Trump Thread Two

[meltzerboy]

Inaccurate.

Do you consider the pre-ISIS FSA to be a terrorist organization? If so, okay. If not, you can’t blame her, Obama or guys like John McCain for supporting the FSA prior to their allying with Al-Nursa years into the war.

The Bosnian War intervention was an incredible, and rare, success.

Quite true. She did. And it was a major lie.

Um… no? The admin supported regime change in Egypt, which came via the people of Egypt. They then voted in the Muslim Brotherhood. That’s not the US’ fault. And, of course, al-Sisi rectified that.

Ugh. Cannot believe I just even partially defended Hillary. Gonna go take a bath now.

LOL Focus on the comment about the major lie, which may cleanse you. Then take a bath.

 

[Al_Moritz]

It’s scary that Hillary would do it too. After all, she authored the disastrous war against Libya, shipped weapons to terrorist organizations in Syria, reveled in the war against Serbia and claimed to have been in a combat zone, and turned Egypt over to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Trump has never started a war. Sooo, as between the two of them, Dems who purport to be all for peace, should run from Hillary like a train from a tramp. But they don’t.

You can impossibly be serious.

Trump’s behavior suggests an unstable and ignorant person. Hillary is neither.

washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/30/heres-the-growing-list-of-big-name-republicans-supporting-hillary-clinton/

From the link, big-name Republicans who support Clinton:

Brent Scowcroft, chairman of the President’s Intelligence Advisory Board and adviser to three previous GOP presidents — “The presidency requires the judgment and knowledge to make tough calls under pressure… [Clinton] has the wisdom and experience to lead our country at this critical time.”

Max Boot, senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and adviser to GOP presidential candidates — “I’m literally losing sleep over Donald Trump. She would be vastly preferable to Trump.”

Dan Akerson, former chairman and chief executive of General Motors — “Serving as the leader of the free world requires effective leadership, sound judgment, a steady hand and, most importantly, the temperament to deal with crises large and small. Donald Trump lacks each of these characteristics.”

Mark Salter, former top adviser to John McCain — “Whatever Hillary Clinton’s faults, she’s not ignorant or hateful or a nut. She acts like an adult and understands the responsibilities of an American president. That might not be a ringing endorsement. But in 2016, the year of Trump’s s campaign, it’s more than enough.”

 

[The_Bucket]

LOL Focus on the comment about the major lie, which may cleanse you. Then take a bath.

It doesn’t really, since there’s really no question she’s going to win.

I mean, every day I look at the polls and, now that they’ve turned think, “thank God Trump’s not gonna win.”

And then I remember what it means as far as who is going to win. Oy.

Never been more glad that His Kingdom is not of this world.

 

[Ridgerunner]

You can impossibly be serious.

Trump’s behavior suggests an unstable and ignorant person. Hillary is neither.

washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/30/heres-the-growing-list-of-big-name-republicans-supporting-hillary-clinton/

From the link, big-name Republicans who support Clinton:

Brent Scowcroft, chairman of the President’s Intelligence Advisory Board and adviser to three previous GOP presidents — “The presidency requires the judgment and knowledge to make tough calls under pressure… [Clinton] has the wisdom and experience to lead our country at this critical time.”

Max Boot, senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and adviser to GOP presidential candidates — “I’m literally losing sleep over Donald Trump. She would be vastly preferable to Trump.”

Dan Akerson, former chairman and chief executive of General Motors — “Serving as the leader of the free world requires effective leadership, sound judgment, a steady hand and, most importantly, the temperament to deal with crises large and small. Donald Trump lacks each of these characteristics.”

Mark Salter, former top adviser to John McCain — “Whatever Hillary Clinton’s faults, she’s not ignorant or hateful or a nut. She acts like an adult and understands the responsibilities of an American president. That might not be a ringing endorsement. But in 2016, the year of Trump’s s campaign, it’s more than enough.”

Remarkable to see “neocons”, so vilified by the left previously, hailed as saints and seers now by the very same people. I guess the DNC knows no shame at all; sort of like having anti-Semitic reveries and tactics in their emails while claiming the “Jewish vote” as their own.

