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_Abyssinia
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Is it correct that the Democratic turnout advantage was +6 in 2012? The Monmouth University poll has a Democratic advantage +9. Do you think there will be a +9 Democratic advantage in turnout?
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_Abyssinia
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And what makes up this forecast? Polls, right? Like the ABC Washington Post poll that recently came out that had a +10 Democratic sample? How many other polls in that forecast have a sample of Democrats that is almost double what the turnout of Democrats was in 2012?In Nate Silver’s Five Thirty Eight Now-cast (“Who would win an election today”), Clinton is now ahead of Trump even in South Carolina and Arizona. Trump’s chance of winning is down to 4.6% to Hillary’s 95.4%.
projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo#now
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Thorolfr
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More bad news for Mr. Trump:
Donald Trump “would be the most reckless president in American history,” 50 senior Republican national security officials, many of whom worked in the George W. Bush administration, write in a letter, according to the New York Times.
bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2016-08-08/50-gop-national-security-officials-denounce-trump-in-letter-nytSignatories include Michael V. Hayden, former director of CIA and National Security Agency; John D. Negroponte, who was the first director of national intelligence; Robert B. Zoellick, former deputy secretary of state; Tom Ridge and Michael Chertoff, former secretaries of homeland security
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Padres1969
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Looks like some conservative Anti-Trump Republicans are planning to run a competing candidate, Evan McMullin, in as many states as they can. Particularly Utah.
nytimes.com/2016/08/09/us/politics/evan-mcmullin-independent-candidate.html?_r=0
nytimes.com/2016/08/09/us/politics/evan-mcmullin-independent-candidate.html?_r=0
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Tomdstone
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Terrorism is a problem in the Philippines. And they have 10 million Muslims.migrationpolicy.org/article/filipino-immigrants-united-states
Hmm. I seems the Filipino immigrants intigrate successfully at high rates in the US.
Many Filipino immigrants have higher education, jobs, speak English proficiently. They seem to have higher employment rates and incomes.
Oh, and they are usually practicing Catholics
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Tomdstone
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I doubt it. I think it was reckless for Truman to drop the atomic bomb.More bad news for Mr. Trump:
…Donald Trump “would be the most reckless president in American history,”
It was reckless for Johnson to enlarge the Vietnam war.
It was reckless of Bush to invade Iraq and use rendition to kidnap and torture people.
Mary_Gail_36
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He was commenting on halting Filipino immigration, while ignoring that as an immigrant group they are generally successful.Terrorism is a problem in the Philippines. And they have 10 million Muslims.
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Monte_RCMS
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There is a LOT of catching up to do!I’m an educated person and until coming here to CAF had never even heard of Margaret Sanger before.
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Ridgerunner
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That somebody says he would be bad news as a president when it comes to foreign policy?
How could he possibly be worse than Obama/Clinton, during whose tenure Russia conquered Crimea and eastern Ukraine, Libya was turned into a terrorist state, the administration was backed down by a tinhorn dictator in Syria, the administration ran guns to terrorists in Syria, $140 billion was given to the largest state sponsor of terror, 20% of U.S. uranium production was given to Russia and Iran, our air force is the de facto Iranian air force in Iraq and Syria, and the administration backed the Muslim Brotherhood’s takeover in Egypt?
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Margaret Sanger.
And didn’t the candidate in this thread not only say Planned Parenthood does wonderful things, but also received letters as testemonials from thousands of women telling him how great their care was at PP.
Do we remember that she advocated contraception and sterilization? Stuff planned parenthood does. And he’s fine paying for.
And didn’t the candidate in this thread not only say Planned Parenthood does wonderful things, but also received letters as testemonials from thousands of women telling him how great their care was at PP.
Do we remember that she advocated contraception and sterilization? Stuff planned parenthood does. And he’s fine paying for.
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Tomdstone
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Mr. Trump seems to be friendly to Mr. Putin. IMHO, this would be good policy, but many Americans are suspicious of Mr. Putin.That somebody says he would be bad news as a president when it comes to foreign policy?
How could he possibly be worse than Obama/Clinton, during whose tenure Russia conquered Crimea and eastern Ukraine, Libya was turned into a terrorist state, the administration was backed down by a tinhorn dictator in Syria, the administration ran guns to terrorists in Syria, $140 billion was given to the largest state sponsor of terror, 20% of U.S. uranium production was given to Russia and Iran, our air force is the de facto Iranian air force in Iraq and Syria, and the administration backed the Muslim Brotherhood’s takeover in Egypt?
