentions, in time if they are not destroyed for their common sense thinking, then they become corrupted in order to keep their position. A system that allows money and power to control the way we are governed, will never truly be there for the good of the people. I’m especially bothered by the way, celebrities opinions and bought protesters have such traction when people are placing their votes for people who can influence their lives and those of generations to come.
 
Murtle_May_I said:
As a Canadian who has concerns about the shallow, socialist prime minister elected in our country, mostly due to media support and munipulation, the minute the elite and media pundits start to control an election with their bullish tactics, I wonder what is in it for them. Trump would not have been my choice, when the process began many months ago, but the nasty efforts being employed by so many, to prevent his nomination is troubling. What are the many elites to lose by his nomination? There is something deeper here. I think the fact that they can’t control Trump with their money as they can with most politicians, is refreshing, if this is really the case.
As an older person following elections in many countries throughout the years, I’ve noted a common thread. Money corrupts and controls as the rich get richer. If originally a politician enters the race with honorable intentions, in time if they are not destroyed for their common sense thinking, then they become corrupted in order to keep their position. A system that allows money and power to control the way we are governed, will never truly be there for the good of the people. I’m especially bothered by the way, celebrities opinions and bought protesters have such traction when people are placing their votes for people who can influence their lives and those of generations to come.
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Murtle_May_I said:
As a Canadian who has concerns about the shallow, socialist prime minister elected in our country, mostly due to media support and munipulation, the minute the elite and media pundits start to control an election with their bullish tactics, I wonder what is in it for them. Trump would not have been my choice, when the process began many months ago, but the nasty efforts being employed by so many, to prevent his nomination is troubling. What are the many elites to lose by his nomination? There is something deeper here. I think the fact that they can’t control Trump with their money as they can with most politicians, is refreshing, if this is really the case.
As an older person following elections in many countries throughout the years, I’ve noted a common thread. Money corrupts and controls as the rich get richer. If originally a politician enters the race with honorable intentions, in time if they are not destroyed for their common sense thinking, then they become corrupted in order to keep their position. A system that allows money and power to control the way we are governed, will never truly be there for the good of the people. I’m especially bothered by the way, celebrities opinions and bought protesters have such traction when people are placing their votes for people who can influence their lives and those of generations to come.
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Having often wondered about our Canadian neighbor, a question you may be able to answer: Do you have tv like the US - meaning cable or satellite - and what quality of programming are you seeing? Are your news networks delivering the news without slanting or flat out promoting unwelcome social changes to the Canadian people?
Also, is there a differing view between the far west, middle and eastern Canada as we seem to have in the US? Do you have much challenge of governmental power?
Maybe that is too much to ask of one - so don’t worry, I just wondered on a one person level (who seems to be in tune with what is going on). :thankyou:
 
Meanwhile Roger Stone, a longtime ally of Trump and, until August 2015, one of the top advisers to his campaign, is writing a conspiracy theory book that the Clintons had JFK Jr murdered.

Sounds plausible.
He [Stone] currently heads the pro-Trump super PAC Committee to Restore America’s Greatness and is a frequent Trump supporter in the media. Stone has been under heavy criticism recently because of his stated plan to “disclose the hotels and the room numbers of those delegates who are directly involved in” allegedly stealing the nomination from Trump at the Republican convention.
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So no, he’s not some fringe nutjob; he’sis a major conservative political player who appeared regularly appeared on CNN and MSNBC, until he was recently banned.
 
gracepoole said:
I see. So it’s all a grand lie, eh? The SPLC, thousands of teachers – all liars. Got it.
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SPLC and teacher’s unions have thrown away what credibility they have. Their claims are worthless unless there is corroborating evidence. And I say this as a Cruz supporter and someone who won’t vote for Trump in the general election if he’s nominated.
 
zz912 said:
SPLC and teacher’s unions have thrown away what credibility they have. Their claims are worthless unless there is corroborating evidence. And I say this as a Cruz supporter and someone who won’t vote for Trump in the general election if he’s nominated.
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I expect folks here to throw the SPLC and unions under the bus – but all teachers? Really? That’s a stretch that logic just can’t support.
 
Siegehammer said:
Meanwhile Roger Stone, a longtime ally of Trump and, until August 2015, one of the top advisers to his campaign, is writing a conspiracy theory book that the Clintons had JFK Jr murdered.

Sounds plausible.

So no, he’s not some fringe nutjob; he’sis a major conservative political player who appeared regularly appeared on CNN and MSNBC, until he was recently banned.
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The Clintons would have been about 16 or 17 years old when JFK was murdered. The scenario doesn’t sound plausible to me.
 
Siegehammer said:
Meanwhile Roger Stone, a longtime ally of Trump and, until August 2015, one of the top advisers to his campaign, is writing a conspiracy theory book that the Clintons had JFK Jr murdered.

Sounds plausible.

So no, he’s not some fringe nutjob; he’sis a major conservative political player who appeared regularly appeared on CNN and MSNBC, until he was recently banned.
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I guess Stone likes to keep things interesting. He also wrote a book, Jeb! and the Bush Crime Family. :rolleyes:
 
zz912 said:
SPLC and teacher’s unions have thrown away what credibility they have. Their claims are worthless unless there is corroborating evidence. And I say this as a Cruz supporter and someone who won’t vote for Trump in the general election if he’s nominated.
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Cruz probably won’t, so that’s a 1/2 vote for Hillary Clinton. I’m not fond of Cruz or Trump, either one. I preferred Christie, but now that he’s out, I prefer Kasich. But I’m not going to fail to vote against the #1 supporter of abortion on demand. I’ll vote for whoever the Repub candidate is, even if it was Rand Paul, whom I dislike intensely.
 
Jeanne_S said:
JFK Jr.
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He wasn’t murdered. Aviation experts have determined that.

This person says it was Bush, which to me, is just as ridiculous:

theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/bush_killed_jfkjr.htm

I don’t think Bush or the Clintons killed anyone. JFK Jr. died because of pilot error. These “conspiracy theories” always come up when someone famous dies under mysterious circumstances. But JFK Jr.'s death wasn’t mysterious. The weather wasn’t good, he wasn’t a very good pilot, and he was upset. A recipe for disaster. It was a tragic accident; no one was to blame, and it’s wrong of us to even insinuate anyone was.
 
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