Can you point out where she states that she’s talking about “strongly patricarchal religions”? I’ve listened to the speech, but I must have missed the statement about that which would somehow justify her assertion that religious beliefs must change to accept “access to reproductive healthcare”.I know! Every Republican takes Hillary’s comment on religion out of context. She wasn’t talking about abortion; she was talking about strongly patriarchal religions like Islam.
How are we taking Trump’s statement out of context?
I concede Cruz is capitalizing on the bad timing of Trump’s US reduce NATO funding/commitment suggestion and the Brussels terrorist attack. But all of the candidates are coming out strong on the anti-terrorism remarks and it is frankly equally disingenuous to see this desperate backpedaling, covering Trump’s back here. It is quite clear, based on the NATO comment, that he has not developed any sort of informed, in depth policy about how to deal with foreign policy in Europe or anywhere else for that matter. And Cruz is off base for highlighting this weakness, at a time like this? Goodness gracious.Of course Cruz, clever politician that he is, would capitalize on this tragic event, knowing that most people are not likely to examine the nuances of what a rival candidate, in this case Trump, may be proposing, particularly during the immediate aftermath of a terrorist attack. It seems that politics does trump all else.
To further analyze what Trump said:I know! Every Republican takes Hillary’s comment on religion out of context. She wasn’t talking about abortion; she was talking about strongly patriarchal religions like Islam.
How are we taking Trump’s statement out of context?
No, that was not the point. However, others outside of the United States have the equal right to human dignity. Broad generalizations and caricaturization is an offense against human dignity. We should not refer to others in a way that we do not want to be referred to. If one were to say, “They shouldn’t be here,” is a statement on illegal immigration. Saying, “They’re rapists and some, I assume, are good people,” is s statement against human dignity.Sounds like an argument against the sovereignty of our nation i,e, Mexicans have as much right to be in a part of the US as American citizens do.
It was just Hillary, and are you a member of a strongly patriarchal religion in which women have no rights because that’s what she meant.She said religious beliefs have to be changed. Somehow I don’t like the idea of Hillary and Bill determining which of my religious beliefs have to be changed.
I just want to point out that trump is not a candidate that depends on his supporters to do desperate backpedaling on his behalf. he’s the one out there working hard to win; he is the one fighting and leading the issues; he is the one that defends his reputation and his positions. I’m very happy to have a candidate capable of doing what he does.I concede Cruz is capitalizing on the bad timing of Trump’s US reduce NATO funding/commitment suggestion and the Brussels terrorist attack. But all of the candidates are coming out strong on the anti-terrorism remarks and it is frankly equally disingenuous to see **this desperate backpedaling, covering Trump’s back here. **It is quite clear, based on the NATO comment, that he has not developed any sort of informed, in depth policy about how to deal with foreign policy in Europe or anywhere else for that matter. And Cruz is off base for highlighting this weakness, at a time like this? Goodness gracious.
You are saying it’s wrong to call illegal rapists and criminals for what they are and what they do?No, that was not the point. However, others outside of the United States have the equal right to human dignity. Broad generalizations and caricaturization is an offense against human dignity. We should not refer to others in a way that we do not want to be referred to. If one were to say, “They shouldn’t be here,” is a statement on illegal immigration. Saying, “They’re rapists and some, I assume, are good people,” is s statement against human dignity.
Yes, we need to infer that he is referring to people here illegally, in context, but that does no justify such rhetoric. It plays to the worst of our inhumanity that deals with people as if they weren’t the same as us, our equals. When we arrest, deport, imprison, or take any other action against another person, we must do so while respecting their equal human dignity.
I linked to it pages ago. Other posters have read it and listened to the audio and realize she is talking about the suppression of women. Not once does she mention abortion.Can you point out where she states that she’s talking about “strongly patricarchal religions”? I’ve listened to the speech, but I must have missed the statement about that which would somehow justify her assertion that religious beliefs must change to accept “access to reproductive healthcare”.