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Fresh batch of Republicans defect to Clinton
A former aide of President George W. Bush undercut Donald Trump’s economic address before it even began Monday, leading the latest batch of Republican defections by casting Hillary Clinton as the best candidate to grow the economy.
“Our nation faces a unique set of challenges that require steady and experienced leadership. That is why today I am personally supporting Hillary Clinton,” Lezlee Westine said in a statement to The Washington Post.
Westine, who served as the White House’s director of public liaison and deputy assistant to the president in the Bush administration, is part of the latest contingent of Republicans to cross party lines to back Clinton.
“She has the expertise and commitment to American values to grow the economy, create jobs and protect America at home and abroad,” Westine added.
Westine is joined by former Michigan Gov. William Milliken, who suggested a vote for Trump would be a choice to “embark on a path that has doomed other governments and nations throughout history.”
“I am saddened and dismayed that the Republican Party this year has nominated a candidate who has repeatedly demonstrated that he does not embrace those ideals,” Milliken said in a statement, according to the Detroit Free Press. “Because I feel so strongly about our nation’s future, I will be joining the growing list of former and present government officials in casting my vote for Hillary Clinton for president in 2016.”
Former New Hampshire Sen. Gordon Humphrey said he would cast his ballot for Clinton if she were “neck and neck” with Trump in his state. But Trump, he said, is a “defective nominee” who is **“deranged” **and whose “psyche is sick,” and the Republican National Committee should replace him as the nominee.
“It would be the height of irresponsibility to give him the powers of the presidency. It would be an act of recklessness to give him the office of commander in chief,” he told MSNBC on Monday. “This needs to be said, and there’s a growing census in agreement that Donald Trump is mentally unfit to be president of the United States. And the RNC on that account, this week or next, should revoke the nomination and choose a candidate who is experienced, but at the same time, of mental soundness.”
A former aide of President George W. Bush undercut Donald Trump’s economic address before it even began Monday, leading the latest batch of Republican defections by casting Hillary Clinton as the best candidate to grow the economy.
“Our nation faces a unique set of challenges that require steady and experienced leadership. That is why today I am personally supporting Hillary Clinton,” Lezlee Westine said in a statement to The Washington Post.
Westine, who served as the White House’s director of public liaison and deputy assistant to the president in the Bush administration, is part of the latest contingent of Republicans to cross party lines to back Clinton.
“She has the expertise and commitment to American values to grow the economy, create jobs and protect America at home and abroad,” Westine added.
Westine is joined by former Michigan Gov. William Milliken, who suggested a vote for Trump would be a choice to “embark on a path that has doomed other governments and nations throughout history.”
“I am saddened and dismayed that the Republican Party this year has nominated a candidate who has repeatedly demonstrated that he does not embrace those ideals,” Milliken said in a statement, according to the Detroit Free Press. “Because I feel so strongly about our nation’s future, I will be joining the growing list of former and present government officials in casting my vote for Hillary Clinton for president in 2016.”
Former New Hampshire Sen. Gordon Humphrey said he would cast his ballot for Clinton if she were “neck and neck” with Trump in his state. But Trump, he said, is a “defective nominee” who is **“deranged” **and whose “psyche is sick,” and the Republican National Committee should replace him as the nominee.
“It would be the height of irresponsibility to give him the powers of the presidency. It would be an act of recklessness to give him the office of commander in chief,” he told MSNBC on Monday. “This needs to be said, and there’s a growing census in agreement that Donald Trump is mentally unfit to be president of the United States. And the RNC on that account, this week or next, should revoke the nomination and choose a candidate who is experienced, but at the same time, of mental soundness.”
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chero23
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Why would we want to be friendly to Putin?Mr. Trump seems to be friendly to Mr. Putin. IMHO, this would be good policy, but many Americans are suspicious of Mr. Putin.
He has not been the most Pro- West ally, just look at his stance in Syria and Crimea, and the close encounters the Russian Air Force has been with the US Navy.
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chero23
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I heard on CNN today, but I couldn’t find a poll to back it, but in Utah, Trump is 29%, HRC 27% and Johnson 22%Looks like some conservative Anti-Trump Republicans are planning to run a competing candidate, Evan McMullin, in as many states as they can. Particularly Utah.
nytimes.com/2016/08/09/us/politics/evan-mcmullin-independent-candidate.html?_r=0
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chero23
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I don’t blame them for what they did. Not that HRC is an angel sent from heaven though.
