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Peter_J
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What’s wrong with Cruz and Kasich?
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Mary_Gail_36
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I mean if the two candidates in November are Trump and Hillary. (Or Bernie).What’s wrong with Cruz and Kasich?
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JimG
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The law would not be useless. If abortionists face legal sanctions, they would not do abortions.Then the law would be useless
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estesbob
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The law would be the same as it was before roe was imposed-the Abortion provider would be charged with a felonyThen the law would be useless
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JimR-OCDS
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Cruz is a crackpot and con artist who’s shenanigans manipulating the stock market during the the government shutdown will be exposed, as his wife made huge capital gains while working as a VP at Goldman Sachs.What’s wrong with Cruz and Kasich?
Kasich, the better man out of all the GOP candidates, but hasn’t the charisma to draw the women vote away from Hillary.
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estesbob
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Ill write you in and you can write me in!Me too.
But I might write someone in.
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JimR-OCDS
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and the woman would also have to be charged for she sought out the abortion provider and paid for it.The law would be the same as it was before roe was imposed-the Abortion provider would be charged with a felony
Now either she sought to have her unborn child murdered, or its not really murder. You decide.
If she took a contract out to have her husband killed, she’d be sentenced for murder as well as the killer.
Why would it be different in an abortion ?
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Mary_Gail_36
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That’s what my DH told me. My neighbor let me know she’ll be voting for Mickey Mouse.Ill write you in and you can write me in!
My kids had a cute story book called “Duck for President” he might be a good choice as well.
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Lily_Bernans
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If a woman who seeks out and pays an abortionist, should abortion become illegal, is not charged with some degree of murder then I think that’s sending the message that the fetus was not a person, and if it is not a person, then abortion should be legal.and the woman would also have to be charged for she sought out the abortion provider and paid for it.
Now either she sought to have her unborn child murdered, or its not really murder. You decide.
If she took a contract out to have her husband killed, she’d be sentenced for murder as well as the killer.
Why would it be different in an abortion ?
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JimG
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If there is no abortionist to seek out because abortion is not a legal practice, then we need not worry about punishing women.If a woman who seeks out and pays an abortionist, should abortion become illegal, is not charged with some degree of murder then I think that’s sending the message that the fetus was not a person, and if it is not a person, then abortion should be legal.
Punishing women is and has always been a pro-abortion argument, not a pro-life argument.
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Peter_J
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#ClinTrumpI mean if the two candidates in November are Trump and Hillary. (Or Bernie).
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Lily_Bernans
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What’s wrong with Trumpkin? It’s cute! It rhymes with pumpkin! If they were running mates, we could ask, “Are you going to vote for Trumpkin?”#ClinTrump
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FollowChrist34
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Trump is not inevitable. Get out and vote for Cruz or Kasich in your primaries if they are still coming up. Do your part.
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Peter_J
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So is a person not a person if that’s more convenient for society?and the woman would also have to be charged for she sought out the abortion provider and paid for it.
Now either she sought to have her unborn child murdered, or its not really murder. You decide.
If she took a contract out to have her husband killed, she’d be sentenced for murder as well as the killer.
Why would it be different in an abortion ?
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Peter_J
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Indeed. As you said earlier, I’ve probably been listening to too much Eric Bolling.Trump is not inevitable. Get out and vote for Cruz or Kasich in your primaries if they are still coming up. Do your part.
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Lily_Bernans
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At times I don’t think Trump will be the candidate. I don’t think any GOP candidate will arrive at the convention with the required number of delegates. But I’m not a Republican. I already voted for Sanders, and if Hillary secures the nomination, which seems likely, I will vote for her.Trump is not inevitable. Get out and vote for Cruz or Kasich in your primaries if they are still coming up. Do your part.
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Peter_J
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So (if you feel like answering) would you also support DJT if he were the nominee of the Democratic Party?At times I don’t think Trump will be the candidate. I don’t think any GOP candidate will arrive at the convention with the required number of delegates. But I’m not a Republican. I already voted for Sanders, and if Hillary secures the nomination, which seems likely, I will vote for her.
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Lily_Bernans
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LOL No, no possible way. I have voted Republican in a general election, but not often.So (if you feel like answering) would you also support DJT if he were the nominee of the Democratic Party?
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FollowChrist34
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I can’t picture Trump winning the nomination - but that could just be a psychological self-preservation mechanism on my part, blinding me. I think it will go to Cruz, after quite a tussle, and some amazing historic TV at the convention, protests, battles inside, etc.At times I don’t think Trump will be the candidate. I don’t think any GOP candidate will arrive at the convention with the required number of delegates. But I’m not a Republican. I already voted for Sanders, and if Hillary secures the nomination, which seems likely, I will vote for her.
Trump gets behind Cruz - does not go third party (is secretly relieved he is off the hook) Cruz has a decent chance against Hillary, when it comes down to it, the election would be a nail biter, very close, probably go her way, but maybe not - could go his. 60% chance Hillary wins; 40% Cruz wins. (if Rubio and Kasich are on board with Cruz as well - I bump him up to 55-60% chance of beating Hillary; again, Trumpers on board)
Unfortunately Kasich and Cruz are at each others’ throats again on the campaign trail - very unfortunate. So of course I am assuming all that gets worked out.
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Lily_Bernans
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If Trump arrives at the convention just short of the needed delegates, it doesn’t seem right to deny him the nomination. The voters will have made him their choice. I think Hillary, should she be the nominee, and it looks like she will be, would steamroll over Trump.I can’t picture Trump winning the nomination - but that could just be a psychological self-preservation mechanism on my part, blinding me. I think it will go to Cruz, after quite a tussle, and some amazing historic TV at the convention, protests, battles inside, etc.
Trump gets behind Cruz - does not go third party (is secretly relieved he is off the hook) Cruz has a decent chance against Hillary, when it comes down to it, the election would be a nail biter, very close, probably go her way, but maybe not - could go his. 60% chance Hillary wins; 40% Cruz wins. (if Rubio and Kasich are on board with Cruz as well - I bump him up to 55-60% chance of beating Hillary; again, Trumpers on board)
Unfortunately Kasich and Cruz are at each others’ throats again on the campaign trail - very unfortunate. So of course I am assuming all that gets worked out.
Cruz just seems so unlikable. The man has no charisma. Of course, Hillary doesn’t have a lot of natural likability, either.
I don’t think Rubio or Kasich will get behind Cruz. Rubio is adamant about his life going to be private, and Kasich is so stubborn.
I think maybe the Trump supporters might not vote rather than vote for Cruz, but that could be wishful thinking on my part. LOL
Oh, to have been a fly on the wall when Trump met with the RNC today! I wonder what they really talked about? I don’t suppose we’ll ever know.
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