We’re saying it’s wrong to call someone a rapist when they haven’t been convicted or even accused of rape. It’s wrong to generalize. I am French and lived for many years in France. The feeling there is that Americans, in general, are gauche, pig farming, clodhoppers. Do you think it’s right that some of the French say that about all Americans?You are saying it’s wrong to call illegal rapists and criminals for what they are and what they do?
Who among the general group of “Mexicans” he spoke about had been accused or convicted of rape?You are saying it’s wrong to call illegal rapists and criminals for what they are and what they do?
He didn’t generalize. he said, some are probably good people. Why do you totally discount that?We’re saying it’s wrong to call someone a rapist when they haven’t been convicted or even accused of rape. It’s wrong to generalize. I am French and lived for many years in France. The feeling there is that Americans, in general, are gauche, pig farming, clodhoppers. Do you think it’s right that some of the French say that about all Americans?
No.You are saying it’s wrong to call illegal rapists and criminals for what they are and what they do?
I did not see mention of patriarchal religions in her speech, but she did say that “Far too many women are denied access to reproductive health care” What do you suppose she meant by that?It was just Hillary, and are you a member of a strongly patriarchal religion in which women have no rights because that’s what she meant.
You now feel how others feel who want abortion to remain legal because it’s not against their religious beliefs.
How does Trump know the character and background of the Mexicans coming into this country? How do the border guards, who usually don’t even bother to glance at a passport? When I worked in Zuerich, I was required to travel a lot. I’ve been to about 110 countries and usually I was just waved through, no one even bothered to look at my passport. When they did, they gave it a cursory glance and slid it back to me, with a few exceptions, mostly in the Middle East. So I speak from experience.To further analyze what Trump said:
The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else’s problems.
Thank you. It’s true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They’re sending us not the right people.
It’s coming from more than Mexico. It’s coming from all over South and Latin America, and it’s coming probably— probably— from the Middle East. **But we don’t know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don’t know what’s happening. **And it’s got to stop and it’s got to stop fast.
time.com/3923128/donald-trump-announcement-speech/
If you look at all the bolded parts, it’s clear that Trump is talking about Mexican government not wanting to deal with their own problems and allowing people to sneak in the US as illegal immigrants; hence the mention of border guards, that we don’t know what’s going on or who is coming in because we have no control of the process.
It’s clear he’s talking about illegals not legal immigrants.
Coming from a minority majority state, I have no doubt that the racism is really two sided; we do not want to devolve into some immoral state per supporting the Democratic agenda.Sounds like an argument against the sovereignty of our nation i,e, Mexicans have as much right to be in a part of the US as American citizens do.
Even that’s generalization, it’s just good generalization.He didn’t generalize. he said, some are probably good people. Why do you totally discount that?
The border guards know they are not allowed to do their job. There are news articles about this. There is data about illegal convicts being released again and again instead of being deported. And those who have been deported coming back again and again. Sanctuary city ring a bell? There are drugs pouring through the border reporters could witness and border agents know about.How does Trump know the character and background of the Mexicans coming into this country? How do the border guards, who usually don’t even bother to glance at a passport? When I worked in Zuerich, I was required to travel a lot. I’ve been to about 110 countries and usually I was just waved through, no one even bothered to look at my passport. When they did, they gave it a cursory glance and slid it back to me, with a few exceptions, mostly in the Middle East. So I speak from experience.
How would Trump, or the border guards, know the character of the Mexicans coming into the US? I’ve been to Mexico many times. They didn’t even look at my passport when I came back. How would anyone know someone’s background and character even if he did look at the passport. It does not contain a background check.
Since when has “access to reproductive healthcare” not meant abortion in a speech by a Democrat?I linked to it pages ago. Other posters have read it and listened to the audio and realize she is talking about the suppression of women. Not once does she mention abortion.
Tell that to the families who have suffered at the hands of illegals.Even that’s generalization, it’s just good generalization.
He doesn’t know a thing about their character and neither do the border guards.
Exactly what she said. Abortion is not “reproductive health care.” Hillary has a very high IQ. I’m sure she knows that. Go read the speech or listen to it.I did not see mention of patriarchal religions in her speech, but she did say that “Far too many women are denied access to reproductive health care” What do you suppose she meant by that?