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queenofheartscv said:
Boorish and occasionally vulgar, I’d agree with you. racism, misogyny, xenophobia, narcissism are not truthful descriptions of trump.

I have very strong opinions about president Obama but I’d never go so far as to say his supporters aren’t normal americans.
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I beg to differ. If you don’t think those are accurate descriptions - as evidenced by Trump’s own behavior - perhaps you need to look more closely. And I believe that those characteristics are not consistent with America and Americans.
 
I wonder how many people realize the amount of negative material is out there on Trump that the GOP has (for some reason) simply not tried to exploit. I realize Hillary has a lot of baggage, but its familiar baggage that is already “baked into the cake” as they say. There is some shocking Trump stuff that will be relatively new when it finally hits.

Just one example - I recently saw an interview of Trump from a few years ago in which he talked about his opinion of women. He bragged about how many women he had slept with, and even bragged about the fact that he could cheat on his women because most women like being treated badly. He said he only liked beautiful women, and was asked if he would stay with his wife if she were disfigured in an accident. His reply was that he might as long as her breasts weren’t damaged.

That was from a Howard Stern interview. And that doesn’t even get into his business dealings, just his personal life. You can bet that the Dems are stock piling stuff from his various business issues also.

This is going to be an ‘interesting’ campaign, that’s for sure.
 
queenofheartscv said:
Trust me, we want fairness and not our lives ruined. The worst that can happen is trump voters will vote every republican senator and representative who have conspired against trump out of office. After that life goes on. The republican party will probably die because many will never vote for them ever again. The heck with it! Both parties show themselves to be the same color so just let them have it! That’s a lot of trump voters not all.
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Would you answer a serious question? What is it that a Catholic Christian sees in Trump that makes him worthy of support? For the life of me, I don’t see a thing.
 
dixieagle said:
I beg to differ. If you don’t think those are accurate descriptions - as evidenced by Trump’s own behavior - perhaps you need to look more closely. And I believe that those characteristics are not consistent with America and Americans.
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We will not agree on this. He is not against mexicans or muslims. He is for law enforcement and national security. He is not racist nor his supporters. To keep using these labels as facts is very insulting.
 
TMC said:
I wonder how many people realize the amount of negative material is out there on Trump that the GOP has (for some reason) simply not tried to exploit. I realize Hillary has a lot of baggage, but its familiar baggage that is already “baked into the cake” as they say. There is some shocking Trump stuff that will be relatively new when it finally hits.

Just one example - I recently saw an interview of Trump from a few years ago in which he talked about his opinion of women. He bragged about how many women he had slept with, and even bragged about the fact that he could cheat on his women because most women like being treated badly. He said he only liked beautiful women, and was asked if he would stay with his wife if she were disfigured in an accident. His reply was that he might as long as her breasts weren’t damaged.

That was from a Howard Stern interview. And that doesn’t even get into his business dealings, just his personal life. You can bet that the Dems are stock piling stuff from his various business issues also.

This is going to be an ‘interesting’ campaign, that’s for sure.
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I’ve seen plenty of things of the type you mention. People voted for him anyway, and seem to like him all the more! Astonishing to me.
 
TMC said:
I wonder how many people realize the amount of negative material is out there on Trump that the GOP has (for some reason) simply not tried to exploit. I realize Hillary has a lot of baggage, but its familiar baggage that is already “baked into the cake” as they say. There is some shocking Trump stuff that will be relatively new when it finally hits.

Just one example - I recently saw an interview of Trump from a few years ago in which he talked about his opinion of women. He bragged about how many women he had slept with, and even bragged about the fact that he could cheat on his women because most women like being treated badly. He said he only liked beautiful women, and was asked if he would stay with his wife if she were disfigured in an accident. His reply was that he might as long as her breasts weren’t damaged.

That was from a Howard Stern interview. And that doesn’t even get into his business dealings, just his personal life. You can bet that the Dems are stock piling stuff from his various business issues also.

This is going to be an ‘interesting’ campaign, that’s for sure.
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The Dems stand for a slaughter in the US: especially Obama and Hillary and usually affecting minorities disproportionately.
 
dixieagle said:
I’ve seen plenty of things of the type you mention. People voted for him anyway, and seem to like him all the more! Astonishing to me.
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No, people don’t like him more because of these embarrassing episodes. We do, however, realize people go to bars and tell foolhardy jokes especially when they are young.

I always go back to the example of David who committed the sins of adultery and murderer. God can use all sorts of people for his purposes. We are not electing a secular pope.
 
queenofheartscv said:
No, people don’t like him more because of these embarrassing episodes. We do, however, realize people go to bars and tell foolhardy jokes especially when they are young.

