Trump Thread Two

  • Thread starter Thread starter XndrK
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
_Abyssinia said:
How is that a proportionate reason?
Click to expand...
It is a proportionate reason if you believe that:
  1. The incidence of abortions will not be significantly different, no matter who is elected, and
  2. Trump’s dangerous ideas pose an existential threat to the nation.
I’m not trying to convince you to accept these beliefs, only to acknowledge that a person may morally hold these two beliefs, even if you think they are false.
 
estesbob said:
I’ve heard that rationalization from Democrat Catholics about every Republican candidate for president in the last 30 years . Trump has given us a list of pro-life judges that he has promised to point to the Supreme Court. Again we’re being told to vote against Trump because of what he might do as opposed to what Hillary Clinton has adamantly declared that she will do.

Of course to vote for Hillary we to have to ignore her absolutely disastrous term as Secretary of State , her belief that people must change their religious beliefs to embrace abortion and the fact that all she has really accomplished in life is marry Bill Clinton
Click to expand...
Pfft! Melania Trump may not have graduated from college! :rolleyes:
 
DeniseNY said:
Pfft! Melania Trump may not have graduated from college! :rolleyes:
Click to expand...
Nope. It has been fact-checked:
"We also checked the Ljubljana University archives for any records of Melania Knauss, Melanija Knavs, and every other combination and alternate spellings of those names that we could find, and were unable to locate a record of her at that university, nor at any other university in the country.

There is as yet no word whether, in a repeat of his 2012 election-eve “big announcement,” Donald Trump will offer Melania $5 million to produce her college transcripts."*
snopes.com/melania-trump-architecture-degree/
 
randomuser said:
Nope. It has been fact-checked:
"We also checked the Ljubljana University archives for any records of Melania Knauss, Melanija Knavs, and every other combination and alternate spellings of those names that we could find, and were unable to locate a record of her at that university, nor at any other university in the country.

There is as yet no word whether, in a repeat of his 2012 election-eve “big announcement,” Donald Trump will offer Melania $5 million to produce her college transcripts."*
snopes.com/melania-trump-architecture-degree/
Click to expand...
And to you, this is an important issue in this election?
 
DeniseNY said:
And how is this important in this election? If Dems want to talk about lies, let’s look at some of Hillary’s - like coming under sniper fire, being named after Sir Edmund Hillary, and the little matter of being fired from the Watergate committee Shall I go on?
Click to expand...
Yes, please do, because so far these have been snoozers.
 
randomuser said:
Easy answer: abortion rates are the lowest they have been since 1973.
washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/study-abortion-rate-at-lowest-point-since-1973/2014/02/02/8dea007c-8a9b-11e3-833c-33098f9e5267_story.html

The evidence shows increase during REPUBLICAN terms, not Democrat.

That’s “proportionate reason.”
Click to expand...
The abortion decline is likely to be multifaceted, but Republicans made significant gains in 2010 at the state level, managing to pass hundreds of laws related to abortion regulation and restriction? What role have those laws played in the abortion rate?

In this article from 2008, when George W Bush was President, the last Republican to be President, it says, “The abortion rate is at its lowest rate since 1974”, said Rebecca Wind: politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/aug/21/barack-obama/abortion-numbers-have-gone-down/
 
randomuser said:
Trump was married THREE TIMES, and most recent wife’s college education (if she was graduated from a university: nobody knows) cannot even be verified.

Clinton has been married ONCE, is still in that ONE marriage, and both of their college education is a matter of public record.
Click to expand...
Yep. Speaks volumes.
 
_Abyssinia said:
How is that a proportionate reason?

I just looked closer at your icon… in light of what you are saying above, wow!
Click to expand...
I looked at your religion: Catholic.

How can you vote for a man who is currently engaged in adultery? Wow!
 
PRmerger said:
I looked at your religion: Catholic.

How can you vote for a man who is currently engaged in adultery? Wow!
Click to expand...
The alternative is worse, a lot worse. And throwing away a vote on 3rd party is tossing the vote into the fire…its not going to count in the long run. We need real leadership…our choices are someone who lied to america about Benghazi and compromised National Security. The choice on the republican side is not who I wanted (I wanted Rick Santorum or even Marco Rubio…both would have been MUCH better choices)

With the election comes the appointment of several supreme court justices. There are so many things at stake here. Our religious freedom, 2nd amendment rights, protecting our borders…stopping terrorism…

I can’t trust Hilary. And I am not sure if we can trust Donald, but I can’t trust HILARY.
 
jediliz said:
The alternative is worse, a lot worse. And throwing away a vote on 3rd party is tossing the vote into the fire…its not going to count in the long run. We need real leadership…our choices are someone who lied to america about Benghazi and compromised National Security. The choice on the republican side is not who I wanted (I wanted Rick Santorum or even Marco Rubio…both would have been MUCH better choices)

With the election comes the appointment of several supreme court justices. There are so many things at stake here. Our religious freedom, 2nd amendment rights, protecting our borders…stopping terrorism…

I can’t trust Hilary. And I am not sure if we can trust Donald, but I can’t trust HILARY.
Click to expand...
So let’s just agree that prolife issues shouldn’t even be a consideration, because both Hillary and Trump will not be a friend to unborn babies.