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Ridgerunner
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Probably so is Trump.Mr. Trump seems to be friendly to Mr. Putin. IMHO, this would be good policy, but many Americans are suspicious of Mr. Putin.
Something about the Philippines thing. The media is in such attack mode that Trump can’t say anything about anything without someone calling it racist or bigoted or something. What’s the reality? The reality is that a significant percentage of Muslims anywhere have jihadi sympathies. It’s disconcertingly high, even in the U.S. Some polls have indicated as high as 1/3 in the United States. Other, more conservative polls put it at 10% worldwide. I have yet to see any lower than that.
The Philippine “Moros” (Muslims) have been fighting against the Christian majority there for centuries. There have been plenty of “Moro” terrorist activities in the Philippines, and they control a substantial part of Mindanao, but carry on their activities outside of it as well.
ISIS has told us straight up that the Syrian/Iraqi/Whatever 'refugees" include terrorists.
Trump says he wants a pause on immigration of Muslims. Firestorm erupts. Trump says he wants a pause on people from countries where terrorism is significant. Firestorm erupts.
Apparently nobody can say “Well, Syrian, Filipino, etc Christians are welcome, but only them”. No, can’t say that or am even bigger firestorm would erupt, even though it’s the most sensible thing in the world and nobody but a fool really wants more immigration by Muslims at all, let alone by Muslims who can’t be checked out for violent sympathies.
So, political correctness and unwillingness to limit immigration to people whose religions are not warlike, prevails, and nobody can say what he really means.
The Islamic terror groups take us for fools in all of this immigration business, and they’re exactly right in thinking it.
Worse, though, Americans have taught themselves not to admit the truth for fear of being labeled “racist” or “bigoted”.
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Ridgerunner
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Nobody who views Hillary Clinton’s laughing at Khaddaffi’s torture/death could possibly think Trump is the more unbalanced of the two candidates.Fresh batch of Republicans defect to Clinton
“It would be the height of irresponsibility to give him the powers of the presidency. It would be an act of recklessness to give him the office of commander in chief,” he told MSNBC on Monday. “This needs to be said, and there’s a growing census in agreement that Donald Trump is mentally unfit to be president of the United States. And the RNC on that account, this week or next, should revoke the nomination and choose a candidate who is experienced, but at the same time, of mental soundness.”
These Repubs may think they’re wise, and, well, just “better people” than Trump, but what they’re really going to do is make their own party shrink. If Hillary Clinton wins, a lot of people are going to blame them and the Repub party will find itself trying to find a populist message and not finding it. Dems would want that, of course, but the Repubs shouldn’t.
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chero23
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Trump did ask for trouble though. Have some of the stiff that he has said been true? Of course, but is what he says after, thta makes you say hmmm, is this man running for president?Probably so is Trump.
Something about the Philippines thing. The media is in such attack mode that Trump can’t say anything about anything without someone calling it racist or bigoted or something. What’s the reality? The reality is that a significant percentage of Muslims anywhere have jihadi sympathies. It’s disconcertingly high, even in the U.S. Some polls have indicated as high as 1/3 in the United States. Other, more conservative polls put it at 10% worldwide. I have yet to see any lower than that.
The Philippine “Moros” (Muslims) have been fighting against the Christian majority there for centuries. There have been plenty of “Moro” terrorist activities in the Philippines, and they control a substantial part of Mindanao, but carry on their activities outside of it as well.
ISIS has told us straight up that the Syrian/Iraqi/Whatever 'refugees" include terrorists.
Trump says he wants a pause on immigration of Muslims. Firestorm erupts. Trump says he wants a pause on people from countries where terrorism is significant. Firestorm erupts.
Apparently nobody can say “Well, Syrian, Filipino, etc Christians are welcome, but only them”. No, can’t say that or am even bigger firestorm would erupt, even though it’s the most sensible thing in the world and nobody but a fool really wants more immigration by Muslims at all, let alone by Muslims who can’t be checked out for violent sympathies.
So, political correctness and unwillingness to limit immigration to people whose religions are not warlike, prevails, and nobody can say what he really means.
The Islamic terror groups take us for fools in all of this immigration business, and they’re exactly right in thinking it.
Worse, though, Americans have taught themselves not to admit the truth for fear of being labeled “racist” or “bigoted”.
You can (when I mean you is everyone who has used this defense) that he is not a politician. That was ok in the primaries, now is the big leagues. We are coming up on the debates. The kids will go back to school, the race will be in its crucial moments. No longer can we argue, well he’s not a politician, bc guess what if he wins? We win’t be able to use that argument.
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