 

[3omega]

Remarkable to see “neocons”, so vilified by the left previously, hailed as saints and seers now by the very same people. I guess the DNC knows no shame at all; sort of like having anti-Semitic reveries and tactics in their emails while claiming the “Jewish vote” as their own.

I think most Democrats think that Trump shouldn’t be Commander in Chief as well.

 

[Ridgerunner]

It doesn’t really, since there’s really no question she’s going to win.

I mean, every day I look at the polls and, now that they’ve turned think, “thank God Trump’s not gonna win.”

And then I remember what it means as far as who is going to win. Oy.

Never been more glad that His Kingdom is not of this world.

But His competitor can certainly rule much in this world. And when well-meaning people embrace abortion on demand, including partial birth abortion and homosexual profanation of marriage, and corruption in office because the promoter of those things’ opposition candidate can be ill-mannered according to media-derived sensitivities, one can easily conclude that God’s competitor is, indeed, in control of much of it. Death on a massive scale is outweighed by rough manners? What have we come to?

But hope springs eternal. Despite the current polls, one can hope that those who think modern, bogus, political correctness is a crock, will carry the day.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I think most Democrats think that Trump shouldn’t be Commander in Chief as well.

Well of course not. Now that they nominated a warlike “neocon” themselves, they really can’t be for a person who opposed every war she endorsed or started.

 

[3omega]

Well of course not. Now that they nominated a warlike “neocon” themselves, they really can’t be for a person who opposed every war she endorsed or started.

I don’t consider Clinton a neocon. I don’t think most people do.

 

[Inisfallen]

I’ve been reading a lot, I mean a lot, about the upcoming election, and this whole thing is a very bad scenario.

Right now (and I have no actual evidence for this, it’s just a feeling) I think it’s about 50/50, not a sure thing, that Trump will drop out before the election.

If polls start to show that it’s nearly a sure thing that Clinton will win the general election, he’ll drop out. I don’t think he can face the prospect of losing – he just won’t be able to handle that.

Time may tell if I’m right nor not.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I don’t consider Clinton a neocon. I don’t think most people do.

I’ll grant she certainly isn’t a “conservative” except for being on the side of big business. So, “neocon” doesn’t work precisely. But warlike and interventionist, she certainly is. The old Repub “neocons” were condemned by the left mostly for their interventionist and warlike policies. Hillary Clinton is, if anything, even more so.

For some reason, Dems just don’t want to admit they are backing a person who, when it comes to foreign policy, is more warlike and interventionist than the “neocons” they purported to hate so much.

Hard to imagine there’s anything about her they could like except perhaps abortion on demand.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I’ve been reading a lot, I mean a lot, about the upcoming election, and this whole thing is a very bad scenario.

Right now (and I have no actual evidence for this, it’s just a feeling) I think it’s about 50/50, not a sure thing, that Trump will drop out before the election.

If polls start to show that it’s nearly a sure thing that Clinton will win the general election, he’ll drop out. I don’t think he can face the prospect of losing – he just won’t be able to handle that.

Time may tell if I’m right nor not.

I’m not a gambling man, but I would take the bet against that in a heartbeat.

 

[_Abyssinia]

I’ve been reading a lot, I mean a lot, about the upcoming election, and this whole thing is a very bad scenario.

Right now (and I have no actual evidence for this, it’s just a feeling) I think it’s about 50/50, not a sure thing, that Trump will drop out before the election.

If polls start to show that it’s nearly a sure thing that Clinton will win the general election, he’ll drop out. I don’t think he can face the prospect of losing – he just won’t be able to handle that.

Time may tell if I’m right nor not.

I really don’t think that’s going to happen.

 

[_Abyssinia]

I’ve been reading a lot, I mean a lot, about the upcoming election, and this whole thing is a very bad scenario.

Right now (and I have no actual evidence for this, it’s just a feeling) I think it’s about 50/50, not a sure thing, that Trump will drop out before the election.

If polls start to show that it’s nearly a sure thing that Clinton will win the general election, he’ll drop out. I don’t think he can face the prospect of losing – he just won’t be able to handle that.

Time may tell if I’m right nor not.

I really do not think that will happen

 

[Vouthon]

The old Repub “neocons” were condemned by the left mostly for their interventionist and warlike policies.

Those were the Republicans I liked and still do. Free trade, value-driven foreign policies and what-not.

