Trump Thread

[SuperLuigi]

Assuming you are right about who Trump is, i.e., that he is evil or so immoral that he is not fit to be president.

Ted Cruz is more viable option because he has a pretty consistent record on core principles and has a better chance of winning.

 

[queenofheartscv]

Police need to start arresting and bringing charges against these anti-Trump protesters who are using violence and intimidation tactics. The numbers arrested in Chicago were ridiculously low.

It’s amazing the protesters in Arizona are allowed to block the road, continue to walk on the road possibly moving to the next juncture where cars are moving freely.

 

[SuperLuigi]

It’s amazing the protesters in Arizona are allowed to block the road, continue to walk on the road possibly moving to the next juncture where cars are moving freely.

Sounds like a lack of crowd control by local authorities.

People do not have a right to spontaneously disrupt traffic.

 

[josie_L]

Ted Cruz is more viable option because he has a pretty consistent record on core principles and has a better chance of winning.

I have nothing against Ted Cruz, I just don’t understand why so many are willing to vilify Trump with so little evidence. Am I missing something???

p.s. Just curious, but do you think that Ted Cruz would not be attacked by the media with the same fervour, if perchance Trump were out of the running?

I know there are some who are calling him fascist too.

 

[FollowChrist34]

None are disputing the masses are no more than unpaid social justice warriors heeding the call to agitate. But it’s all being orchestrated by the left, it’s not a conspiracy orchestrated by Trump. These agitators are pushing to shut down free speech, not present an alternative narrative to Trump.

Maybe I’ll see you in Seattle, just don’t throw rocks at me

You’re on! And please don’t punch me in the face and then tell CNN that perhaps I should have been killed. Oh and I am voting for Cruz.

 

[Seamus_L]

It’s time for a crackdown on Facebook, which is now being used to organize violent protests. If the police cannot control anti=Trump demonstrators in Utah and Arizona, what happens when the Trump campaign comes to New York, Connecticut, and Delaware next month ?

 

[sallybutler]

Ted Cruz is more viable option because he has a pretty consistent record on core principles and has a better chance of winning.

Maybe I am being illogical, but if Cruz has a better chance of winning, why isn’t he winning now? I feel the same way about Sanders.

 

[FollowChrist34]

It’s time for a crackdown on Facebook, which is now being used to organize violent protests. If the police cannot control anti=Trump demonstrators in Utah and Arizona, what happens when the Trump campaign comes to New York, Connecticut, and Delaware next month ?

Darn that free speech…

George Wallace is starting to look a lot like Mahatma Gandhi.

 

[dixieagle]

Maybe I am being illogical, but if Cruz has a better chance of winning, why isn’t he winning now? I feel the same way about Sanders.

You’re right about Cruz; he is too far right to succeed in a general election; I would, however, hold my nose and vote for him against Hillary.

 

[dixieagle]

All I can say is, the more you use such words as evil, immoral, fascist, racist to vilify trump, the more his numbers will go up.

The reason for that you can figure out gradually.

And that’s one of the reasons this is such a scary election cycle; his die-hard supporters will defend him no matter how outrageous his behavior. It makes no sense, except to support the idea that reason has been sacrificed at the altar of anger.

 

[Lily_Bernans]

The vilification of Trump is in and of itself un-Christian (not saying the guy is perfect).

I agree that no one should say or write anything untrue about any presidential candidate or president, and that includes Trump. But a discussion of the issues will have to include Trump’s weak points as well as his strong. However, I agree that no one should make up weak points or engage in name calling.

I will not vote for him under any conditions because I do not believe he has the experience or the temperament for a president.

 

[queenofheartscv]

And that’s one of the reasons this is such a scary election cycle; his die-hard supporters will defend him no matter how outrageous his behavior. It makes no sense, except to support the idea that reason has been sacrificed at the altar of anger.

No it’s not his die-hard fans. It’s those sitting on the fence who will see through outrageous false accusations and labeling of trump that he is not the one to fear.

If it’s only die-hard fans, his numbers would stay the same instead of growing.

So I actually take delight in people denigrating trump and his followers. It helps our cause. It helps those undecided to see how vicious the enemy of trump is.

Trump is the strongest when he is attacked most viciously. That has been the theme of his campaign.

 

[Lily_Bernans]

Maybe I am being illogical, but if Cruz has a better chance of winning, why isn’t he winning now? I feel the same way about Sanders.

