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cnn.com/2016/03/29/politics/trump-campaign-manager-charged-with-simple-battery/index.html
(CNN)Donald Trump’s campaign manager Corey Lewandowski was arrested and charged in Jupiter, Florida, with simple battery of former Breitbart reporter Michelle Fields, according to police.
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The Jupiter Police Department told CNN that Lewandowski was arrested Tuesday morning after turning himself in on the misdemeanor charge of simple battery.
They said Lewandowski has been released and his initial court appearance is scheduled for May 4. The department also released new video that shows the alleged incident from an overhead angle.
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This is how Trump treats his friends.
 
Little_Sheep said:
Sure, but this year doesn’t feel a thing like 2008. At this point, HRC is the presumptive nominee. Bernie’s great, but he can’t secure the nomination.

My point was not that Hillary will win (though I believe she will); it was that the Republicans have damaged themselves so thoroughly that they are incapable of winning this election.
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One caveat here - I am amazed at the animosity of some Sanders supporters to Hillary. Only around 50% of them believe that Hillary will be the nominee and say that they will definitely vote for her. (I don’t say this to be antagonistic; I could very well prefer Hillary to Trump - not on social issues, but pretty much everything else; and I don’t trust Trump on social issues anyway) My point is Hillary is not sitting as pretty as Dems like to let on. Granted, she is likely to win the nomination - but the general could get very interesting if the Susan Sarandon ‘revolution’ pro Trump thing catches on. The left does have its radical loopy dark side too, no question, and they are growing. To put it simply, given above, the GOP nominee matters - it has to be someone who can actually coherently represent and govern the country…just in case Hillary cannot coalesce her base. :o
 
Ridgerunner said:
Obviously, I did not express myself clearly. Let me try again, and perhaps more directly.

An electorate that is capable of spurning its clear favorite (Hillary) in favor of a candidate who comes from nowhere, has accomplished nothing, and has breathtakingly questionable ideological antecedents, (Obama) is capable of anything.
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It’s true that you can never say never in politics.
 
All the media drama that has been a product of the last plus years needs to have a spotlight shining on all of it. Distort, exaggerate and selfies are so tiresome. The latest empowered woman storming forward to encounter Trump, warned twice by the Secret Service to stay back, decided to cry victim after being denied her 5 min of fame. She went off and decided to make something out of it - it took her three days to report her incident to the police. Now the media besties are analyzing every angle of security film like its
“hanging chad”!

No, IMO, there is no big deal to this and it certainly shouldn’t be flamed to the point of holding a man who had no intention of being her perpetrator, loosing his career job. She lost her’s and its my suggestion that her superiors saw through her play and wanted no part of it.
 
FollowChrist34 said:
One caveat here - I am amazed at the animosity of some Sanders supporters to Hillary. Only around 50% of them believe that Hillary will be the nominee and say that they will definitely vote for her. (I don’t say this to be antagonistic; I could very well prefer Hillary to Trump - not on social issues, but pretty much everything else; and I don’t trust Trump on social issues anyway) My point is Hillary is not sitting as pretty as Dems like to let on. Granted, she is likely to win the nomination - but the general could get very interesting if the Susan Sarandon ‘revolution’ pro Trump thing catches on. The left does have its radical loopy dark side too, no question, and they are growing. To put it simply, given above, the GOP nominee matters - it has to be someone who can actually coherently represent and govern the country…just in case Hillary cannot coalesce her base. :o
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I agree with you that Sanders supporters on the internet are over the top in their criticism of Hillary.I rarely run into this with real life Sanders supporters, but online - yes!

And I know lots of them say they won’t support her. Hillary supporters said the same thing in 2008 as it became clear that Obama was going to win.

The thing is, the Democrats just aren’t fractured. I agree that there are some extremists, but not enough to fret about. Sure, the supporters who are now realizing that their candidate is not going to be the nominee are spouting off. That’s normal. Most of the Sanders supporters will vote for Hillary in November. Some won’t, of course, but not enough to matter.

I’ll be happy to eat crow if Sanders’ folks prove me wrong, but Hillary’s reach is far and wide and deep and loyal. Is she going to shake things up like the Sanders people say they want? Nope, she’s going to govern a lot like Obama. When it comes down to a choice between that, Trump or Cruz, I feel pretty certain people will choose that.
 
Little_Sheep said:
I agree with you that Sanders supporters on the internet are over the top in their criticism of Hillary.I rarely run into this with real life Sanders supporters, but online - yes!

And I know lots of them say they won’t support her. Hillary supporters said the same thing in 2008 as it became clear that Obama was going to win.

The thing is, the Democrats just aren’t fractured. I agree that there are some extremists, but not enough to fret about. Sure, the supporters who are now realizing that their candidate is not going to be the nominee are spouting off. That’s normal. Most of the Sanders supporters will vote for Hillary in November. Some won’t, of course, but not enough to matter.