I always go back to the example of David who committed the sins of adultery and murderer. God can use all sorts of people for his purposes. We are not electing a secular pope.
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So you think that these misogynistic statements by Donald Trump were just “youthful indiscretions” and now he’s different? :rolleyes:
 
J_Peterson said:
I’m actually worried about what will happen when Trump is out of the political picture. Right now they feel empowered because they have Trump on their side. Once he’s no longer in the running they will lose that power and I’m worried they will turn to guns to retrieve the power again.
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No, I don’t think they will use guns.
But the climate has changed. The genie is out of the bottle. Will they find someone worse than Trump? Maybe. Will they feel empowered on a* local level *to push the culture further into the kinds of slogans they cheer Trump on? More likely.
 
Here’s something interesting in today’s Guardian:
Countries with powerful and positive reputations, just like corporations with powerful brands, always trade at a premium. They sell more products at higher prices; their citizens find it easier to get good jobs abroad; they attract more tourists and investors and migrant workers. America has such a brand – and Trump risks damaging it.
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Research shows that the United States is largely seen as a benign force in the international community – but this is a fact that will almost certainly change if Trump were president. America would find its ability to trade and negotiate effectively around the world severely compromised. Countries with weak or negative images – whether deserved or not – trade at a discount: everything they try to do on the international stage is more difficult and more expensive.
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A large problem with Trump is that he doesn’t view America as a world leader, working hard to tackle the common challenges facing the whole of humanity. His is an America hell-bent on pursuing its own interests. And if those interests happen not to coincide with those of the rest of humanity, so much the worse for the rest of humanity.
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theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/17/donald-trump-america-reputation
 
Path_Finder said:
The Dems stand for a slaughter in the US: especially Obama and Hillary and usually affecting minorities disproportionately.
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So the answer is to vote for someone who has absolutely no commitment to the pro-life cause, praises and donates money to PP, and who is also on the record as a serial adulterer and misogynist?? How is that a good thing?
 
Thorolfr said:
So you think that these misogynistic statements by Donald Trump were just “youthful indiscretions” and now he’s different? :rolleyes:
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Yeah, youthful mistakes he made in his early 60s. He’s grown up so much since then.
 
TMC said:
So the answer is to vote for someone who has absolutely no commitment to the pro-life cause, praises and donates money to PP, and who is also on the record as a serial adulterer and misogynist?? How is that a good thing?
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He supports the non-abortion activities of PP.
 
Tomdstone said:
He supports the non-abortion activities of PP.
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How did he parse that out when he gave them money? And why has he consistently described himself as strongly pro-choice, until he decided to run as a Republican? It really strains credulity to take him at his word that he has changed his view on abortion after 60+ years of strongly supporting it.

Look, anyone who looks through my posts on this forum will see that abortion is not my issue. But it appears to be the ONLY issue for a number of people who post here. How those people could support Trump is beyond me. He is simply not pro-life in any sense of the word. If he is the nominee, the issue is effectively off the table. Given his recent praise of PP, I would not be surprised if he “pivots” back to a moderate stance for the general.
 
queenofheartscv said:
Do you know how many Chinese civilians were brutally killed by Japan and how many more they would kill if not stopped? From what I understand the Japanese army refused to surrender unless utterly debilitated. They would fight until their breath and commit suicide before thinking about surrender. They were also using their own civilian life as last-resort defense.
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That is the reasoning which is now in place. So the use of the atomic bomb and killing of thousands or perhaps even millions of innocent children and forcing them to live horribly painful lives without the use of a leg or an eye in order to promote peace is supposedly justified. If it is all right for the US to use the atomic bomb, then others may demand their right to use it also.
Please read:
2314 “Every act of war directed to the indiscriminate destruction of whole cities or vast areas with their inhabitants is a crime against God and man, which merits firm and unequivocal condemnation.”
109 A danger of modern warfare is that it provides the opportunity to those who possess modern scientific weapons especially atomic, biological, or chemical weapons - to commit such crimes.

As far as Trump goes, he indicated that he is ready to work with Putin to solve various issues peacefully, such as the war in Ukraine. Kasich offers to throw more and more weapons into Ukraine. I like the solution of Trump more than that of Kasich.
 
Tomdstone said:
So you don’t trust what he says. Do you trust any politician?
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It would probably be difficult for any politician to get elected if they said that they really believe about all the issues. In Trump’s case, if he had run as a pro-choice Republican, would he have had a chance of getting the nomination? Probably not.
 
People like the honesty, what you see is what you get and who knows what is just kidding around, braggadocio as they say.
 
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