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_Abyssinia said:
But Trump did say that he would nominate somebody with the judicial philosophy of Antonin Scalia. The nomination choice or possible choices for the Supreme Court if more Justices get nominated could well have consequences far longer than the next President’s term or two terms. Mike Pence didn’t mention abortion by name, but he has a track record of doing good things on the issue of life in Indiana.

At the DNC, the President of Planned Parenthood, Cecile Richards was seen sitting near or next to Bill Clinton and she gave a speech at the DNC, the President of NARAL gave a speech and talked about her abortion… which I think received cheers in the audience in response… what about that?!
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[sarcasm]but that doesn’t matter! Democrats care about the poor! They care about the poor![/sarcasm] (unless of course, the poor resides in the womb of a poor woman, then they don’t care. They do care if the child is born…but they don’t care BEFORE).

Planned Parenthood deliberately puts their “clinics” in poor minority neighborhoods…not to HELP these women, but to eliminate their children, since that is what their founder was ALL ABOUT.

Yes, Trump made a mistake saying Planned Parenthood “did good things”…but he probably fell for the old lie of “abortion is only 3% of what we do” that everyone seems to be falling for…except the ones that are very well educated on the history of that organization AND their founder (a racist, who hated the poor, the disabled and blacks, jews and anyone else she considered unfit for having babies)
 
PRmerger said:
The Episcopal church allows abortion, too.

So if one of Trump’s sexual encounters produced a baby and he sought an abortion for this woman and her baby, that’s justified?
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You tell me. You’re virulently supporting someone who thinks it’s justified.
 
DeniseNY said:
I’m stating what the church in which Donald and Melania Trump were married says
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So either he’s an adulterer or not.

Which are you choosing: “he’s not an adulterer because his church says he’s not”
Or “he’s an adulterer because Jesus said he is”?
 
PRmerger said:
So either he’s an adulterer or not.

Which are you choosing: “he’s not an adulterer because his church says he’s not”
Or “he’s an adulterer because Jesus said he is”?
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Which are you choosing? Abortion is murder, or it’s ok to it’s ok to vote for someone whose goal is to make sure abortion on demand remains legal?
 
jediliz said:
Planned Parenthood deliberately puts their “clinics” in poor minority neighborhoods…not to HELP these women, but to eliminate their children, since that is what their founder was ALL ABOUT.
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Not to defend the activities of Planned Parenthood, but there is an alternate explanation of why they would locate their clinics in poor minority neighborhoods. If they believe they are offering a needed service to those who cannot otherwise afford to pay for it, that would be exactly where they would locate clinics. The founder of PP may very well have had terrible eugenics ideas. But I doubt if many working in PP today share those views.
 
DeniseNY said:
Which are you choosing? Abortion is murder, or it’s ok to it’s ok to vote for someone whose goal is to make sure abortion on demand remains legal?
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I’ll answer your question after you answer mine, since it was posed first.

Are you saying that Trump and Melania are not adulterers because their church says they’re not?

IOW:
Are they engaged in adultery or not? Yes or no?
 
PRmerger said:
I’ll answer your question after you answer mine, since it was posed first.

Are you saying that Trump and Melania are not adulterers because their church says they’re not?

IOW:
Are they engaged in adultery or not? Yes or no?
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I think you should take it up with the Episcopal Church.

And the answer to my question is quite obvious.
 
DeniseNY said:
I think you should take it up with the Episcopal Church.

And the answer to my question is quite obvious.
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Look, Denise, it’s quite obvious why you are refusing to answer the question, the very simple question, that I posed.

As a Catholic you should not be equivocating.

Either Jesus was correct or the Episcopal church is correct.

You cannot hide behind the “His church says it’s ok, so therefore it’s fine for him to do this!”
without permitting a very, very treacherous and monstrous position regarding abortion.
 
PRmerger said:
Look, Denise, it’s quite obvious why you are refusing to answer the question, the very simple question, that I posed.

As a Catholic you should not be equivocating.

Either Jesus was correct or the Episcopal church is correct.