I’ll be happy to eat crow if Sanders’ folks prove me wrong, but Hillary’s reach is far and wide and deep and loyal. Is she going to shake things up like the Sanders people say they want? Nope, she’s going to govern a lot like Obama. When it comes down to a choice between that, Trump or Cruz, I feel pretty certain people will choose that.
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You don’t live in Seattle, or the whole West for that matter. 😉 Last Saturday (Democrat caucus) I parked my car next to Bernie folks at the grocery store - I actually joked with them as I was getting out of the car that I still needed to put up my Ted Cruz stuff. They loved it (after some initial frostiness) - I think they thought I was joking. Hillary came and campaigned in Washington State - so did Bill. She got like 30% of the vote. The young are the ones you need to worry about.
 
CNN’s Anderson was very annoying by talking over everything Trump was trying to say; then he would interpret it and partially restate/distort what was just said! What an effort to put up with that sort of interview. Cruz takes so long to say something - pausing in between his sentences, that Anderson was forced to wait. That was very dull.

The important statement Trump made IMO was, he reaffirmed very clearly that in the long ago past, he was pro-choice (not even understanding what pro-choice included) and that he is definitely pro-LIFE as he has evolved. That takes any lingering doubt off the table!
 
FollowChrist34 said:
You don’t live in Seattle, or the whole West for that matter. 😉 Last Saturday (Democrat caucus) I parked my car next to Bernie folks at the grocery store - I actually joked with them as I was getting out of the car that I still needed to put up my Ted Cruz stuff. They loved it (after some initial frostiness) - I think they thought I was joking. Hillary came and campaigned in Washington State - so did Bill. She got like 30% of the vote. The young are the ones you need to worry about.
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Oh absolutely, he does great in the West and I have friends out there who are big supporters! Again, he just doesn’t have the depth and breadth of support that Hillary does across the country!
 
Ridgerunner said:
Obviously, I did not express myself clearly. Let me try again, and perhaps more directly.

An electorate that is capable of spurning its clear favorite (Hillary) in favor of a candidate who comes from nowhere, has accomplished nothing, and has breathtakingly questionable ideological antecedents, (Obama) is capable of anything.
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Not that I agree at all about Obama coming from nowhere. I actually first learned about him when he made the keynote address to the Democratic convention in 2004 and I sat on my sofa thinking to myself, this man is going to be our first black President.

When I watched Trump on Celebrity Apprentice, I never thought this man is going to be our first Reality TV star President.

But aww… Trump hasn’t come from nowhere either and I would guess the Democrats have plenty of video of him, including from this primary season, ready to roll.
 
Little_Sheep said:
I agree with you that Sanders supporters on the internet are over the top in their criticism of Hillary.I rarely run into this with real life Sanders supporters, but online - yes!

And I know lots of them say they won’t support her. Hillary supporters said the same thing in 2008 as it became clear that Obama was going to win.

The thing is, the Democrats just aren’t fractured. I agree that there are some extremists, but not enough to fret about. Sure, the supporters who are now realizing that their candidate is not going to be the nominee are spouting off. That’s normal. Most of the Sanders supporters will vote for Hillary in November. Some won’t, of course, but not enough to matter.

I’ll be happy to eat crow if Sanders’ folks prove me wrong, but Hillary’s reach is far and wide and deep and loyal. Is she going to shake things up like the Sanders people say they want? Nope, she’s going to govern a lot like Obama. When it comes down to a choice between that, Trump or Cruz, I feel pretty certain people will choose that.
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Uhhh… Little Sheep… you have run into at least 2 online, myself and Lily Bernans, who will support her. 👍

Seriously, I agree with you. I even heard someone the other day say he wanted to make it clear that he supports Bernie and Hillary. That he will vote for whichever wins. Because even if he ended up thinking he would be voting for the proverbial “lesser of 2 evils”, the phrase which many people on both sides have used over the years, he said the lesser of 2 is still the one less “evil”.

Let me be perfectly clear. I do not at all deem Hillary as evil. But you get my drift I believe as to what he was saying.
 
queenofheartscv said:
wnd.com/2016/03/lewandowski-prosecutor-outed-as-hillary-supporter/

LEWANDOWSKI PROSECUTOR OUTED AS HILLARY SUPPORTER
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Only WND would use the word “outed”, as if it matters. Half of the politicians in office now are Democrats. This is scarcely news, as is the idea that these charges are political. It is a stupid law, but one would thing that Trump’s staff would be more careful about not giving a reason for a charge to be filed.

Still, I wonder if it is the prosecuter that is being politically motivate or Fields (the one touched). It may be that Fields pressed charges, in which case the prosecutor was just doing his job. In any case, I look for Lewandoski to be exhonerated on this charge.
 
Peter_J said:
Hmmm, kind of a nonsequitur since what you quoted didn’t even mention Trump.
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I guess you would have to no the full story, which I expected many here would have by now.
There was an entire thread on it, after all, before all things Trump were amalgamated into this thread.
 
Songcatcher said:
The Inept Thing Donald Trump Said About Women Who Have Abortions is Making Pro-Lifers Cringe
lifenews.com/2016/03/30/the-inept-thing-donald-trump-said-about-women-who-have-abortions-is-making-pro-lifers-cringe/
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The precise conversation on abortion has taken place on this very forum on the hillary thread, I think.

The question put to trump is, if abortions are banned, should women who have abortions be punished?

Trump said, some people say they probably should, if abortion is banned.

If something is illegal and people do it anyway, they can’t be punished?

What exactly is cringe worthy?
 
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