Trump Thread Two

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TMC said:
Yes. Also worth noting that the family of Ambassador Stevens has repeatedly asked Trump to stop using his death for political purposes, and also repeatedly said they do not believe Hillary Clinton is to blame for his death.
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Since she said she took full responsibility for it, I am not sure why they would say that.
 
meltzerboy said:
But there is a difference between calling someone a liar and saying they are mistaken, isn’t there? The choice of words one uses does matter. And the way you say “Hillary left four Americans to die” almost suggests this was intentional. It was not, and we will probably never know the whole truth of the Benghazi tragedy. I am not saying Hillary is an angel or that her judgment was sound in the matter, but surely this tragic event was not something she intended or something she had no regrets about. Neither she nor Trump is an evil person.
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She said Hillary treated her like dirt Was she lying?
 
Ridgerunner said:
Since she said she took full responsibility for it, I am not sure why they would say that.
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There is a pretty big difference between taking responsibility, as she did, and causing or allowing their deaths, as some have accused. The Ambassadors family has made clear that they don’t believe Clinton caused or allowed his death, and have repeatedly asked that Trump stop using his name.
 
ringil said:
cnn.com/2016/08/01/politics/donald-trump-khizr-khan-ukraine/index.html

A feature detailing Trump’s “terrible 72 hours”.
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Actually, it says “bad 72 hours”, but CNN, as a subsidiary of the DNC, probably considered “terrible” as an adjective. Possibly they’ll save “terrible” for the next firestorm the media creates. This one certainly won’t be the last.

It appears the IRS is finally going to take a years-deferred look at Hillary Clinton’s foundation just as the FBI will get around to looking at it someday or other. But who cares about reporting that? After all, Trump wondered aloud whether Mrs. Khan was not allowed to speak just as many, many Muslim women are not allowed to speak (or drive, or go out without a male relative guardian, or complain of rape)

The Dems take us for utter fools.
 
TMC said:
There is a pretty big difference between taking responsibility, as she did, and causing or allowing their deaths, as some have accused. The Ambassadors family has made clear that they don’t believe Clinton caused or allowed his death, and have repeatedly asked that Trump stop using his name.
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Pat Smith appears to have taken a different position than they have in regards to the death of her son in the Benghazi. At the RNC, Pat Smith said, “For all of this loss, for all of this grief, for all of the cynicism the tragedy in Benghazi has brought upon America, I blame Hillary Clinton. I blame Hillary Clinton personally for the death of my son.”
 
TMC said:
There is a pretty big difference between taking responsibility, as she did, and causing or allowing their deaths, as some have accused. The Ambassadors family has made clear that they don’t believe Clinton caused or allowed his death, and have repeatedly asked that Trump stop using his name.
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She was either responsible for his death or she wasn’t. That’s a fact issue, not a matter of what the Stevens family thinks about it. And it is also a matter of the competence and judgment of Hillary Clinton for the office she seeks. If the Stevens family reveres her, that doesn’t mean we all have to.

The Brits, remember, withdrew their people because they knew it wasn’t safe. That was no mystery, or shouldn’t have been. Were the Brits wrong and the Stevens’ right?
 
Ridgerunner said:
She was either responsible for his death or she wasn’t. That’s a fact issue, not a matter of what the Stevens family thinks about it. And it is also a matter of the competence and judgment of Hillary Clinton for the office she seeks. If the Stevens family reveres her, that doesn’t mean we all have to.

The Brits, remember, withdrew their people because they knew it wasn’t safe. That was no mystery, or shouldn’t have been. Were the Brits wrong and the Stevens’ right?
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What did the US House select Committee on Benghazi chaired by a Republican conclude?
 
If Trump is elected get ready for 4 years of “He said what?!”
 
Ridgerunner said:
She was either responsible for his death or she wasn’t. That’s a fact issue, not a matter of what the Stevens family thinks about it. And it is also a matter of the competence and judgment of Hillary Clinton for the office she seeks. If the Stevens family reveres her, that doesn’t mean we all have to.

The Brits, remember, withdrew their people because they knew it wasn’t safe. That was no mystery, or shouldn’t have been. Were the Brits wrong and the Stevens’ right?
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Did the Stevens family actually say they “revere” Hillary, or did they say they do not hold her responsible? There is quite a difference.
 
MaryT777 said:
What are you talking about? I have never said I support any of the above ill fates for people or children.
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I take you are a socialist then ? Lots of Catholic socialists here in Europe. They care for the born and unborn with equal fervour.
 
estesbob said:
I don’t know of anyone who has proposed this Its the classic “better dead than underfed” misdirection
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In a country awash with guns, riven by inequalities in income, with deep racial divides its a bit of a misdirection to insists the unborn child being brought into such a World is “safe”. I’m pro-Life but life after birth too. Born without hope, without a fair chance in life, left on the margins of society in which the 1% own 90% that is NOT pro-life just anti-abortion. They are not the same thing !
 
MaryT777 said:
No, I’m a Republican.
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I’m a Libeterian socialist and a former Catholic. All my Catholic friends are socialists. We are Pro-Life not just anti-abortion which is why we share with our Pope a vision of a better World for ALL God’s children - Black and White, young and old, male and female. The Kingdom of God as Jesus describes in the Gospels and Mary affirms in the Magnificat " fills the hungry with good things and the rich are turned empty away".
 
Peccavi said:
In a country awash with guns, riven by inequalities in income, with deep racial divides its a bit of a misdirection to insists the unborn child being brought into such a World is “safe”. I’m pro-Life but life after birth too. Born without hope, without a fair chance in life, left on the margins of society in which the 1% own 90% that is NOT pro-life just anti-abortion. They are not the same thing !
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Again you set up a straw man No one is suggesting that there not be a aid for those In need You have come up your own definition of pro life that’s just happens to coincide with your political views Worse yet you seem to be suggesting that abortion is OK until society fully embrace a far left wing social agenda.
 
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