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mary_bobo said:
It could mean that Gingrich thinks Trump is running a good campaign, not that he himself appeals to Gingrich. We sometimes read what we want to into a statement.
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Well maybe. He said three great candidates … if he was only talking about how well (successfully) they’ve run their campaigns, then he didn’t express himself well at all IMO.
 
When the United States proudly elected and reelected Barack Obama, we took a positive giant-step in our evolution as a nation. Bolstered by the promise inherent in our progress, I believed, along with many others, in our ability to continue moving forward.

But, apparently, we are instead degenerating. We are dragging our knuckles and stooping to the shameful level of potentially electing Donald Trump: a serial liar, racist, narcissist, buffoon — with no experience whatsoever in public office.

Those are the first two paragraphs of Donald Trump’s Followers: A Blind Rebellion.

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I have to say Wow.

While I read the first paragraph I briefly entertained the hope that the propaganda about how electing Obama twice meant a “positive giant-step in our evolution as a nation” was, if not flat-out sarcasm, at least something the author planned to mitigate in the rest of the article.

That hope radically dimmed as I read paragraph after paragraph that made the GOP out to be savages unfit to share this land with the Democratic Party. Not to mention how he completely ignores the incredible amount of demagoguery that *Obama *has engaged in (and continues to engage in).

My question is: Is that the way *most *Dems see us Republicans? If so – and considering that we haven’t even nominated Trump, yet – then we’d better be prepared for an enormous amount of the same if and when the Clinton/Trump duopoly becomes a reality. :ouch:
 
Do not be misled and disturbed over the Huffington Post. Do avoid it altogether and save yourself from being slimed.
 
Peter_J said:
When the United States proudly elected and reelected Barack Obama, we took a positive giant-step in our evolution as a nation. Bolstered by the promise inherent in our progress, I believed, along with many others, in our ability to continue moving forward.

But, apparently, we are instead degenerating. We are dragging our knuckles and stooping to the shameful level of potentially electing Donald Trump: a serial liar, racist, narcissist, buffoon — with no experience whatsoever in public office.

Those are the first two paragraphs of Donald Trump’s Followers: A Blind Rebellion.

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I have to say Wow.

While I read the first paragraph I briefly entertained the hope that the propaganda about how electing Obama twice meant a “positive giant-step in our evolution as a nation” was, if not flat-out sarcasm, at least something the author planned to mitigate in the rest of the article.

That hope radically dimmed as I read paragraph after paragraph that made the GOP out to be savages unfit to share this land with the Democratic Party. Not to mention how he completely ignores the incredible amount of demagoguery that *Obama *has engaged in (and continues to engage in).

My question is: Is that the way *most *Dems see us Republicans? If so – and considering that we haven’t even nominated Trump, yet – then we’d better be prepared for an enormous amount of the same if and when the Clinton/Trump duopoly becomes a reality. :ouch:
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I’m an Independent who almost always votes Democratic. I don’t see Republicans that way. In fact, I don’t see them as much different from Democrats now. I do see them as more conservative, and that’s about it.
 
Mary_Gail_36 said:
That article did link to Five things to know about Heidi Cruz.

cbsnews.com/news/five-things-to-know-about-heidi-cruz/

She has an MBA from Harvard Business school.
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The spat between Trump and Cruz over their wives and other statements by Trump about women are probably going to further alienate women from the GOP nominee.

Here’s some of what has happened so far:

Anti-Trump Super PAC circulates ad with risque photo of Melania Trump. “Meet Melania Trump. Your next first lady. Or, you could support Ted Cruz on Tuesday,” the ad read.

Trump: “Be careful, Lyin’ Ted, or I will spill the beans on your wife!”

Trump campaign retweets image contrasting picture of Melania Trump with unflattering picture of Heidi Cruz with caption: “The images are worth a thousand words.”

Cruz: “Donald, you’re a sniveling coward. Leave Heidi the hell alone.”

Senator Lindsey Graham: "I’m worried that young women think that the standard-bearer of the Republican Party believes that Megyn Kelly is a bimbo.”

Trump in the past has said that Clinton is “very shrill” and that in 2008 she “got schlonged” by Obama.
 
Thorolfr said:
The spat between Trump and Cruz over their wives and other statements by Trump about women are probably going to further alienate women from the GOP nominee.
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If it’s Cruz (assuming that still a possibility – i.e. that there isn’t already a Clinton/Trump duopoly) do you believe women wouldn’t vote for him because he didn’t come out strongly enough against Trump’s misogyny?
 
Lily_Bernans said:
I’m an Independent who almost always votes Democratic. I don’t see Republicans that way. In fact, I don’t see them as much different from Democrats now. I do see them as more conservative, and that’s about it.
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Thank you. 🙂
 
Thorolfr said:
The spat between Trump and Cruz over their wives and other statements by Trump about women are probably going to further alienate women from the GOP nominee.