You cannot hide behind the “His church says it’s ok, so therefore it’s fine for him to do this!”
without permitting a very, very treacherous and monstrous position regarding abortion.
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Nor should you be equivocating in regards to abortion, which you are, by supporting Hillary Clinton. You are in fact permitting a treacherous and monstrous position by voting for her. Full stop.
 
None of us has the authority to decide who is sinning and who is not.

And I think there is an instruction: to not get into that discussion point.

None of us is the Judge.

Once anyone starts deciding who is in the state of grace and who is not, then we get into progressively thinner ice.
 
Folks: I would like to point out the HUGE DOUBLE STANDARD that is being proposed here.

Huge double standard.

“Donald Trump is not an adulterer because the Episcopal church says he’s not. And he’s bound by the Episcopal views on this!”

And: “An Episcopalian who seeks an abortion is doing something wrong, even if her church permits it. She’s NOT bound by the Episcopal church’s views on this.”
 
PRmerger said:
Folks: I would like to point out the HUGE DOUBLE STANDARD that is being proposed here.

Huge double standard.

“Donald Trump is not an adulterer because the Episcopal church says he’s not. And he’s bound by the Episcopal views on this!”

And: “An Episcopalian who seeks an abortion is doing something wrong, even if her church permits it. She’s NOT bound by the Episcopal church’s views on this.”
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You forgot to include YOUR HUGE DOUBLE STANDARD.

Abortion is murder, but it’s ok to vote for someone who believes in abortion on demand and will fight to do everything in their power to keep it legal because you don’t like the other guy. Therefore, abortion is ok.
 
PRmerger said:
I’ll answer your question after you answer mine, since it was posed first.

Are you saying that Trump and Melania are not adulterers because their church says they’re not?

IOW:
Are they engaged in adultery or not? Yes or no?
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Yes, they are objectively engaging in the act. Their moral culpability is unknown since their ecclesial community teaches in error that it is ok.

Now let’s use the same standard for HC. Is she or is she not actively promoting the killing of innocent children, including demanding taxpayer funding of their murder? Yes or no?

Is HC actively promoting the falsity of SS"M"? Yes or no?

Is HC actively promoting the falsity of trans sexuality? Yes or no?

Please do answer.
 
queenofheartscv said:
What about naked people on the ceiling of the Sistine chapel? His wife was a model. I’ve seen artists works of naked women before. Haven’t you? Statue of David by Michael Angelo? I like that statue even though it gives me the blushes.

How is this the same as pornography?
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You obviously haven’t seen the unedited version of the nude photos of Melania along with Emma. Definitely soft porn.
 
Looks like the NY Post got ahold of Pictures from Mrs. Trump’s days as a porn model. They actually ran a censored picture of her modeling nude on their front page :eek:
And these weren’t “tasteful” nudes, this was porn in a porn magazine. They were apparently taken in the mid 90’s.

Still between that and Donald’s connections with Playboy it sure seems like their family has no issues with the porn industry. Nevermind divorce and remarriage.
 
Padres1969 said:
Looks like the NY Post got ahold of Pictures from Mrs. Trump’s days as a porn model. They actually ran a censored picture of her modeling nude on their front page :eek:
And these weren’t “tasteful” nudes, this was porn in a porn magazine. They were apparently taken in the mid 90’s.

Still between that and Donald’s connections with Playboy it sure seems like their family has no issues with the porn industry. Nevermind divorce and remarriage.
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And Bill’s connections with Jeffrey Epstein? Maybe one could say that the Clinton family has no issues with what Epstein was convicted of.
 
zz912 said:
Yes, they are objectively engaging in the act. Their moral culpability is unknown since their ecclesial community teaches in error that it is ok.
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To be sure. No one is making any assertion about their “moral culpability”.

Only that he is engaging in adultery.
Now let’s use the same standard for HC. Is she or is she not actively promoting the killing of innocent children, including demanding taxpayer funding of their murder? Yes or no?
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I suppose her moral culpability is the same. Her ecclesial community teaches in error that it is ok.
Is HC actively promoting the falsity of SS"M"? Yes or no?
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Same.
Is HC actively promoting the falsity of trans sexuality? Yes or no?
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Same.
 
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