I’d gladly take a so-called “neo-con” any day of the week over a populist, protectionist, isolationist, nativist demagogue former TV personality; who apparently believes, with all sincerity, that Russia has not invaded and annexed part of Ukraine, while also calling for the disbanding of NATO and defaming the grieving mother of a deceased American war hero simply because she happens to be a Muslim.

The rest of the world saw a grieving mother. Trump saw a “Muslim”. To me, that tells me all I need to know about his worldview - a backward, prejudiced worldview that benefits no one.

Please bring back the “neo-cons”.

 

[The_Bucket]

one can hope that those who think modern, bogus, political correctness is a crock…

I absolutely believe all of those things.

And I will never, ever, ever, ever, vote for Trump. Never.

 

[The_Bucket]

Those were the Republicans I liked and still do.

I’d gladly take a so-called “neo-con” any day of the week over a populist, protectionist, isolationist nativist, who apparently believes, with all sincerity, that Russia has not invaded and annexed part of Ukraine, while also calling for the disbanding of NATO and defaming the mother of a deceased war hero simply because she happens to be a Muslim.

Please bring back the “neo-cons”.

Isolationism and nationalism only leads to massive conflagrations. We as humanity have literally done this dozens of times. The post-World War II order has been, in the main, the most peaceful order ever.

Syria aside, tell me where there’s an ongoing horrendous war? Not really anywhere. The 19th and 20th centuries had horrific bloodshed constantly.

 

[Michael_Mayo]

But His competitor can certainly rule much in this world. And when well-meaning people embrace abortion on demand, including partial birth abortion and homosexual profanation of marriage, and corruption in office because the promoter of those things’ opposition candidate can be ill-mannered according to media-derived sensitivities, one can easily conclude that God’s competitor is, indeed, in control of much of it. Death on a massive scale is outweighed by rough manners? What have we come to?

But hope springs eternal. Despite the current polls, one can hope that those who think modern, bogus, political correctness is a crock, will carry the day.

At this point it is far beyond social issues, ill-manners and political correctness.

Trump Allies Plot Candidate Intervention After Disastrous 48 Hours
nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-allies-plot-candidate-intervention-after-disastrous-48-hours-n622216

 

[The_Bucket]

At this point it is far beyond social issues, ill-manners and political correctness.

Trump Allies Plot Candidate Intervention After Disastrous 48 Hours
nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-allies-plot-candidate-intervention-after-disastrous-48-hours-n622216

Trump will reinforce “political correctness” and social liberalism beyond the left’s wildest dreams. The majority’s revulsion towards him (he has unfavorable ratings around 60% or so) will push them more strongly into the left’s camp when it comes to these issues.

He has totally ignored the right to life and doesn’t say word one about marriage. And that’s not a “strategy.” It’s that he doesn’t care about it.

We are moving into post-Christian politics.

 

[Vouthon]

Isolationism and nationalism only leads to massive conflagrations. We as humanity have literally done this dozens of times. The post-World War II order has been, in the main, the most peaceful order ever.

Syria aside, tell me where there’s an ongoing horrendous war? Not really anywhere. The 19th and 20th centuries had horrific bloodshed constantly.

I completely agree.

The populists are immune to reason, though. They feed off raw emotions to get votes. Isolationism and nationalism are great ways of drumming up support among those whom globalization has allegedly “left behind”. A time-honoured strategy, actually. I just didn’t expect it to arise so vehemently in the world’s most important democracy and guarantor of global stability, the U.S… I am petrified by a Trump presidency - what it bodes for international security, trade and diplomacy.

Trump has not a clue, not the faintest, about anything that’s actually going on in international relations at the moment.

Based upon his statements, he is either a remarkably dim-witted dullard with serious illiteracy issues regarding basic world affairs frequently in the news (traits I would feel are not congruent with his reputation as a savvy businessmen), or a Machiavellian schemer who is exploiting the economically disadvantaged with fantasies to augment his own grasp at power.

 

[mary_bobo]

Hard to imagine there’s anything about her they could like except perhaps abortion on demand.

That is the be all, and end all, for liberals these days. I wonder how they would feel if they had ever seen a pre-term baby, born before its time, struggling to breathe and live? I did, in med school, and it changed me forever.