Here’s some of what has happened so far:

Anti-Trump Super PAC circulates ad with risque photo of Melania Trump. “Meet Melania Trump. Your next first lady. Or, you could support Ted Cruz on Tuesday,” the ad read.

Trump: “Be careful, Lyin’ Ted, or I will spill the beans on your wife!”

Trump campaign retweets image contrasting picture of Melania Trump with unflattering picture of Heidi Cruz with caption: “The images are worth a thousand words.”

Cruz: “Donald, you’re a sniveling coward. Leave Heidi the hell alone.”

Senator Lindsey Graham: "I’m worried that young women think that the standard-bearer of the Republican Party believes that Megyn Kelly is a bimbo.”

Trump in the past has said that Clinton is “very shrill” and that in 2008 she “got schlonged” by Obama.
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They should just leave wives and children out of it and stick to the issues. They’ve hitting below the belt, and voters don’t like that. They cause people to lose respect for them when they do that. I respect the way Bernie Sanders has conducted himself.
 
Lily_Bernans said:
They should just leave wives and children out of it and stick to the issues. They’ve hitting below the belt, and voters don’t like that. They cause people to lose respect for them when they do that. I respect the way Bernie Sanders has conducted himself.
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Certainly possible many will lose respect. But as I see it, Cruz was complicit in the Melania ad in Utah and, as with Hillary and Bill, Trump is saying “…don’t be doing this Ted, you’ll regret it…”

It worked with Hillary, at least for awhile. Trump is dirty out in the open, but others are dirty under the surface. As between the two, I prefer the first.
 
Peter_J said:
P.S. Alright, I haven’t been able to find a quote like that.

But there is the old “Teamwork is a bunch of people doing what I say”, which I think could be adapted here: to Mr. Trump majority means “a bunch of people doing what I say”. 👍
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L’État, c’est moi.
Not to anyone personally but you guys sure do have stamina. We can’t hardly wait for the start of your next election campaign on Nov. 9, 2016. 🙂
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Like I said, you have to get passed your mental blocks to hear what he says

Jim
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Salutations,
I don’t have mental blocks. Her quote was accurate.
May we find unity for God and America.
in Christ’s love

Tweedlealice
 
Lily_Bernans said:
They should just leave wives and children out of it and stick to the issues. They’ve hitting below the belt, and voters don’t like that. They cause people to lose respect for them when they do that. I respect the way Bernie Sanders has conducted himself.
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If there’s one thing I’ve learned in my 77 years is that family plays a huge part in those individuals who find themselves in the Oval Office, or waiting patiently in the Executive Office Building.

Bess played a big role in Harry’s life
We could’ve learned a whole lot more about FDR if we’d paid attention to Eleanor
Jackie was chic and set a tone for Camelot - in spite of JFKs little midnight trysts
Betty and her problems showed us the strength of Gerald.
In spite of his out roughness, Pat saw something she deeply cared about in Tricky Dick
We should’ve seen LBJ coming if we’d heeded what’s her name.

I could go on but the one thing that impresses me most is how none of Trump’s exes have anything negative to say about him. And his children are all strong, well-educated, and hard-working individuals that say something about the man their father is.

The worst mistake we can make is ignoring the “other half” in ALL of our politicians.
 
Peter_J said:
When the United States proudly elected and reelected Barack Obama, we took a positive giant-step in our evolution as a nation. Bolstered by the promise inherent in our progress, I believed, along with many others, in our ability to continue moving forward.

But, apparently, we are instead degenerating. We are dragging our knuckles and stooping to the shameful level of potentially electing Donald Trump: a serial liar, racist, narcissist, buffoon — with no experience whatsoever in public office.

Those are the first two paragraphs of Donald Trump’s Followers: A Blind Rebellion.

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I have to say Wow.

While I read the first paragraph I briefly entertained the hope that the propaganda about how electing Obama twice meant a “positive giant-step in our evolution as a nation” was, if not flat-out sarcasm, at least something the author planned to mitigate in the rest of the article.

That hope radically dimmed as I read paragraph after paragraph that made the GOP out to be savages unfit to share this land with the Democratic Party. Not to mention how he completely ignores the incredible amount of demagoguery that *Obama *has engaged in (and continues to engage in).

My question is: Is that the way *most *Dems see us Republicans? If so – and considering that we haven’t even nominated Trump, yet – then we’d better be prepared for an enormous amount of the same if and when the Clinton/Trump duopoly becomes a reality. :ouch:
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I’m a registered Democrat because I must be a party member to vote in my state’s closed primary and between the 2 major parties, the Democratic Party comes the closest to my views. I don’t always agree with Democrats. Truthfully before Obama, my choice in a Presidential primary almost always lost and it appears this will be the case again. But still honesty I confess it’s hard for me to think of a single issue off the top of my head on which I agree with today’s Republican Party.