And on the rest of the issues: Hillary is head and shoulders above the rest.

Not to mention, Hillary hasn’t filed for bankruptcy…that is, failed miserably in her occupation.
 
PRmerger said:
So let’s just agree that prolife issues shouldn’t even be a consideration, because both Hillary and Trump will not be a friend to unborn babies.

And on the rest of the issues: Hillary is head and shoulders above the rest.

Not to mention, Hillary hasn’t filed for bankruptcy…that is, failed miserably in her occupation.
Click to expand...
No way is Hilary** above **the rest…and I know you said putting pro life issues aside…but I don’t think she’ll protect our borders or keep us free from more San Bernadino or Fort Hood type attacks. Do you really think she’ll help people get out of poverty? Find homes for all our homeless, including our VETS? Will she fix the issues with the VA so our vets don’t die while waiting for care? Will she bring back all the jobs that went overseas because of cheaper labor? How would she respond if we had another attack, something like 9/11? If she can’t even send help to Soldiers in Benghazi as S.O.S. will she be able to be COMMANDER IN CHIEF of the ARMY?

And it wan’t trump that filed for bankruptcy.
 
jediliz said:
No way is Hilary** above **the rest…and I know you said putting pro life issues aside…but I don’t think she’ll protect our borders or keep us free from more San Bernadino or Fort Hood type attacks. Do you really think she’ll help people get out of poverty? Find homes for all our homeless, including our VETS? Will she fix the issues with the VA so our vets don’t die while waiting for care? Will she bring back all the jobs that went overseas because of cheaper labor? How would she respond if we had another attack, something like 9/11? If she can’t even send help to Soldiers in Benghazi as S.O.S. will she be able to be COMMANDER IN CHIEF of the ARMY?
Click to expand...
As has been said: “A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons.”

It is utterly chilling to imagine this man with access to nuclear weapons.
And it wan’t trump that filed for bankruptcy.
Click to expand...
Really? It was someone else? He’s not in charge of his businesses?
 
jediliz said:
The alternative is worse, a lot worse. And throwing away a vote on 3rd party is tossing the vote into the fire…its not going to count in the long run. We need real leadership…our choices are someone who lied to america about Benghazi and compromised National Security. The choice on the republican side is not who I wanted (I wanted Rick Santorum or even Marco Rubio…both would have been MUCH better choices)

With the election comes the appointment of several supreme court justices. There are so many things at stake here. Our religious freedom, 2nd amendment rights, protecting our borders…stopping terrorism…

I can’t trust Hilary. And I am not sure if we can trust Donald, but I can’t trust HILARY.
Click to expand...
Incidentally, did you know that in Trump’s speech at the RNC he NEVER MENTIONED abortion, traditional marriage or religious liberty? Not even once.
 
PRmerger said:
It is utterly chilling to imagine this man with access to nuclear weapons.
Click to expand...
And you trust HILARY with those same codes? She couldn’t be trusted with security of our ambassadors, blaming a video for what was clearly a very well planned attack. I can’t imagine trusting HER with the codes either,
 
jediliz said:
And you trust HILARY with those same codes? She couldn’t be trusted with security of our ambassadors, blaming a video for what was clearly a very well planned attack. I can’t imagine trusting HER with the codes either,
Click to expand...
I trust her. Implicitly.
 
randomuser said:
Easy answer: abortion rates are the lowest they have been since 1973.
washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/study-abortion-rate-at-lowest-point-since-1973/2014/02/02/8dea007c-8a9b-11e3-833c-33098f9e5267_story.html

The evidence shows increase during REPUBLICAN terms, not Democrat.

That’s “proportionate reason.”
Click to expand...
Thanks to the efforts of those of us in the pro-life ministry in our work at crisis pregnancy centers and more importantly the numerous laws restricting abortions passed by Republican legislators in the states all over the unanimous opposition of Democrat legislators

You can find a single member of the magisterium that says the fact that abortions went down under a pro abortion president allows Catholics to vote for pro-abortion candidates please do so
 
jediliz said:
And you trust HILARY with those same codes? She couldn’t be trusted with security of our ambassadors, blaming a video for what was clearly a very well planned attack. I can’t imagine trusting HER with the codes either,
Click to expand...
We already know how Hillary would handle the proverbial 3 AM call
 
estesbob said:
You can find a single member of the magisterium that says the fact that abortions went down under a pro abortion president allows Catholics to vote for pro-abortion candidates please do so
Click to expand...
“argument from silence”. One of the classic logical fallacies.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top