They don’t have a better chance of winning in the general. Some reporters have said they do, and they are entitled to their opinion, but in reality Cruz, especially, stands little chance against Hillary Clinton. Cruz will probably win Utah, though. Mormons don’t care for Trump, and they do like Cruz. Trump will probably take Arizona. This is making things look more and more like a contested convention.

 

[Path_Finder]

And that’s one of the reasons this is such a scary election cycle; his die-hard supporters will defend him no matter how outrageous his behavior. It makes no sense, except to support the idea that reason has been sacrificed at the altar of anger.

I would probably vote for him in an election but not in primaries, at the same time, I consider voting for the Democratic platform to make one fall into having committed a grave offense as defined by one’s faith.

 

[queenofheartscv]

Sounds like a lack of crowd control by local authorities.

People do not have a right to spontaneously disrupt traffic.

Three arrests have been made for blocking the road.

 

[Lily_Bernans]

And that’s one of the reasons this is such a scary election cycle; his die-hard supporters will defend him no matter how outrageous his behavior. It makes no sense, except to support the idea that reason has been sacrificed at the altar of anger.

The Democrats like it, too, since they’d rather run against Trump.

 

[Peter_J]

It’s funny and ironic how people here on CAF got upset when the Pope had stated that Trump was not a Christian. People yelled bloody murder, stating how the Pope should not get involved in our country’s business. Others even defended trump.

But Trump has questioned Carson and his faith, Romney too. It’s just ironic how these individuals don’t say enough Trump you might sound like your bringing change, but your not going to do any change.

People on CAF? Surely you jest!

You should of read people’s post to the thread pope states Trump is not a Christian.

Oh, I wasn’t being entirely serious there. Heck, in my time on CAF I’ve seen quite a lot of posts – some from posters who embrace the label “traditionalist Catholic” and some from posters who eschew it – that are (IMO anyhow) disrespectful toward the Vatican in particular and the hierarchy in general.

On a side note, I don’t think it’s entirely fair to say that Pope Francis said DJT is not a Christian. He was more nuanced than that.

And on a side side note, with the incredible volume of Trump posts that I’ve seen in this forum’s political discourse, I wonder why there has been so little response to nationalreview.com/article/432437/donald-trump-catholic-opposition-statement ? Possibly because there isn’t a good response?

 

[queenofheartscv]

Oh, I wasn’t being entirely serious there. Heck, in my time on CAF I’ve seen quite a lot of posts – some from posters who embrace the label “traditionalist Catholic” and some from posters who eschew it – that are (IMO anyhow) disrespectful toward the Vatican in particular and the hierarchy in general.

On a side note, I don’t think it’s entirely fair to say that Pope Francis said DJT is not a Christian. He was more nuanced than that.

And on a side side note, with the incredible volume of Trump posts that I’ve seen in this forum’s political discourse, I wonder why there has been so little response to nationalreview.com/article/432437/donald-trump-catholic-opposition-statement ? Possibly because there isn’t a good response?

No, because that is old news. It’s also no use to argue sometimes especially when it comes down to personal opinion.

 

[josie_L]

I agree that no one should say or write anything untrue about any presidential candidate or president, and that includes Trump. But a discussion of the issues will have to include Trump’s weak points as well as his strong. However, I agree that no one should make up weak points or engage in name calling.

I will not vote for him under any conditions because I do not believe he has the experience or the temperament for a president.

Well said.

 

[FollowChrist34]

And that’s one of the reasons this is such a scary election cycle; his die-hard supporters will defend him no matter how outrageous his behavior. It makes no sense, except to support the idea that reason has been sacrificed at the altar of anger.

I agree. I would not be surprised to see civilian violence and social unrest become more commonplace in the US, such as you see in many (most?) other parts of the world. There is also a strong parallel with the 60s - the civil rights movement in the South (which I sympathize with). I do not sympathize with the Vietnam or other protests though that came later. I think the left became corrupt and intoxicated by its own destructive power, a real loss of direction. Martin Luther King wanted peaceful protest, against very real intolerance, racism, social injustice. I do it is important to safeguard the civil liberties and justice that we fought for in the 60s; that is keeping with what America is about, for all of us. I oppose the demagoguery that both Obama and Trump represent. In sum, I never thought I would see the (angel side) 60s come around again, and in my lifetime. Here goes, folks, it’s time to rumble …my dad would be so proud of me.