That said, no, Peter, I do not think you (Republicans in general) have primitive brain functions or are unfit to share this land with us. We simply disagree politically and on issues. What I do think though is some of the indignation (or anger and hate it sometimes seems to me) shown by many Republicans (not necessarily by you personally) towards President Obama has been misguided. From the very first night of his very first day in office of his 1st term, there were reports of Republicans huddled together, reportedly Paul Ryan was among them, plotting against him. I don’t think I have ever seen a President of the United States and even our First Lady (might be needing to come up with a new term for the President’s spouse next yr) vilified in the way they have been by the opposition throughout his Presidency from day one. I recall the talk of “death panels” and “Obama wants to kill your grandma” rhetoric. Signs depicting the twice duly elected President of the United States as Hitler. It just seems to me for over 7 yrs now if Obama is for it, Republicans are automatically against it. As Commander in Chief, he led us to Bin Laden. Today it was announced the #2 ISIS leader was killed. Things are not near where they should be economically nor in healthcare, but he doesn’t get enough credit imo for being there to help lead us out of the worst economic conditions since the Great Depression which he inherited from the last Republican President. Or for finally doing something about pre-existing conditions and healthcare for the millions of people who had none. Yet I will be the first to agree that still too many are without and for too many private insurance deductibles are entirely too high. It is one of the reasons I have backed Bernie Sanders in the primary. And to show support for some of his other messages.

Peace my brother and a most blessed Easter to you and to all here in our midsts. :grouphug:
 
lvcabbie said:
If there’s one thing I’ve learned in my 77 years is that family plays a huge part in those individuals who find themselves in the Oval Office, or waiting patiently in the Executive Office Building.

Bess played a big role in Harry’s life
We could’ve learned a whole lot more about FDR if we’d paid attention to Eleanor
Jackie was chic and set a tone for Camelot - in spite of JFKs little midnight trysts
Betty and her problems showed us the strength of Gerald.
In spite of his out roughness, Pat saw something she deeply cared about in Tricky Dick
We should’ve seen LBJ coming if we’d heeded what’s her name.

I could go on but the one thing that impresses me most is how none of Trump’s exes have anything negative to say about him. And his children are all strong, well-educated, and hard-working individuals that say something about the man their father is.

The worst mistake we can make is ignoring the “other half” in ALL of our politicians.
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I agree the family is important, but I still don’t think wives and children should be used in ads to attack another candidate. Perhaps I didn’t make my post clear, and if I didn’t, I apologize. I do agree with your post that they are very important. Michelle Obama has been a First Lady who’s stayed pretty much in the background, but I think the Obama’s strong marriage has helped Barack Obama deal successfully with all the unfair criticism that has been flung at him.

Thank you for your (name removed by moderator)ut. It’s greatly appreciated.
 
Sy_Noe said:
I’m a registered Democrat because I must be a party member to vote in my state’s closed primary and between the 2 major parties, the Democratic Party comes the closest to my views. I don’t always agree with Democrats. Truthfully before Obama, my choice in a Presidential primary almost always lost and it appears this will be the case again. But still honesty I confess it’s hard for me to think of a single issue off the top of my head on which I agree with today’s Republican Party.

That said, no, Peter, I do not think you (Republicans in general) have primitive brain functions or are unfit to share this land with us. We simply disagree politically and on issues. What I do think though is some of the indignation (or anger and hate it sometimes seems to me) shown by many Republicans (not necessarily by you personally) towards President Obama has been misguided. From the very first night of his very first day in office of his 1st term, there were reports of Republicans huddled together, reportedly Paul Ryan was among them, plotting against him. I don’t think I have ever seen a President of the United States and even our First Lady (might be needing to come up with a new term for the President’s spouse next yr) vilified in the way they have been by the opposition throughout his Presidency from day one. I recall the talk of “death panels” and “Obama wants to kill your grandma” rhetoric. Signs depicting the twice duly elected President of the United States as Hitler. It just seems to me for over 7 yrs now if Obama is for it, Republicans are automatically against it. As Commander in Chief, he led us to Bin Laden. Today it was announced the #2 ISIS leader was killed. Things are not near where they should be economically nor in healthcare, but he doesn’t get enough credit imo for being there to help lead us out of the worst economic conditions since the Great Depression which he inherited from the last Republican President. Or for finally doing something about pre-existing conditions and healthcare for the millions of people who had none. Yet I will be the first to agree that still too many are without and for too many private insurance deductibles are entirely too high. It is one of the reasons I have backed Bernie Sanders in the primary. And to show support for some of his other messages.

Peace my brother and a most blessed Easter to you and to all here in our midsts. :grouphug:
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Great post, Sy! 👍
 
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